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- ångel -
bakit kaya? ang natitira na lang sa channel 2, si kris aquino, sharon cuneta, heart evangelista to name a really very few.. and a few stars.. gosh, si jolens bago pa mag-teenager nasa abs na, tapos bigla lilipat sya??

i mean, sabi kasi ng iba, this was GMA 7's strategy: not to pirate stars (yung sila yung magooffer at hindi sila yung lalapitan), to think of orig gimmicks and not make gaya (mga shows, games, time slots..) tsaka mga iba pa kaya narating nila yung kung nasan sila ngayon.

bata pa ako 7 na ako e (wala lang...) pinapanood ko lang sa 2 dati yung Ang TV (aminin na..hindi lang ako..) tsaka yung mga tagalized cartoons pag morning dati (mga Princess Sarah, Cedi..) eh wala lang.

lahat na lang lumilipat. bakit kaya?
beckham
ABS-CBN broadcasting slipped out of this year's top ten companies/busniesses in the phils., underscoring the fact that it has been hurt by a severe global advertising slump. the company fell to 11th place from last year's no. 5 spot. it had risen as high as no. 3 in 1999 and 2000. to rub salt in the wound, rival broadcaster GMA Network secured the 10th place this year. (ouch)
gaslighting_abbie
malaki ang cash flow problem ng ABS-CBN ever since masyado silang nag-diversify away from their core strengths in broadcasting.

since gabby lopez took over, the media conglomerate has taken a heavy beating in its strategic initiatives in publishing, merchandising, sports production (the ignominious end of the MBA is a classic case), and other related concerns. even skycable's subscription base has plateaued of late, which is not totally unexpected since talagang mas mabagal mag-expand ang population ng class A, B, and C kaysa D pababa. in contrast, GMA set more realistic yet bold goals and never attempted to overreach unlike ABS-CBN.

i'm not saying that channel 2 is the only one bleeding kasi lahat naman ng TV channels naghihirap dahil sa low revenue generation; it's just that there are aggravating factors that contribute to make ABS-CBN's bleeding even worse. so to cut losses, some ABS-CBN contract stars are let go.
- ångel -
yii..

and i thought it was more of a showbiz trend lang, na simple lang na problem..
beckham
my dear, nothing is simple in this world anymore. wink.gif
nameless one
mejo naaasar n rn ako sa channel 2. mrami n clang ginagaya from channel 7. examples: 1. ung maalaala m kya, patterned n rn sa magpakailanman (tru to life stories ng mga artista), 2. ung mga sitcoms nla (esp ok fine whatever), ginagaya ung style ng channel 7 (kool k lng!) n may bukingan adlibs...

mrami p tlaga, nde ko lng maalala ung iba...
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
i noticed this too.. siguro nalulugi na ung ABS.. nalalamangan na ng GMA.. kaasar lang ung ABS lagi nalang sinasabi nilang number 1 sila.. e minsan, hindi naman totoo. si amy perez, gary lim, jolina, and the latest, ariel rivera.
- ångel -
nung bday ni regine, si martin nievera at sharon cuneta nasa SOP! kung nuon lang to, hindi papayagan ang mga yun...

si pops kapuso na rin... kawawa naman ang abs. every show ata ng GMA, from morning to night, soap operas to public service, to comedies, gma ang champion..
nameless one
QUOTE
Originally posted by shy_angel:
kawawa naman ang abs. every show ata ng GMA, from morning to night, soap operas to public service, to comedies, gma ang champion..


nde nman lhat ng shows panalo ang gma. baduy at ang babaw magpatawa nla anjo at joey d. mejo bastos p. korny ung sicom n vic sotto 2wing sun at ung bagong sitcom nla joey at anjo 2wing wed. mas magaling p c bayani kaysa kanila e.
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
oo nga, hindi lahat lamang GMA.. pero nakakaburat parin si sharon, parang napakaplastik! i like vina.. i saw her sa heart to heart kanina.. grabe.. if i were her age, ligawan ko yon! ha! biggrin.gif

si martin nievera at pops kapuso na rin? oel.. gusto ko si sarah k, si chynna o. at si anne c. smile.gif
- ångel -
bakit ikaw pwede maglagay ng kuay at mag iba ng font?

ang daya naman non.. smile.gif
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
tats simple.. cute ako!

seriously, it's easy, quote my message and see how i do it. smile.gif

QUOTE
Originally posted by shy_angel:
bakit ikaw pwede maglagay ng kuay at mag iba ng font?

ang daya naman non..    :)


[ May 05, 2003: Message edited by: ~R~o~n~n~i~e~ ]
- ångel -
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ~R~o~n~n~i~e~:
[B] like this?
- ångel -
nyek, ang gulo. but thanks!!
kakaiba-talaga
QUOTE
Originally posted by ~R~o~n~n~i~e~:
  tats simple.. cute ako!

seriously, it's easy, quote my message and see how i do it.    :)

[ May 05, 2003: Message edited by: ~R~o~n~n~i~e~ ]
kakaiba-talaga
QUOTE
Originally posted by ~R~o~n~n~i~e~:
  oo nga, hindi lahat lamang GMA.. pero nakakaburat parin si sharon, parang napakaplastik! i like vina.. i saw her sa heart to heart kanina.. grabe.. if i were her age, ligawan ko yon! ha!   biggrin.gif


pinagaaralan ko rin
si martin nievera at pops kapuso na rin? oel.. gusto ko si sarah k, si chynna o. at si anne c.   smile.gif
- ångel -
syet gaya gaya sila sa STAR FOR A NIGHT!!!! sa viva! yung sa kanila naman, STAR IN A MILLION!!!

isa-isahin lahat ng ginaya recently tsaka yung mga hits na ginaya na super obvious na nagpakulo ng dugo ng mga kapuso people:

wish ko lang-willingly yours
all about u-teysi
star for a night-star in a million
betty la fea-eco moda
extra extra-et cetera
magpakailanman-format ng maalaala mo kaya
click-berks (hit kasi kaya inalis ang gmik at pinalitan..)
publicity ng sex bomb-tinatapatan ng publicity ng g-girls
imbestigador-mission x

i could go on and on pero wala rin..

tsaka alam nyo na rin siguro how the cable networks like Sky manipulated without due authorization the location of GMA in terms of channel? nililipat-lipat sa 12, 14, 12, 14... tapos pag top-rating shows medyo sira ang reception? foul play... (ika nga ni Mike Enriquez.. "Lopez din ba ang nasa likod nyan, NTC [Nat'l TeleCommunications Commission??}?"
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
QUOTE
Originally posted by shy_angel:
nyek, ang gulo. but thanks!!


no problemo amigo!
SilverTrav
QUOTE
Originally posted by shy_angel:
syet gaya gaya sila sa STAR FOR A NIGHT!!!! sa viva! yung sa kanila naman, STAR IN A MILLION!!!

isa-isahin lahat ng ginaya recently tsaka yung mga hits na ginaya na super obvious na nagpakulo ng dugo ng mga kapuso people:

wish ko lang-willingly yours
all about u-teysi
star for a night-star in a million
betty la fea-eco moda
extra extra-et cetera
magpakailanman-format ng maalaala mo kaya
click-berks (hit kasi kaya inalis ang gmik at pinalitan..)
publicity ng sex bomb-tinatapatan ng publicity ng g-girls
imbestigador-mission x

i could go on and on pero wala rin..

tsaka alam nyo na rin siguro how the cable networks like Sky manipulated without due authorization the location of GMA in terms of channel? nililipat-lipat sa 12, 14, 12, 14... tapos pag top-rating shows medyo sira ang reception? foul play... (ika nga ni Mike Enriquez.. "Lopez din ba ang nasa likod nyan, NTC [Nat'l TeleCommunications Commission??}?"


Marami ngang kinokopya ang ABS sa GMA. But...

Extra Extra was actually "copied" from ABS-CBN's Balitang K.

Teysi, on the other hand, is on a league of its own. Tessie Tomas has been dominating the morning time slots five years ago, until ABS decided to axe it because Tessie has to go to UK.

All About You is not even close to it. The idea is similar to Charlene's Feel At Home, which I reckon that ABS had that type of show first.
beckham
it's purely busniess. wink.gif
but all the other holdings of GMA are suffering more than the holdings of abs-cbn.
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
so what do you guys like better? abs o gma? ako before abs, now gma! wahoo! smile.gif
beckham
i like Eddie Garcia's (et al) series sa GMA. so far that's it. The other series before it are sickening. sorry, but TO ME they are.
News and Current Events-wise, I look forward to Saksi, but not to frontpage. i like morning girls better than sis, but i like Lucy torres-Gomez better than Charline Mulach. biggrin.gif labo men...
Leafy
dati di pa naman uso ung cutthroat competition bet ABS and GMA. i think nagsimula lang yan nung Papal Visit.

ever since nang-pirate ang ABS-CBN sa GMA, mdyo di ko trip ABS-CBN. ang pinaka-una nila nilang pinirita na talent na naaalala ko was ANJO YLLANA when ABS got him out of OBER DA BAKOD co-starring JAnno Gibbs, Donita Rose and Gelli de Belen and cast him with JOEY and Richard and co. sa Palibhasa LAlake.

but i think me reversal na, marami nang bumalik sa Siyete. pero nalungkot ako nung malaman ko lilipat na c Long Mejia (sama mo na si Dagul) sa Dos. gsto ko chemistry, comedy and timing nila sa Kool Ka Lang kahit and Long is one of the reasons kung bakit nakakatawa ang KKL .

honestly, i really think that Dos doesnt need a LOng Mejia kasi meron na silang Bayani Agbayani.

kung pwede lang, ibalik na ng 7 si Ariel Rivera sa Dos makuha lang nila ulit si LOng.

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gusto ko ung concept ng Siyete ngyun. parang integrated ung shows nila. me mga scenes sa sitcoms nila na bigla nalang susulpot ung cast ng iba sitcom...
for example, in Daboy en Da Girl, tumawag si Joey Marquez as Mags of KKL sa cel ni DAboy para sabihin na malapit na maayos ung tv/radyo ni Daboy... gets ba? smile.gif

lalang... share ko lang... smile.gif
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
the artists just go wherever they receive money...
- ångel -
QUOTE
Originally posted by ++~~R~o~n~n~i~e~~++:
  so what do you guys like better? abs o gma? ako before abs, now gma! wahoo!   smile.gif


right on! ABS ako dati, pero now, GMA ako.
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
kapuso biggrin.gif
kiddo-
neither smile.gif
dash
abs-cbn = home of movie starlets and the forgotten stars.

i dont like either channel. both just showcase poor quality Filipino works and talents. i'd rather read a book.
jonathan livingston seagull
pana-panahon lang yan.... dati naghahari ang ABS, baka this time, GMA naman.

malay nyo, sa pagdating ng panahon e magbabaliktad uli ang eksena. o kaya, magawa namang umunlad at sumikat ng iba pang mga local channels. biggrin.gif
psycho_me
studio 23!
hahaha!! panggulo ako!

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chuckie
Ang alam ko nauna ang Maalala kaysa sa Magpakailanman.

Tinapat din ng GMA yung mga soaps ng ABS. Alam kong nauna ang ABS sa mga Filipino soaps sa late night (na tipong apat na), then sumunod na yung GMA.

sorry but ABSCBN ako.
nameless one
QUOTE
Originally posted by chuckie:
Ang alam ko nauna ang Maalala kaysa sa Magpakailanman.


tama naman yn e. nauna nga ang maalaala.

ang ginaya ng maalaala ay ung mga "true to life stories ng mga artista" format. yn n tlaga ung orig n format ng magpakailanaman.

dba mga letter senders ang mga fini-feature n story ng maalaala dti?
- ångel -
what-everr.

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mas magaling ang publicity strategies ng GMA. ganyan naman ang pinoy, eh. gaya gaya. pero kung gayahan na rin lang ang pag-uusapan, mas magaling pa rin ang GMA gumamit ng pinanggayahan nila.

and they play fair. Betty La Fea was a hit, ABS got ECO MODA. how loser is that?? pag pinayreyt ng GMA ang Meteor Garden 2, fine, maiinis ako.

fine, ginaya ng GMA Artists Center ang ABS-CBN Talent Center. admit ko naman nga diba, gayahan lang. but GMA for me is better talaga. esp sa publicity.

tingnan nyo ung parang plug ng mga soaps sa GMA. (trend nila ngayon ang gumamit ng titles ng songs as titles of soaps.. wala lang) ipe-play ung song, like this:

*kung mawawala ka, hindi ko makakayang... harapin ang bukas nang nag-iisa...* (karylle and ogie a. singing in the background) tapos papakita lahat ng magagandang scenes since the start of the soap, may pa-slow mo effect pa minsan..

nakita ko yung "Sana'y Wala Nang Wakas", may song din sa background tapos mga scenes din....

syempre i watch both channels to compare and all.

and BERKS talaga ang losers!! pinapalitaw pa (before) na atenista pati si HEART?? hello?? tingnan ko lang talaga kung pumasa un ditoooo..... arts nun e....

sobrang haba na...

peace..

(btw, KUNG MAWAWALA KA is a really really really good soap. realistic, tsaka magaganda ung plots and twists. society pa ang focus. the other soaps, fine loser talaga.)
- ångel -
psychedelic_atenean
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psychedelic_atenean
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- ångel -
yuuuck!!

i hate both stations na (although mas gusto ko GMA) super panget sila mag compete!!
Les Infanterie
QUOTE
Originally posted by shy_angel:
syet gaya gaya sila sa STAR FOR A NIGHT!!!! sa viva! yung sa kanila naman, STAR IN A MILLION!!!

isa-isahin lahat ng ginaya recently tsaka yung mga hits na ginaya na super obvious na nagpakulo ng dugo ng mga kapuso people:

wish ko lang-willingly yours
all about u-teysi
star for a night-star in a million
betty la fea-eco moda
extra extra-et cetera
magpakailanman-format ng maalaala mo kaya
click-berks (hit kasi kaya inalis ang gmik at pinalitan..)
publicity ng sex bomb-tinatapatan ng publicity ng g-girls
imbestigador-mission x

i could go on and on pero wala rin..

tsaka alam nyo na rin siguro how the cable networks like Sky manipulated without due authorization the location of GMA in terms of channel? nililipat-lipat sa 12, 14, 12, 14... tapos pag top-rating shows medyo sira ang reception? foul play... (ika nga ni Mike Enriquez.. "Lopez din ba ang nasa likod nyan, NTC [Nat'l TeleCommunications Commission??}?"


diba hindi naman GMA ang star for a night? viva yun eh.
Les Infanterie
ginaya ng GMA:

kapamilya-kapuso
forgotten.soul.of.the.abyss
buti na lang may cable kami sa bahay. i don't get to see the feud between GMA and ABS. i would prefer catrtoon network over gma and abs. seryoso.
kenshin
we have to admit mas maganda values ng gma 7. especially work ethics.
TryCatchFinally
kadiri sila pareho, pero mas kadiri GMA.

I mean, c'mon, what's up with those sexbomb girls? Whatever happened to talent?

And can't they give up on Joey D.? soooobrang corny eh. Mas grabe pa kay Bayani. Bastos pa.
tsokolateng bulok
QUOTE(TryCatchFinally @ Aug 9 2004, 04:16 PM)
kadiri sila pareho, pero mas kadiri GMA.

I mean, c'mon, what's up with those sexbomb girls? Whatever happened to talent?

And can't they give up on Joey D.? soooobrang corny eh. Mas grabe pa kay Bayani. Bastos pa.

compare mo naman sa g-girls.. meron naman sa mga sexbomb ang mgaling kumanta. peace...

pag nakakahanap ng talent ang 7, kukunin ng channel 2 pag sikat. yun lang masasabi ko. hehe
kenshin
lumalala na ang network wars. sobra. what with the blatant gayahan ng shows. ABSCBN lahat na lang ng bagong shows ng GMA ginagaya.

and they offered tet defensor a large sum para palabasin na nilaglag siya ng GMA. the kris aquino incident. come on.

and kris, ano pa bang meron niya na hindi alam ng buong pilipinas?
really. bakit ba thriving pa ang career nun? melanie marquez was right. she's nothing without her parents. super abnormal psycho person.
Huntress Krystle
SIguro kaya sila lumilipat sa gma dahil na realize nila that Gma's the better channel saka di niala alam na katulad ng ibang celebs, bka sila naman ung susunod na tanggalin sa shows nila ng biglaan. Saka sa Gma talagang they take good care of their stars and they're original. Gumagawa tlga sila ng mga bagong ideas at hnd nanggagaya. So..gma rocks!
girl_on_bass
QUOTE(Huntress Krystle @ Sep 17 2004, 07:11 PM)
SIguro kaya sila lumilipat sa gma dahil na realize nila that Gma's the better channel saka di niala alam na katulad ng ibang celebs, bka sila naman ung susunod na tanggalin sa shows nila ng biglaan. Saka sa Gma talagang they take good care of their stars and they're original. Gumagawa tlga sila ng mga bagong ideas at hnd nanggagaya. So..gma rocks!

i totally agree with this one. kung anung bago sa GMA, laging ginagaya... mejo discreet nga lang kunwari ang abs about it, na sinasabi nila sa publiko na sila ung original. oh well...
IamZEUS
Ano na ang nangyari sa mga nag-ober da bakod sa GMA7?


Para kasing hindi na sila ganoon kasikat kung ikukumpara sa panahong nasa ABS-CBN sila.
ångel
i beg to disagree. while aaminin kong pro-GMA 7 ako (kapuso 'ika nga), kaya ko pa rin maging unbiased. pinapanood ko pareho ang GMA at ABSCBN shows para ikumpara yung iba't ibang elemento at aspeto nang parehong TV station. and i can name not a few stars na lumipat sa GMA dahil nababawasan na ang kinang nila sa ABS, nabigyang ng magandang project na nagpasikat sa kanila ulit, at biglang in-offer-an ng mas mataas na talent fee sa ABS para bumalik sila doon, tapos wala na namang nangyari sa career nila. yung iba, lumipat dun from GMA, lure of a higher salary, tapos ngayon asan na? hindi lang sa showbiz, pati sa news and current affairs. may G.A. nga lang ako ng 4:30 kaya kailangan ko na umalis, pero i'll get back to this. Ü
IamZEUS
May mga nalalaos din naman pag lipat nila sa ABS, at isang magandang teorya sa bagay na iyan ay ang pagkakaroon ng sobrang daming malalaking bituin doon. Nasa ABS na ang megastar, diamond star, comedy king, at iba pang malalaking artista. Kaya kung bagong lipat ang isang personalidad doon, malamang na masapawan na siya ng mga bigating artista na naroon na. 'Ika nga, mahirap sumikat sa ABS dahil sobrang dami nang mga sikat na naroon.

Sa GMA, kaya may sumisikat na iilan, ay dahilan sa kulang na kulang pa sa bankable stars ang naturang estasyon. Usually, dito nagmumula ang mga baguhang artista at kapag sumikat na, lilipat sa ABS for better and bigger exposure. 'Ika nga, kung nagsisimula ka pa lang, GMA ka muna. Pag medyo sikat ka na at kailangan mo na ng mas malawakang popularidad, lipat ka na sa ABS.

Anyway, siguro ganito lang yan: may mga sumisikat at hindi kapag lumipat.
Pareho nga lang siguro na may sumisikat at nalalaos sa dalawang estasyon. Pero palagay ko depende rin yan mismo sa artistang lumilipat. Depende sa talento niya at diskarte. At depende rin sa exposure na binibigay ng station.
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Bakit nga ba nauso ang exclusive contracts ng personalities sa ABS at GMA? Ginagawa ba yun sa ibang bansa? Ang alam ko kasi, ang mga TV celebrities abroad, kahit saang TV station pupuwedeng lumabas.
bryanne
QUOTE(TryCatchFinally @ Aug 10 2004, 12:16 AM) *
kadiri sila pareho, pero mas kadiri GMA.

I mean, c'mon, what's up with those sexbomb girls? Whatever happened to talent?

And can't they give up on Joey D.? soooobrang corny eh. Mas grabe pa kay Bayani. Bastos pa.


tell that to us pag meron ka nang sariling network.. yung as successful as either of those giants.

there's more to gma than those girls whom you're irritated with.

corny? di mo siguro nagegets yung sense and wit ng jokes niya (assuming it's his jokes, for one) kaya nakokornihan ka.
icompare ba si Bayani kay Joey? saka bastos? conservative mo naman.. smile.gif
one of the persons in the business i look up to..
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