maybe you guys can help me out...you see i never got this story, it's from "Cinema Paradiso". This guy likes/loves this certain girl, to prove himself ,the girl makes the guy wait outside her doorstep for 100 days. sure enough the guy waits, through Chrismastime and everything but on the 99th day, he stands up, gathers himself, and walks away...what is the lesson? i don't get it.

"Why did he leave? The soldier doubtlessly loved her very much. It really wasn't a test for him, but for her. After ninety days he cries because if she loves him, she would not be able to see him in such state. He cries because she doesn't love him still. He leaves, because he knows that she doesn't love him, and he wants to free her."

quoted from: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~suyoungl/cinema.html

[ September 19, 2002: Message edited by: BlueTear ]

ooohh.. nice one!

umm...i still don't understand...pardon the ignorance....

sa palagay ko lang...

gusto nung guy na malaman nung girl na kaya niya... pero parang tinapon niya balik yung tanong sa babae by leaving on the 99th day...

kasi by daring the guy to saty for 100 days, parang tinanong nung girl "are you willing to swallow your pride and sacrifice for me by waiting for 100 days?" so by leaving on the 99th day, na-prove niya na kaya niya nga tapos binalik niya sa girl ang tanong "can you swallow your pride and sacrifice for me by forgiving me for leaving on the 99th day?"

labo ba? basta, ma-gets mo rin yan... good luck!

*applauds Bluetear and ria jose*

:cool:

wla ko msbe! saludo!!

Actually the guy left on the 99th day because he knew it wasn't worth his time or effort. Nobody and I mean nobody would go through 99 days of bullshit waiting, not even knowing for sure what was going to happen on the 100th day. All she said was "wait"; she didn't explicitly say "I shall be yours after 100 days of waiting." And what kind of sick demented mind would do that to a fellow human being anyway? Reminds me a lot of the Popes in medieval times, making Christian kings slodge through the snow for 40 days for defying them or be excommunicated and lose their thrones, and other such bullshit punishment. Girl ever tells you to wait 100 days on her, WALK THE HELL AWAY! She is seriously psycho or simply so full of herself she's liable to explode. That the guy even waited 99 days makes him a galactically way-out-there loser.

I can't believe this thing is way back in this Forum now.

Hey, that sounds like a good idea for a play. Can you guys give me a bigger picture of what the story's all about? I'm trying to write a play.

If it's alright with anyone of you.

The guy basically left on the 99th day because he realized that if the girl really loved him, she wouldn't make him wait that long... That's the gist of the whole story.

Because if you look at it from a certain perspective, there love was just one-sided. The girl imposed conditions on the guy and asked him to make a sacrifice. The guy did, but in the hopes that the girl would see how far he was willing to prove his love for her, and appreciate the gesture for what it is, an act of love, and ultimately accept his gift and spare him the indignity of 100 days waiting with a question like love looming over his head. It was as much a test for the girl as it was for the guy. Guy realizes the girl does not feel for him the same way he feels for her, because if she really loved the guy, she would have come out and said something by now.

But why wait until the 99th day? Why not leave on the 10th, or the 50th or the 90th? It seems he didn't really think much of this girl after all. All he had to do was tough it our for one more day and yet he couldn't do it, or chose not to do it. One more day and everything would've been well worth it.

So I guess this brings us to another good question: What would you be willing to do to prove how much you love someone?

In the thread starter's opening post, it seems the soldier was really willing to go all out for this young lady he deemed so special. And yet, through the trial he had to undergo, he either faltered, or simply decided she wasn't worth it after all.

Those of us in a relationship often find ourselves in such straights I suppose, moments when we all ask ourselves, "What the f--- am I doing here?" These aren't even the times when the relationship is on the rocks, or there is a third party to speak of. It happens when we are by ourselves, when we are far away from our special someone, when we have time and distance to think about our own lives.

And I suppose this is but natural, as all the Philo classes and life lessons have often drilled into us. The only constant thing in life is change, and in all our imperfection we simply do not make all the right (or logical) decisions all the time when faced with the challenge of change. There are even times when we abandon logic and decide with our emotion, our "heart."

When their love affair was world news, Edward, Prince of Wales and Wallis Simpson, American divorcee, were pariahs of polite society. And yet, Edward abdicated his crown, stating in no uncertain terms "I cannot continue to be your Monarch without the love and support of the woman I love." Sure enough the British people were at first outraged. But the constancy of change changed even the constancy of British obstinacy, and years later the couple were hailed and admired for their undying love. In fact when Wallis Simpson died she was layed to rest alongside Edward in the Royal Palace, (if I am not mistaken) a first for a commoner, and an American at that.

Going back to the soldier in this story, he made his own decision as well. Whether or not it was the right one is purely now a matter of our own decisions and predilections.

Psychological? To prove a point? Given that he has sacrificed 99 days for her, doesn't he have the choice to also satisfy and at the same time challenge her faith in his love by leaving on the 99th day.

It shows a bit of defiance and pure intention of "Kung mahal mo ako patunayan mo rin sa akin sa pag-alis ko." At the same time ayaw nya rin i satisy iyong gusto ng girl na 100 days. Pero it would also go the other way, like "ayaw ko na sa iyo so bahala kana and I just realized that niloloko mo lang ako."

Learned Cackler, what have you to add?

wow, astig ang story na 'yan ah...

sa tingin ko pinatunayan lang niya na mahal niya 'yung babae. umalis lang siya dahil...
una: mahal niya 'yung babae, pero kung natiis siya ng 99 days, hindi siya mahal nung babae, at hindi patas ang ganoon, huwag na lang...
pangalawa: kaya niya ang 100 days, pero gusto niyang makita kung mahal siya nung babae, sapat para balewalain 'yung isang araw na kulang...

hay,... ewan, basta ang ganda ng istorya... nakaka-iyak

So I guess the folks here are divided into two schools of thought:

1) The soldier was "trying to prove a point" i.e. na kaya ko naman ang 100 araw, kahit 1000 pa, pero dapat pakita mo naman na may kahihinatnan ang ginagawa ko at hindi ka lang nagti-tripping

2) The soldier really did not love the girl enough. Period. Otherwise he would have hung in there without question or pause.

Which school of thought we believe in more says a lot about us as people, and perhaps hopw far we are willing to go for the sake of love as well.

Those currently in a relationship, how far would you go for the one you love? Perhaps more to the point, if your significant other right now were to tell you, "I don't believe you love me anymore. But if you stay 100 days out in snow in a far away country my faith in your love will be completely renewed." Would you do it?

If my feet were in the soldier's shoes, I wouldn't go as far as 100 days. Imagine that, why wait 100 days for someone only your instincts prove to be your beloved. I believe that to love someone, you must know him or her as a person, as a friend, and stuff like that.

My two cents.

So the question then becomes one of approach:

Would you really like to get to know each other better, or ar you the sort of eprson who thinks things should just click and you're it, that's the person for you?

tch... i don't really believe that love could be proven by such tests... whenever a girl tells me to prove myself to her, i just say "ok," smile and walk a away.
i would never ask the person i love to prove herself to me... she would do that in time and i do not have to ask her directly. and the world is fiercer than those stupid tests.
and she would know i love her if i stick with her no matter what the odds are... she doesn't have to ask me... i'll just do it because i love her.
why?
when the girl asks me to prove my love, it's a way of telling me she's not satisfied... or she's confused, too.
there is no such thing as a perfect relationship... and love is too damn complicated to be proven just like that.

Personally, I believe in getting to know the person you click with better.

You GO Demon!

(sigh)
how much would you indeed go for the person you love?
that is something we should not ask the one we love? why?
because time would come that fate itself would test your love...
and if we ask them to prove their love, then we don't love them at all.
love and relationships are very different things.
you could love someone without getting anything in return...

as for a fool like me, i love her. and i don't know if she loves me...
i'm not asking for anything in return...
it does seem stupid... but what the heck...
i've been playing the part of the fool ever since ...
and i don't really care... ha ha

one of my favorite foreign films, the others being Il Postino and Malena. And I owe it to the Ateneo for exposing me to these wonderful films...

Here's the script taken from the site:

http://www.allmoviescripts.com/scripts/114...42ae00ea7e.html

ALFREDO
I want to make you happy, Toto! I'm
going to tell you a story.
(And he squeezes
SALVATORE'S shoulder. It's
the signal for taking a
rest. They sit in a
doorway. ALFREDO starts
telling his story, and his
way of speaking is
hypnotic, magical. With
those eyes lost in empty
space, it's as if his
thoughts and his words
came in from some other
dimension, mysterious,
hidden...)
Once upon a time a king gave a feast
and there were all the most beautiful
princesses of the realm. Basta, one
of the guards, saw the king's
daughter: she was the loveliest of
all! And he immediately fell in love
with her. But what could a poor
soldier do compared with a king's
daughter?!...One day he managed
to meet her and told her he couldn't
live without her. The princess was so
struck by the depth of his feeling
that she said to the soldier 'If you
will wait a hundred days and a
hundred nights beneath my balcony,
then in the end I'll be yours.'
Christ, the soldier ran off there and
waited! One day, two days,
ten, twenty...Every night she looked
out of her window, but he never
budged. Come rain, wind, snow, never
budged! The birds shat on him and the
bees ate him alive! After ninety
nights he was gaunt and pale and
tears streamed from his eyes but he
couldn't hold them back. He didn't
even have the strength to sleep any
more. The princess kept watch...And
on the ninety-ninth night, the
soldier got up, picked up his chair
and left!

SALVATORE
No! You mean right at the end?
(SALVATORE is amazed,
dumbfounded; that ending
has made a deep
impression. They
start walking again.)
ALFREDO
That's right, Toto, right at the end?
And don't ask me what it means. If
you figure it out, let me know...

The story ends there. And here is Toto's explanation (after some years have passed):


SALVATORE :
Now I understand why the soldier went
away just before the end. That's
right, just one more night and the
princess would have been his. But
she, also, could not have kept her
promise. And...that would have been
terrible, he would have died from it.
So instead, for ninety-nine nights at
least he had lived with the illusion
that she was there waiting for him...
(This time SALVATORE is
the one to explain
something to ALFREDO. And
ALFREDO realizes how
bitter his story is and,
above all, that the boy
standing there is no
longer a boy...)

ALFREDO
Do like the soldier, Toto! Go away!
This land is cursed.
(They are now leaning
against a boat on the
beach. ALFREDO goes on
whispering his words.)
When you're here every day you feel
like you're at the center
of the universe, it seems like
nothing ever changes. Then you go
away, one year, two...And when you
come back, everything's different.
The thread has broken. You don't
find those you were looking for, your
things no longer exist. Isn't that
the case?...You've got to go away a
long time, for many, many years,
before coming back and finding your
people again, the land where
you were born...But not now, it's
impossible. Now you're blinder than I
am...

That was the explanation, according to Toto, in context with the story and his own life experiences. But of course, the answers of the people here are correct as well. People's experiences and perception/interpretation on life are different from one another.

I must watch this film again.

nakakabadtrip naman ang mga ganung klase ng babae