First game starts at 9 am, the second game will follow right after

First Round schedules

January 7, 2007 Sunday
Ateneo vs NU - 2nd Game

January 14, 2007 Sunday
Ateneo vs UP - 1st Game

January 18, 2007 Thursday
Ateneo vs UST - 2nd Game

January 21, 2007 Sunday
Ateneo vs Adamson - 1st Game

Is it that time again, where balls lie, bats cracks, and (blue)eagles fly in Rizal Memorial Stadium??? Where waking up before dawn and grabbing a bite in McDonald's is a routine??? Or where players (initially FRESHMEN, or in last year's case Jake and Caste et al.) may (or may not) forget some equipment in the locker on campus and may have to go back on get it?

SO IT IS!!! Where balls get lost (and found) along the left field stands and misspelled last names are on the scoreboard.

When you step onto that field donning the Hail Mary Blue, you not only part of a UAAP team but representing a university with PRIDE. So show up and cheer/rally for your teammates through good or bad.

AND JUST PLAY BASEBALL...

(Remember, there is no pressure!!! LOL!!!!)

PLAY BALL!!!

Can somebody please post this season's roster (with positions)?
And the lo-down about who's the favorite, the push-over este least favorite, the odds, etc. etc....

And can i nominate coach em's child as the "unofficial-official" ateneo blue batters' team mascot... (pang paswerte lang)...

Ateneo Blue Batters 2006-2007

Ang, Vince
Baltao, Stefano
Banzon, Carlo
Bartolome, Rheinhart
Cabanban, Anton
Caparangca, JR
Castillo, Paolo
Chua, Ck
David, Nico
Dizer, Nikko
Morales, Patrick
Olivares, Carlo
Pablo, Jiggy
Tolome, Alex
Yap, Ogie
Zamora, John
Zialcita, Justin

Head Coach: Alex Estipular
Ast. Coach: Andres Bonifacio
Team Manager / Coach: Em Fernandez

DJ TUPS in tha HOUSE!!!

Yup, it's that time of the year again, pare. Don't forget also the overnights kina Caste at Baltao! I really miss it, man! Best years of my life!!!

Anyway, ONE BIG FIGHT boys! We're cheering you on all the way from the USA!!!

[b]UAAP BASEBALL SEASON ONCE AGAIN!!!!!

Winning time boys!!!!

Congrats to the team for beating NU 9-6. Hats off to Justin Zialcita for striking out 14 (could be more) NU batters. Indeed a superb pitching performance. Also to Noj Baltao for that 2 run homerun in the 4th inning. Keep it up!

ONE BIG FIGHT! Congrats boys!

Balita ko 15 K's daw. Kamusta depensa ng team? Who's playing where?

Ang, Vince - P/RF
Baltao, Stefano - 1B
Banzon, Carlo - CF
Bartolome, Rheinhart -C (PAG WARM UP)
Cabanban, Anton - RF
Caparangca, JR -?
Castillo, Paolo - 3B
Chua, Ck - C/PH
David, Nico - 3B
Dizer, Nikko - C
Morales, Patrick - 2B
Olivares, Carlo - LF
Pablo, Jiggy - ?
Tolome, Alex - SS/2B
Yap, Ogie- ?
Zamora, John - RF/2B
Zialcita, Justin - P/SS

eto yung positions nila nung sunday.

Baltao?!?!?! Home Run?!?!? Out of the park??? Congrats chong and to the blue batters.

We might have that well-balanced team coach always wanted.

Buti pala Baltao's homer came a season late... I remember the team had a bet of whoever would hit that genuine home run... hahaha!!! sayang noj...

Now time for mr. maroon.... go boys

Yep legit homerun. sinisingil nga ako ni Baltao e. kaso usapan yun last year! hehehe! ok ang team this year. well balanced nga. though they still need to work on their hitting pa rin. medyo kulang pa. although 1st game pa lang and im sure they'll pick up as the season progresses. wala din masyadong veterans sa bench unlike your team last year. but overall, . . . hello finals!

Pitching machine lang yan!!! Tsaka kung may opportunity mag-free batting vs. a live pitcher! I'm pretty sure the guys we expect to hit will hit, especially the veterans.

The team is well-balanced, as I can see. But the most important thing is we finally have the pitcher we've been waiting for. Champion teams throughout the last 10 years of the UAAP have had dominant pitchers. I really like the team's chances of making it to the UAAP Finals this year. I'm really proud of the team's development the last few years. Of course, that's coming from a guy who played 2 years of winless ball, 1 year of 1-9 record, 1 year of 2-8 record, and of course, last year's 7-3.

ONE BIG FIGHT!

So I might just want to be at Rizal Stadium for the UAAP finals gig (if we actually do make it).... hmmmm... wouldnt that be exciting....

Me too, dude!

Musta buhay East Coast pare?

wow si noj! asteeeg! galeng!

FROM ADMU.EDU.PH ---> DATED JANUARY 7,2007

History repeating
The Rizal Memorial Baseball Stadium has certainly seen better days. When it opened in 1934 to replace Nozaleda Park as the main venue for baseball games, a team of barnstorming American Major Leaguers led by Babe Ruth (who was in the twilight of his career), former New York Yankee teammate Lou Gehrig, Jimmy Foxx, and Charlie Gehringer among many others played an exhausting three games in two days against a team of Filipino All-Stars. The Americans were on a tour of the Far East and they had just arrived from Japan. They scarcely had any time to rest when they took to the diamond on December 2, 1934 to an overflow crowd of American servicemen and curious Filipinos. The Americans didn’t disappoint as the Babe and Gehrig smacked the first two home runs ever inside the stadium to the roars of the assembled throng.

Today their home runs along with the famous dingers by Filipino players like Raul Saberon and Filomeno Codinera are marked for posterity by signs in the outfield. The baseball old-timers there still spin yarns of them. If they weren’t on hand to witness those home runs, they were hand-me-down stories from their fathers or grandfathers. Yet on this day when the UAAP Baseball Season 69 opened, I sat in the Press Box and absorbed their talk about the game.

When Blue Batters co-captain Noj Baltao lifted a breaking ball on a 2-1 count that Bulldog pitcher Alvinado hung a little longer than he would have wanted, a few of these baseball oldtimers stood up from their seats and craned their necks to watch the trajectory of the ball. The ball carried clean over the right field fence and out of the park just right above where Lou Gehrig blasted his sixth and last home run during that barnstorming tour some 72 years ago. “That was some home run,” said one bespectacled man as he licked his lips. The jubilant Ateneo Baseball team converged at home plate to greet Left Fielder Carlo Olivares who was plated home by Baltao’s Ruthian blast

[WTF, Ruthian Blast!!!! hahahaha!!!! I nearly fell off my seat!!! But congrats man!!! Keep doing that routine, maybe you did something the night before *wink]

As Baltao crossed the plate to back slaps and handshakes by his teammates, another old-timer leaned back on his chair amended his friend’s remark: “That was a great home run.” The score was 8-3 at the top of the fourth inning.

Take me out to the ballgame
The Ateneo team had been in the stadium for nearly four hours now. The first game between UST and Adamson had all the makings of an upset by the Falcons. The San Marcelino nine almost won in the regulation nine innings, but a late rally by last year’s 1st runner-up made sure that the next meal the Ateneans would be having was dinner. Tigers’ ace Noy Robles got stronger in extra innings as he blanked the Falcons’ bats while waiting for his team’s offense to get going. And at 12:53 in the afternoon, the game which had gone into 12 innings ended when the Tigers finally completed their rally for a 6-4 win.

[SAYANG!!! Im sure I knew which side we picked... I could only imagine how this game went]

At this point, Baltao was a little worried about his team’s rhythm as he sized up their foe. It seemed like they warmed up about two ours ago. On the other hand, the NU Bulldogs were incredibly loose as they jostled about on their side of the field. “Those guys (NU) are excellent players and strategists. We’ll be okay once this gets started,” he reassured before joining his team for one more round of warm-up drills. [<--- yun pala success para mag home-run. hahaha... worried pa daw]

Up in the stands, there were some 40 Atenean supporters (including members of the Blue Babble Battalion) on hand to lend a cheer or two or to even buy some bananas to give the Blue Batters some extra potassium for what looked to be another long game. Said sports photographer Al Neri who also serves as one of the Blue Babble Battalion’s coaches, “I think people know that this team has a very good chance to win this year.” [<--- every year naman, diba each team starts at 0-0...hahaha]


Dr. K keeps the Bulldogs at bay

At exactly 1:14 pm, Home Plate Umpire Roberto Ituralde yelled “Play ball!” And for an Ateneo team that waited a year to take to the field after their disappointing finish last season, it was one of the two sounds they longed to hear.[<--- last year was a breakthrough po, we finally felt we were a really good team. And we had new cheers!!!! I just hope the boys can sustain that mentality.]

“Stuuuhh-riiikee,” harrumphed Ituralde after rookie Justin Zialcita struck out two Bulldog batters in succession after starting pitcher Vince Ang loaded the bases. That was the second sound that was sweet music to the Ateneans – strikes. They had found their long coveted Dr. K to beef up their staff after Ateneo pitchers tired out in the homestretch of last season.[<---- Justin "Dr.K" Zialcita, pwede!!!!]

The Blue Batters took a 1-0 lead at the top of the first inning when catcher Nikko Dizer doubled home Baltao from second. But Dizer tried to stretch the two-bagger into a triple and was promptly nailed at third to end the hot corner threat. [<----Hahaha!!! He still has not learned from last year!!!! If he wants to reach third base, tell him to get to practice early and do laps. Get some pounds off!!!! hahahaha]

Nevertheless Ateneo Coach Alex Estipular liked the aggressiveness. “Just be careful with your base running,” he reminded. [ OK, run BACKWARD FORWARD!!!]

As the Bulldogs took their turn to bat at the bottom of the inning, Baltao’s earlier fears about the loss of sharpness surfaced. A spate of fielding errors and Ang’s location problems gave the lead to NU 2-1 until Zialcita took to the mound. It would be a long afternoon for the Gastambide nine as the rookie from Southridge fanned an incredible 15 batters in 8.2 innings. [<---- UNHEARD OF!!!! esp. from Ateneo]

Escaping the jam in the first buoyed the team that they soon knocked out Alvinado out of the game by scoring five runs in the third and two in the fourth courtesy of Baltao’s round tripper. Showing no mercy, Zialcita struck out the side on 13 pitches in the bottom of the fourth.[<----OMG!!!!]

The Bulldogs would go through four pitching changes in an attempt to stem the blue tide. After Zialcita stole 3rd base and home after a double (what else did this guy not do?) to put Ateneo firmly ahead 9-3 in the fifth, NU began to chip away at the lead. With pitcher Manny Natividad finally shutting down the Blue Batters and Zialcita’s balk walking home a run, the Bulldogs continued to patiently claw their way back and were 9-6 in the bottom half of the ninth inning. Apparently the grind of a long day finally got to the Ateneans. But after recording the first two outs of the inning with K numbers 13 and 14, Estipular egged on his pitcher for “One last strike” to end the game.

At 3:47pm, Justin Zialcita obliged and caught NU Bulldog Galledo looking for the third and final out of the game. The match had taken almost three hours to play. One old-timer looked at a colleague and in a gravelly voice said, “It seems like we watched three games. But they were very good games.”

An exuberant Ateneo nine took to the field for their post-game exercises as their NU counterparts filed for the dugout. Some Ateneo supporters including dozens of kids from the nearby impoverished sections of Malate poured towards the field to congratulate the victorious Blue Batters.

“It’s a good start for the team,” smiled Al Neri. Aside from Zialcita’s masterpiece, the team got plenty of great hitting from Dizer, Olivares, and co-captains Baltao and John Zamora. Even the rookies got a little playing time.

Joked one old-timer, “How can Ateneo lose when they have a National Hero for one of their coaches (in reference to Blue Batters assistant coach Andres Bonifacio)?” [<--- HOW COULD WE LOSE WITH ANDRES BONIFACIO?!?!!? HAHAHAHA Smile coach Boni, B...E...A....M... means SMILE.... SMILE SI COACH PAG BEAM!!!!! HAHAHAHA]

These are better days for Ateneo baseball. And it seems just right in this grand old stadium where the Babe and Lou Gehrig ruled the roost back in the day.

*nota: I hope that Justin gets rest for his arm cause remember the UAAP season is not a sprint contest but a marathon... hahaha got that from a co-worker. I wonder whats coach's pitching rotation this year.... whos closer??? Congrats to the team....

NOJ'S RUTHIAN BLAST!!!!! HAHAHAHA still laughing chong

ATENEO 2-0!!!!!

Congrats for beating UP 9-3!

Congrats boys! ONE BIG FIGHT!!!

Defending champions lang naman ang tinalo ninyo... Hehehe!

pics are up for the game vs NU and UP at www.fabilioh.com

The boys lost the game against UST a while ago 4-1. Though i wasnt able to watch the game. But from what I heard, hitting was quite off. They couldnt seem to get the offense going against the well rested pitcher of UST (Robles). Vince Ang was the starting pitcher and he did quite a good job early on. Much better than his debut during the NU game. Although he gave up 3 of the 4 runs (I believe some of them were unearned). Zialcita once again pitched very well giving up only one run in 6 and something innings.

It was still a good game. Yun lang di na sweep

hey... you win some you lose some....

I just hope that the team will learn from this loss. Bawian niyo sa 2nd Round! Haha.

They learn pretty quick!

Congrats to the team for demolishing Adamson 12-1 in 5 innings. Justin Zialcita didnt even pitch during the game! Hats off to Nico David for that 3 run homerun!

Hmmm... Kaya pala no one is putting up updates on Blue Batters...

We are back at the beginning... a .500 team. With losses to NU and Adamson, our ride to a "twice-to-beat" advantage just got tougher. Now with UP and UST next, the Blue Batters have to get ready for a dog fight.

Bakit kaya? Always leave it to Team Ateneo to keep things interesting. Like two years, when we had a "mathmatical" shot to make it to the Final Four only to be upended.

Then just last year, we were riding to be the second... only to be ended as the third seed. Yes, we played a terrific game 1 but lost that fire at game two. It was championship or bust that year.

And now, tied for 3rd place with 2 to go. I hope the team did not pride themselves of being first place after the first round (first time in recent history). The team has to adjust its attitude and stay humble. Stick to the basics. Remember what got you to 3-1 and not 0-2. Vince may not be with the team but it only shows that somebody has to STEP UP...

If there is one team that can salvage SEASON 69 for Team Ateneo on a good point, it is the Ateneo Blue Batters. Attention now lies on you guys, it is a matter of willing to take it...

ONE BIG FIGHT!!!! POKUS LANG YAN!!!

P.S. Naka speed-dial kami (Bench Pres. Caste, Mr.Clutch Bautista, Heart and Soul Pua, and All-around 2pac) sa celfon ni coach alex!!! Kaya "when in need, the BENCH shall LEAD!!! hahahaha

UAAP forfeits all baseball games won by Ateneo

Article posted February 15, 2007 - 07:44 PM

The University Athletics Association of the Philippines (UAAP) board decided on Thursday to forfeit all the baseball games won by the Ateneo Blue Eagles in Season 69 of the league because one of its players is an American citizen.

In an emergency meeting held at the University of Santo Tomas, Ateneo failed to submit the necessary documents proving that Michael Justine Zialcita is a Filipino citizen, forcing the board to make the decision of forfeiting the team's three victories in eight games in the double-round eliminations.

The 18-year-old lefty was born in the United States of parents who are both from the Philippines. But Zialcita's application for dual citizenship has not yet been approved by the Bureau of Immigration.

"The league gave them enough time to process the documents," Bren Perez, athletic director of the University of the East, said.

Because of this development, the Eagles will not play in the Final Four as the fourth-ranked squad.

Defending champion University of the Philippines, which finished the eliminations tied with Adamson and National University for the top spot with their identical 5-3 cards, is now seeded no. 1 and the Falcons the No. 2 team.

The Maroons and the Falcons, who now hold identical 6-2 slates because of the forfeiture, will also both play with twice-to-advantage.

UP gained the top spot because of fewer runs allowed during the eliminations against adamson.

UP will face UST in the semis which will be held on Sunday at the Rizal Memorial Baseball Stadium. and Adamson, which is now the no. 4 squad, will meet the Maroons. - GMANews.

What I would like to know is who the hell was in charge of the team's paperwork? How could he let a whole year pass without fixing zialcita's papers? Fire the dumb bastard. This was the strongest team the ateneo ever had in decades. It could have made it to the finals if not for his stupidity.

Who is the team manager anyway?

I wonder why the coach kept playing Zamora? The guy could not hit to save his life. Castillo was more productive at the plate. Castillo was far better than zamora at second base and right field. Zamora looked so lost!!!

If Zamora was not pitching, he should have been wiping the bench with his ass. What the hell was the coach thinking? Couldnt he see the limitations of Zamora?

Who are graduating? With Zamora gone, the team is much stronger. Is Baltao graduating?

Zialcita needed a certification from the Department of Justice which states that he is recognized as a Filipino. Its a personal document which he will need in the future for other transactions aside from playing UAAP baseball. Its something like a birth certificate. Yes the office should have made sure that before the season started all papers are in order. However, with Zialcita's case, the rule states that foreign born players are required to submit an Alien Certifacte of Registration. But since Zialcita is enrolled as a Filipino, the ACR is not necessary. Hence, the oversight. Yes its not a valid excuse, however the office did get in touch with the UAAP and asked if the team could submit Zialcita's certification before the season ends. The UAAP obliged and gave the team until the end of the 2nd round to submit it. That's when Zialcita's father tried within his powers to secure the document before the said deadline. By some stroke of luck, the document lingered within the DOJ. Its beyond our knowledge why it took so long for the DOJ to release the said document. The rest is history. The deadline wasn't met and the team was disqualified.

So who's responsibility was it? I'd say both the office and the Zialcitas. As much as it was the job of the office to make sure that all documents were in order, it was also the Zialcitas responsibility to secure the document knowing that Justin is a US passport holder. Again, its a personal document. Much like a birth certificate. Yes the office made a mistake, and they found a way to fix it by asking for an extension which was granted. Afterwhich it was up to the Zialcitas to secure the document. If I'm not mistaken they had more than a week to secure it. Now, who's fault was it? The Athletics Office? The Zialcitas? The DOJ? I'm not sure. But the question is has the said document been secured already? If so, when? If not, then it wouldn't have mattered since it wouldn't have beaten the deadline anyway. Or maybe it was the UAAP rule that was stupid.

It's true that the team could have made it to the finals. But they also lost all their games in the 2nd round. Maybe they could have won, and maybe not. From here, we move forward.

Who in "the office" is in charge of documentation and making sure that players are elligible? Why is the blame being placed on the Zialcitas. Was he not recruited before the school year began? "The office" if they had done their homework, should have known that he was an inelligible player. They should not have recruited him in the first place. Assuming that they knew he needed the ACR, they had march april and may to fix his documents prior to registration. They had from june to january to fix his ACR. "The office" should have followed up every month. Right before the games Zialcita should not have been played at all.

I do not think any parent would like to have this happen to his child. I think the Zialcitas were not made aware early enough of the necessity of the ACR. They were only informed when it was too late.

No sir. The blame should not be shared by the Zialcitas. The blame falls only on the jerk who runs "The Office".

How Pathetic!! Blaming the parents? Even La Salle had more balls than "The Office". They did not try to blame the illegal recruitment on the Benitez's parents.

Losing all their games in the second half? Maybe there is something wrong with the coach or the manager? He was unable to inspire his team to carry on with their performance.

Again, who is the manager of the team?

Who ever said anything about blaming the Zialcitas? please read my post once again. Never did i say that I was blaming them. All I said was that it was their responsibility to secure the document because it is a personal document. Im not blaming the Zialcitas. Why would I?

"The Office" is responsible, accountable, will be at fault if they field an ineligible player. Punitive action for their failure to properly screen the player is a natural consequence. The Zialcitas were unable to provide the necessary requirements for eligibility. They would be responsible, accountable and at fault had "the office" benched him or cut him from the team for the lack of documentation.

The Zialcitas were unable to submit the ACR or whatever other document was needed. The punishment for that failure is not being able to play.

Who allowed Justin Zialcita to play? His Family or "The Office"?

Collect your thoughts before you respond.

I respect your thoughts on this matter. But you should also collect your thoughts before you respond since you're the one who has a lot of questions about who did what and how what happened. I don't need to collect my thoughts because I am aware of what really happened.

Regarding your question of who allowed Justin to play, it was both his family and "the Office". It was a management decision which was cleared with the officials of the athletics department.

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I respect your thoughts on this matter. But you should also collect your thoughts before you respond since you're the one who has a lot of questions about who did what and how what happened. I don't need to collect my thoughts because I am aware of what really happened.

Regarding your question of who allowed Justin to play, it was both his family and "the Office". It was a management decision which was cleared with the officials of the athletics department.
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Listen Sonny boy. Let us take your last paragraph of your response. You are implying that the Zialcita family and "the Office" form the management of the baseball team. They ALLOWED him to play!!! The athletics department cleared the decision of the management (both the family and "the office").

Ergo, you are saying that the Athletics department recognizes the zialcita family as part of the management of the baseball team!!

If this is so, then no wonder the baseball team did so poorly. First of all, the zialcita family should not have any say at all. Are they on Ateneo's payroll? If not, then they have no say at all.

Let us take the last sentence of the first paragraph of your response. You were aware of what really happened. This statement implies a few things: 1. It implies you are part of the baseball team management. 2. It implies you are part of the Athletics department. 3. It implies you are a jerk off who likes to think he knows every little thing that goes on in every Ateneo team.

If you are part of the team management and had a say as to who plays and who does not. Then I am afraid you should resign your position and take responsibility for the damage you have done to the school. In fact you should look for some cojones and take responsibility rather than try to share the blame with the zialcita family.

If you are part of the Athletics department then it was your job to ensure that each player complied with the necessary documentation for eligibility. If the player failed to do so then you should have stricken zialcita's name from the roster. If it was not your job in the department then stop defending the jerk responsible for this big booboo.

If you are niether part of the team management nor the athletics department, who are you trying to protect? Why are you trying to protect the jerk who screwed up?

Plain and simple gramps, i wasn't trying to defend anybody. just stating what really happend. i guess people like you need to know the facts since you seem to know a whole lot about managing and running athletic teams. i guess the ateneo, most especially "the office" could use someone like you. someone who knows it all. unfortunately, that's all there is..... you're just a know it all.

Oh I would not say I know it all. I know enough. For instance, I know that one must take responsibility for one's actions. So If I screwed up with the Zialcita case, I would not go blame the Zialcita's, I would resign as manager or as athletic's director in charge of eligibility.

I suppose you are right sonny boy, "the office" could use someone like me. At least i would bring some balls to that office. I would probably have to fire a fart like you who is too gay to take responsibility.

That just proves what type of a person you are. You're a quitter. You cannot face the fact that you have or will make a mistake, if so you resign.

How can "the office" use someone like you if you encounter a small bump on the road, then all you do is resign

That just proves what type of a person you are. You're a quitter. You cannot face the fact that you have or will make a mistake, if so you resign.

How can "the office" use someone like you if you encounter a small bump on the road, then all you do is resign
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SMALL BUMP?!? When La salle was caught playing illegal players. was there not a whole ruckus about it? It was all over the news. Didn't the Ateneo community(at least the alumni and students) call it a shameful act? Am sure many ateneans said that the actions of a few brought dishonor to the La salle community.

Ateneo was lucky that it was "just baseball" where in theywere caught with an ineligible player. The sports writers couldn't give a rat's ass about the sport. But that does not take away the fact that the Ateneo was involved in using ineligible players. And thanks to some idiot in "the office" who failed to do his job, has brought shame and dishonor to the school.

If you sir, will admit to being a hypocrite, then I will understand how you can consider the Ateneo playing an ineligible player a "small bump" and still consider La salle as a school without honor.

"smal bump" is flunking your a high school year or screwing up your finals. No matter how you look at it, it is your fault and you have to repeat. This is much bigger. This is about character and honor.

No sir, having character, taking responsibility and living with honor are core values that are taught to Ateneans. Resignation is in order.

^^ look gramps! it seems that you really don't get the whole point. everything that has been posted here is an explanation of what has transpired during the past few months. if you read them carefully (of course you have to understand it too in case you don't know) no one was being blamed for anything. again, they were explanations of who was supposed to be responsible for what. you're the only one who keeps on pointing out that it was this or that person's fault. but since you seem to be happy doing that, i'm happy for you.

bottomline gramps, things happened and lessons were learned. it's time to move on. the people in "the office" are still there and will always be there. there's nothing you can do about it.

by the way, please feel free to drop by "the office" and discuss these matters with us. that is if you have the balls to do so. since you know a lot, it wouldn't be that difficult for you to find us.


more power to you gramps!

Idiot! If you read my original post, I simply asked who was in charge of the paperwork and who was the team manager.

You then reply with some BS that it was no one's fault and you never answered the original question of wh was the manager? Then you go into " it is partly the Zialcita's responsibility or whatever to avoid answering the original question.

Then "the Zone", who is probably your idiot boss or the one really responsible for the fiasco calls the Zialcita affair a "small bump". He joins in the exchange without answering my original question.

And you say I do not get it?!?

So before you answer any questions, stop picking your nose and eating your buggers and think before you reply.

Well, well, well, you have finally admitted that you were part of the office. This explains your whole defense and evasiveness in answering my original question. Well kid, I guess you are still wet behind the ears and you probably had your thumb up your ass when god gave out brains.

I pity our boys on the baseball team. How can they fly like eagles when they have to work with turkeys!

Oh Sonny boy, after you wipe your nose, you may want to read the article of Tony Samson. He is a product of the Ateneo. He currently writes for businessworld. He has been around the block and knows whereof he speaks.

The piece is entitled "Correction". It is more about Government but i would say it pretty much applies to you and your boss in relation to the zialcita case. I would also say that it was pretty much the way you defended "the office".

For brevity I omited his examples of the various strategies.

Until the next season ... you little dickweed!

Correction

Often the simple act of admitting an error, especially when due to one's own oversight or negligence, is not considered as the first option of the public figure and news subject. Instead, a series of moves are taken to postpone an admission of wrong doing or incompetence. The immediate reaction is to initiate a process of cover-up, which in PR lingo is called “Damage Control.” Often the damange being controlled refers to personal reputations rather than anything related to the public good, even if this is often invoked.

Readily admitting mistakes is not an automatic human reaction. Apologies are issued after other options like denials and finger pointing fail. The first thoughts that come to mind before an admission of guilt or incompetenceinvolve deferring action or a definitive statement. A few dilatory tactics are employed.

Tactics such as forming a task force to see what really happened. Looking for other people to blame to confuse the issue. Appointing a spokesperson, prefferably one who is not involved thus allowing the spokesperson to begin the briefing with a disclaimer.

All the strategies mentioned are variations of postponing the inevitable admission. The hope is that the public will forget about the whole matter and move on to a new crisis.

As the entanglements multiply and the story falls apart, a confession becomes inevitable. It is curiously devoid of any admission of guilt. Phrases like (fill in the blanks, why don't you )and it is nobody's fault are invoked.

Isn't it simpler to go right away for an admission of wrongdoing?...

I suppose it is not really simpler to admit--especially if you cannot get employed anywher else.

Touche?!?

hahaha! you're funny gramps! again, i dare you to come over and say that to our face! unless god never gave you balls.

PAGING TWODOWN!!!!

any comments on the 1 win 9 loss record of the baseball team? so who do you blame this time around? "The OFFICE" perhaps?

All I can say is... SAYANG.