punk is definitely not dead. there are many poser bands out there but hey there are still real punk bands. check out slipknot, glassjaw, hatebreed, chimaira, killswitch engage, quo vadis, dying fetus, skinless, curl up and die.. need i go on?

what do you think?

share ko lng....ano ba un?!? my friend kc ung screen saver nya sa phone gnun..punk's not dead wit' tha dude na nka peace sign...hehehe...la lng ang qt..

kung mai peace sign that's not punk..that's hippie

punk is different from hippie or gothic or indie or rock..

punk is mostly trash.

oh i see...thanks...

bantay is a dog
bantay sees punks
bantay bites punks
punks eats bantay
therefore punk's not dead!!

hahahaha

since when has slipknot, glassjaw and hatebreed been considered PUNK?!?!? hatebreed is loosley categorized as hardcore, glassjaw emo-core (or whatever) and slipknot new metal. hotugh some of these bands may have incorporated little elements of punk in thier music, they are not in any way, PUNK.
alot of punk/ pop-punk bands have been coming out latley. such as a simply plan (YUCK!), goodcharlotte (posers), and sum41. locally, there are punk bands rocking the scene sucha as HUH!, BoyElroy, The Betrayed and Throw.

since when has slipknot, glassjaw and hatebreed been considered PUNK?!?!? hatebreed is loosley categorized as hardcore, glassjaw emo-core (or whatever) and slipknot new metal. hotugh some of these bands may have incorporated little elements of punk in thier music, they are not in any way, PUNK.
alot of punk/ pop-punk bands have been coming out latley. such as a simply plan (YUCK!), goodcharlotte (posers), and sum41. locally, there are punk bands rocking the scene sucha as HUH!, BoyElroy, The Betrayed and Throw.

since when has slipknot, glassjaw and hatebreed been considered PUNK?!?!? hatebreed is categorized under hardcore, glassjaw emo-core (or whatever) and slipknot new metal. hotugh some of these bands may have incorporated little elements of punk in thier music, they are not in any way, PUNK.
alot of punk/ pop-punk bands have been coming out latley. such as a simply plan (YUCK!), goodcharlotte (posers), and sum41. locally, there are punk bands rocking the scene sucha as HUH!, BoyElroy, The Betrayed and Throw.

well said.

punk, hardcore.. what's the difference? it's all about trash. what part dont you get?
besides good charlotte never claimed to be punk. they themselves said that they're music is pop.they may look punk but hey if they said they're not then they're prolly not.

punk and hardcore? there's a big diff (if you actually LISTEN). hardcore came to be because of punk, and eventually has taken a life of its own.
ang paper-doll-decays was refferring to them as "real" punk bands.. now what constitutes a "REAL" punk band is a diferent story.

ahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahaahahahhaa

kung punk ang slipknot si avril lavigne metal

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

psycho girl - whats the difference you ask? hindi nalang ako magcocomment.

HATEBREED PUNK!!!!! YEAH!!!! pati busted punk

de seriously, medyo sablay talaga classification mo....i mean...pare....slipknot...hatebreed...ehehe...teka seryoso ka ba!? baka nanggagago ka!

psycho girl - wag ka na magpa-cool mali ka ok? hihi. peace.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH! nice one! finally.. may educated sa music na nagpost dito! hahahaha

P.S.

all about trash?

popper ka ba?

or did i not get u?

ang dense ng pa-cool effect mo e; its distracting

haha.

amen...

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

kelan?!?! kelan pa naging punk ang slipknot!????!

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

this is unparalleled hilarity

slipknot is punk. oh, please shoot me.


APIR!

i would have to agree that slipknot is, has not beeen, and will never be punk.

HOWEVER, you're dead wrong about glassjaw and hatebreed. punk, you see, has a lot of sub-genres, two of which are emo and hardcore. yes, emo punk and hardcore punk.
now, glassjaw falls under the first category. they're emo, and that is a fact that you have to digest. on the other hand, there's hatebreed, which, contrary to your assertion, is still punk for the very reason that they make hardcore music.



hah! excuse me, but what exactly makes hatebreed and glassjaw soooooo un-punk? :eek: if hardcore and emo "are" so devoid of "punkness," then why the fart are these genres called hardcore PUNK and emo PUNK in the first place? :mad:

am very sorry to glean that you've got a crude understanding of punk and its sub-genres. i thought that you knew what you were talking about, but then i've proven myself wrong. anyhow, hardcore and emo have incorporated elements of punk, although not as insignificant as you think.

i think this is worth reading. i posted this in peyups too. i authored this. do read, so you'd at least have a GOOD GRASP of hardcore PUNK. oh, and yes, hardcore PUNK.

hardcore is an offshoot of the punk movement. it began towards the end of the 70s in the US, but gained a considerable number of following in the early 80s. the most prominent bands are minor threat, black flag, bad brains, suicidal tendencies, agnostic front, the ex, and sick of it all, to name a few.

hardcore is a sub-genre of punk, though some people claim to have difficulty in tracing the "punkness" of these bands. this could be due to the fact that punk rock at that time, has been largely defined in terms of the clash and the pistols' material. the thing is, hardcore is more aggressive musically and politically. they are heavier and more intense than classic punk. they are usually characterized by stop-and-go rythms, heavy and steady beating of the drums, harsh vocals that almost never sing. it's really, really fast. in some cases, you won't even understand the words that are being blurted out.

the most definitive attribute of hardcore is its social activism. hc is more than music. it is politically-charged punk. hardcore is the most highly-politicized genre of music that i know of. people who are part of the movement openly combat all forms of oppression (racism, sexism, fascism, etc.), and this is highly evident in their lyrics.

hc is way different from the early punk scene, where pessimistic and anarchic attitudes reigned supreme. people used punk rock as their medium of protest against the pervasive societal ills at that time, but what exactly did they do to create a better society? they were critics, who did a great job of tongue-lashing, but were nevertheless distanced from the purest sense of political activism.

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alot of punk/ pop-punk bands have been coming out latley. such as a simply plan (YUCK!), goodcharlotte (posers), and sum41.

teka lang ah. it's gettting soooo obvious that you seem horribly unsure of what you're mercilessly babbling about.

yes, simple plan and sum41 are relatively new in the scene (circa 01-03) but compared to the other two who sprung up like fungi, good charlotte's been in the industry since 99. okay, they're not old school and everything, but you see, they have not enjoyed this mainstream popularity until this year. heck, four years, or even a year ago, the pop-loving people never even knew of their existence, but now.. oh my.. everyone who watches mtv or myx or ch v or whathaveyou knows about these guys. they're actually okay COMPARED to sum41 and simple plan. well, i don't like whiney lil boys singing about trivialities, 'coz i listen to old school straightedge hardcore PUNK (that's P-U-N-K) and old school straightedge emo PUNK (oh here: P-U-N-K) ala fugazi and faith.

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uh, betrayed is old school. since i don't listen to nu, i don't know if they're getting airplay. nevertheless, they're one of the classic punk bands in the philippines.


APIR.TAYO.DAMING.POSEUR.NAGKALAT.NAKAKATAKOT.NAKAKAMATAY.

LOOK ramoneS, what punk are you EXACTLY talking about? if you are refering to punk as popularized by the pistols, the clash, and the ramones, then i'm sorry to say that they no longer serve as the measurement of a certain sub-genre's punkness.

"hardcore came to be becasue of punk,"yes. but hardcore IS punk. indeed, it has taken on a life of its own, but that doesn't make it lesser punk. hardcore is punk. in fact, the right and complete term is hardcore punk. so i don't really buy your theory that hardcore is different from punk. because they're one. hardcore punk is punk. how redundant do i have to be before this sinks in to you?

and oh.. what did you mean by REAL PUNK BANDS? don't make the pistols or their mates the paragon of punk rock.. yes, they're among the pioneers. heck, they even made the genre mainstream. but what i;m pointing out is that punk, at that time, was only beginning to flourish. it was still at its infancy stage. punk was punk, and nothing else. punk was oi punk. teh music produced was homogenous, but it all stopped when another strand evolved (hc punk). you must understand that punk ala sex pistols IS classic. parang classic rock na mala led zep. ano, so ngayon ba yung mga deftones at lahat ng baguhan hindi na rin rock? thats how your logic goes. para sa iyo iisa lang ang punk, when in ALL TRUTH, that is SO WRONG, my friend.

pare, teka lang ah. parang ang dami mong alam eh noh.

sana hindi nagmamarunong mga tao dito. nakakasuka. *barf*

oo, chong, HATEBREED is punk. that's a fact, which seems alienated to every person in this thread *smirk*

alam mo kung bakit? ang hatebreed, pare.. hardcore. hardcore. at alam mo ba kung ano ang buong pangalan ng hardcore? ay, ill answer that for you.. hindi... okay, eto ah. HARDCORE PUNK.

it's freakin obvious that you dont even know teh history and evolution of punk. teka lang ah, alam mo ba kung ano ang punk? do you even know how, when, and why it started? alam mo ba kung ano yung "classic" ideals na pinaglalaban nito noon? kung oo ang sagot mo.. nyayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

you must be lying to yourself. nakakahiya ka kung alam mo ang history ng punk tapos di mo alam na ang hardcore ay punk o ang hatebreed ay punk


APIR.TAYO.DAMING.POSEURS.NAGKALAT.NAKAKATAKOT.NAKAKAMANGHA.NAKAKATAWA.NAKAKATIND
IG-BALAHIBO.

APIR.TAYO.ULIT.DAMING.POSEURS.

geez

you call tat EDUCATED? e-d-u-c-a-t-e-d?

the world has gone mad, indeed

please shoot me

APIR.TAYO.DAMING.POSEURS.NAGKALAT.NAGMAMARUNONG.NAKAKATAKOT.NAKAKAMANGHA.NAKAKAT
AWA.

goood point point about the hardcore part. my bad. sorry bout that.
im surprised that there are people like you who actually know about music in this forum.
yes hardcore is an offshoot of punk and emo an offshoot of hardcore (you can correct me here). i guess i was jst rattled by that fact that someone would put slipknot along side hatebreed and glassjaw and categorize them under PUNK.
i listen to alot of old school so im not very open to the newer punk band nowadays.

question.. since glassjaw (which you considered to be emo-- and offshoot of punk) contains elements of punk... so does that mean slipknot can be LOOSELY considered punk since thier music does incorporate several styles such as harcore? goes the same with new wave bands.. which sometimes fall under post-punk?

then again.. does it depend on how you see punk either as a genre or a culture or lifestyle, therefore deoviding it of all the technical cr@p ?

uh sige, mali ako kung ganun hahaha

pa-cool ako e! bwahahaha

edi hardcore punk ang hatebreed, hindi punk lang; rather an offshoot of punk; punk gone extremely heavy diba?

o baka mali nanaman tong understanding ko?

ah basta mas olats sakin yung mga nauna magpost! hahahaha

oryt! may new cool person dito sa thread na to

sino naman mangbabara sa kanya na mas cool?

music classification is mainly done for rack jabbing purposes, charts, and music formats.

the lines have blurred much. believe me, i have spent a lot of time in the music industry here and abroad aside from my advertising work. it can get confusing.

if you all read the recent rollingstone issue regarding the women of rock, eh the so-called guardians of rock, put aaliyah, ashanti, nelly furtado, mary blige alongside certified rockers like shirley manson, gwen stefani, courtney love. what gives?

but that's why, in music specialty stores, you'll find labels categorized as international pop/rock.

punk. eh lahit naghihimagsik ako sa mga bands like sum 41 and blink 182 eh wala tayo magagawa, naka-categorize sila dun eh.

as for emo and hardcore, yes they're offshoots of punk but there are a lot of metal influences there na rin.

while i eschew these cheesy punk acts, i like operation ivy (who helped revolutionize the hybrid music by fusing punk with ska), rancid, lars fredericksen and the bastards,
yeah yeah yeahs, bad religion, goldfinger, the vandals, the distillers, the misfits, propagandhi, and green day.



[ June 19, 2003: Message edited by: Bleachers King ]

yeah, me too. it freaked the hell out of me. anyhow, i pray that the categories, as well as the band that fall under these "labels" are all understood by now.

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Originally posted by owow_ramone:
i listen to alot of old school so im not very open to the newer punk band nowadays.

oh, me too, tho i ain't a fan of the pistols and cohorts. i know songs, yes, and i especially love this collaboration of the clash and the specials (old school ska). anyway, i ain't that familiar with newer "punk" bands, or so they claim, 'coz i for one, do not watch television and listen to the radio. i'm outdated, and i'm loving it.

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Originally posted by owow_ramone:
question.. since glassjaw (which you considered to be emo-- and offshoot of punk) contains elements of punk... so does that mean slipknot can be LOOSELY considered punk since thier music does incorporate several styles such as harcore? goes the same with new wave bands.. which sometimes fall under post-punk?

no.

and am very certain with that.

hardcore, you see, is not wholly about music. okay, so slipknot's got this in-your-face aggression with heavy drum pounding and mostrous vocals, but if you really listen (even if not that intently), you'd really notice the big difference. i cannot, for the life of me, describe this disparity, although hearing slipknot and embrace today (hc), for instance makes a clear mark (a big one, to be precise) in my mind that these two are different MUSICALLY and most especially, IDEOLOGICALLY. slipknot, does not adhere to a defined philosophy, which is in stark contrast to hardcore bands. therefore, i posit that slipknot is not hardcore.

mabigat lang ang tugtugan nila. that's all there is to it.

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Okay. hope this helps.

punk rock IS the MUSIC

punk IS the lifestyle. the culture.


APIR.TAYO

oiiiiiiiiii

i love operation ivy and rancid (tho i get easily tired of listening to tim's hoarse voice) too.. punk-ska rocks. and the yeah yeah yeahs, the distillers, and of course, propagandhi.

and there's the dominic gamboa-fronted betrayed. while speedy eddie contributed great vox to the original version of "never meant to be this way," domeng is and will always be the vocalist for this seminal pinoy punk band.



brody armstrong rocks!!!!

amen! thats all i needed to know.

i think punk as a lifestlye is still debatable though. mind giving your insights on it?

High-ho, let's go!

The Ramones - "Blitzkrieg Bop"

Hehe.

shouldn't it be "Hey-ho, let's go!"

loved their take on the old Lawrence-Gantray Spider-Man theme.

well, i personally abhor the ****-the-world mentality of the earlier punks. that would explain my loathing for the pistols. they were despicable to the very extreme, especially the untalented sid and the horribly rotten johnny. the latter's name suits him well.

anyhow, i'm hXc, which goes to say that i'm one of the more political and pacified punks. i do not believe in anarchy, much less think that it would be beneficial to us or even to our country, for that matter.

punk lifestyle (the way everyone knew it back then) sucks. i personally think so. then again, the culture was born amidst a ravaging stage in american or perhaps even a little of world history. i cannot blame them entirely, although i would have to say that they should've put more thought on their belief systems, especially as the years progressed. i'm mighty glad that hardcore, and later on straightedge philosophies emerged, for i wouldn't want to have anything to do with booze-loving, crack-brained, apolitical banes who do nothing but strike horror in this decaying world, as if we didn't have enough of it.

APIR.

[ June 24, 2003: Message edited by: apir.tayo.daming.poseur ]

Yeah... I only stared listening to them a few months ago. Tigas sila hehe.

Not really a huge punk fan but i think The Ramones are great pioneers of the genre.

APIR!
so what constitutes a punk lifestyle nowadays?

pineforest crunch - oo mabangis ang the ramones. napaka.

So what constitutes a punk rock lifestyle?

Dude, I could do a thesis on this. Before you talk about lifestyle, you gotta go back to the basics.

Punk rock is a revolution of sound and spirit that has pogoed and slam danced on rock’s fat ass forever changing music and pop culture. It’s a virulent indignation that has become a way of life (or a caricature according to pundits) and a major force in modern music. Lars Fredericksen of Rancid and his own side-band, the Bastards, describes punk as rebel music and a form of expression. And true enough, it has graduated from outright bellicosity to street fundamentalism that respected magazine Punk Planet inspires via awareness and cause-oriented efforts.

So where do you begin?

To early punks Iggy and the Stooges, MC5, the New York Dolls, the Dictators, and Patti Smith, the music was avant-garde. They took the unkempt look of the post Mersey beat sound of the Rolling Stones and the mad musings of Keith Moon and fused it with the fiery antics of Jim Morrison. It was anything unlike the post-Woodstock folk and psychedelia. Long and uncombed-hair, puffed domes and raggedy suits defined that look.

But it took the release of the Ramones’ first album where three-minute anthems condensed and packed with a sonic fury that provided a soundtrack to musings on sniffing glue, beating on brats and howling at the moon of star-crossed love affairs to change the world. Big Black frontman and Nirvana producer Steve Albini once remarked that The Ramones self-titled debut went from being “ridiculous, funny and dismissable to an amazing and total artistic experience.” Suddenly, the JD look was okay with ripped jeans, leather jackets, sunglasses, and chuck taylors or jackboots.

The Sex Pistols ripped that vision to shreds with their anarchic no future battle cry. The junkie look of body piercings and safety pins, torn clothing, mohawks, tattoos, and spikes and studs became badges of the tribe. If the Ramones encapsulated the hoodlum look, the Pistols with all their irreverence branded punks as public enemies.

Punk also begat the gothic look as popularized by Siouxsie and the Banshees. It was portended darkwave with its quasi-mystical approach.

Fugazi later sedated that raucous sound and look commonly associated with punk music by bringing back a more methodical approach to punk in the late 80s early 90s. The music was more deliberate and structured. In fact, it crossed over into reggae and ska giving birth to skacore.

Minor Threat and Bad Brains added blinding speed and more angst to the genre. And suddenly, the Mohawk and that raised fist seemed vogue again.

Rancid later brought back that blue-collar ethic with their stirring brand of music. This band started a bidding war on Wall Street that while it looked odd for men in Italian suits to be seen side by side with the tattooed mohawked love boys from SoCal, it was evidence that punk was now accepted in modern culture. Of course, Rancid eschewed major league glory for the artistic freedoms of indie la-la land.

So what is a lifestyle? It’s that rebellious spirit. It’s disturbing the peace and non-conformity. As Billie Joe Armstrong of Green day puts it, “It’s being a walking contradiction born out of friction and an anything-goes libertinism.”

So dude, whether you want to gob at the cops or freak out Opus Dei conservatives by looking like something that not even the cat would drag in, it’s your call. That’s the spirit of punk.

Gusto ko nga kunin lahat ng albums nila eh. Hehe.

Btw narinig ko yung version ni Rob Zombie ng Blitzkrieg Bop. Nothing can really come close to the original.

PANGET. P A N G E T yung version ni rob zombie. P A N G E T. maganda yung havana affair ng red hot. as well as rancid's version of sheena..

ewan ko kung anong klaseng school of thought kayo ng punk basta punk is all about being non-comforming and punk transcends time so that means a particular sound of punk becomes punk but would eventually evolve to another form because probably the sound is already conforming to the sounds of the times ... ika nga parang nomad ang punk .. pa-iba iba kasi kailangan niyang mag-iba para hindi siya magconform ...

kung ano man ang general sound ng punk dati may not be the general sound of punk ngayon pero we consider them punk pero iba na yung tawag .. katulad ng harcore, classical, new school .. parang ganun ..

Oh yeah, I heard the version of Sheena.
Maganda nga

System of a down is not punk !
it is a hardcore music !!!

punk is like THE CLASH, SEX PISTOLS and THE RAMONES.

Siouxsie and The Banshees is a Gothic band...Siouxsie Soux the vocalist played with Robert Smith before forming the band THe Cure.

there was no goth scene back then. if we're to assume that the candles, make up nad black stuff would constitute goth, then maybe we should lump in alice cooper with them.

punk rock doesn't necessarily mean the tattered clothing. patti smith wore dresses on stage! the ramones look in fact wasn't entriely theirs. the dead boys and the dictators wore leather jackets and jeans. heck, the clash at one point looked like latino guerillas.

and not just the clothing. no way will patti smith's music, then and now, sound like the abrasive punk music as we know it. her song "pissing in the river" will probably be the closest in terms of rowdiness.

the ruts and flying lizard were part of that scene were the banshees first came from. but if you ask me, the ruts (stuart adamson's band before forming big country) were closer to stiff little fingers in sound while the flying lizards were a cross between violent femmes and the b-52s.

so like the many artists that flocked under punk's banner back then, they all broke out on their own pushing the music to another level. this scene begat hardcore, ska-punk, goth and the two-tone movement. while skinheads were associated with punk earlier, by the time the two-tone movement was in full swing, a lot of these chrome domes were slamdancing to "nightboat to cairo."

...so what now makes things un-punk/non-punk? in the same way that makes blink182 non-punks even though they were influenced by the decendents and aa lot of older punk bands?

Let's Go Back in Time

Brave New World
Many u.g. veterans agree that the Philippine Underground Scene really started when the Brave New World concerts were held at Philcite in the early 80s. These concerts were organized and produced by Tommy Manotoc, then a teen punk rocker who was highly influenced by what was happening in London at that time.His band Third World Chaos together with other punk bands like WUDS, Dead Ends performed their originals in these gigs which was highly misunderstood by the mainstream Filipino rock scene. During the concerts, fights would usually occur since many hippies who joined the pogoing easily get piqued by the physical nature of the gigs. Eventually , punk became a byword in Manila.

Katrina's
If in the U.S. the punks had the Mabuhay Gardens, the Philippines had Katrina's. Although the place had a short lifespan, it ushered the development of new punk bands that played hardcore. Most notable of these bands were I.O.V and Betrayed.

Diversity
The indie scene continued to diversify and many punk purists hated the idea that the punk they once knew has mutated into other music forms. Aside from rockabilly, hardcore and new wave (which, at earlier times, was integrated into the punk scene with Jack Sikat's Ocean Zoo)gothic music gained popularity among female punks and at the same time new rock/college rock emerged as a more accessible form of punk to many underground scene followers.In the late 80s college rock band The Dawn was signed, eventually Identity Crisis, a gothic band followed suit. A late entry of ska and reggae in the u.g. scene ensued with the formation of Pinoy ska pioneers The Skavengers and reggae veterans Cocojam.
While punk in Manila held sway, Ethnic rock music became big in Davao. While it is true that the blueprint of this scene formation was done as early as 1982 with Joey Ayala's "Panganay ng Umaga" indie release it was not until post-Edsa when other Davao artists started to make their own music. Many of them had their songs released via the DEMS label in Davao.
As far as the writer of this article is informed, the late 80s also saw the rise of other underground bands on the other parts of the archepelago. In Cebu, a college rock band called 40 released an indie album. Many other bands in the main city of the Visayas were formed. In Tacloban City, My Weeping Days a band that played college rock were performing their own songs during anti-US bases rallies. Also, punk bands in Bacolod and Ilo-ilo were featured in the now defunct Jingle magazine, more notable of these bands were the Colloidal Mixtures and The Case of the Missing Bottles.

Satanism Scare
When many kids turned to hardcore in the late 80s many conservative groups of the Philippines like the fundamentalist churches and grandstanding politicians fanned rumors that punks were satanists who were out to kill children for their ceremonies. Of course the rumor died since it was nothing but a hilarious anxiety of ill informed old people and ABS-CBN didn't have shows like Pinoy Exposed and journalists like Korina Sanchez, Ted Pailon and Noli de Castro.

Chong vs. Hardcore
If during the Brave New World concerts it was okey for a new wave band like "Zoo" to perform with Oi and hardcore bands, the late 80s was the polarization of the punk scene. The punk purists decided to ostracize people who were into the more progressive type of punk. Maybe for the lack of term to describe this type of bands, the term chong was coined, punks used the word pejoratively to describe posers in the underground scene. Who was poser and who was not hasn't been pinpointed yet,......even until now.

Cross-Over
As the 1990s approached many punk bands fused metal with hardcore, thus thrashcore was formed, hardcore punk bands like I.O.V., Dead Ends and Deceased led this movement. Newer bands used double bass in their drum playing, stalwarts of this style was Discant X. As glam/big hair/hard rock dominated the mainstream, indie bands continued to mutate.Noise core was played by Smile Plenty, death metal was gaining a lot of support, and the college rock bands that played at Red Rocks/Club Dred were getting more audience. By 93, the great leap towards mainstream recognition of the indie/alternative bands occured....... Everybody knows what happened next.

I still remember the radio station that dares to be different DWXB 102.7
The Spirit Still Lives On !

Supreme Knight,
that was Tommy Tanchangco.

meron ng gothic music noon pa....nung nabuhay ang punk may gothic na. who told you na wala pa ? yung alice cooper at ac/dc na nakikita mo naka paint ang mukha eh metal ang category nila.
it doesn't mean may paint o drawing eh gothic na...yung music ang pinag uusapan dito, chong.

ay oo pala Tommy Tanchangco isa sa mga pasimuno ng twisted red cross dito sa pinas.

i beg to differ. there was no gothic scene then. goth was an offshoot and was called so for the insane need to constantly label and categorize music.

didnt he manage afterimage? or some pop band in the early-mid 90's

this was years after Twisted Red Cross of course.

Mga ilang local bands na ating tinitingala noon na ngayon ay legends na at yung iba nagpalit na ng pangalan.

UNDER BLUE SKIES
ETHNIC FACES
DEAN'S DECEMBER - Binky Lampano their Vox
IDENTITY CRISIS - Gothic
I.O.V.
R.D.A.
DEAD ENDS - malupit na punk band
BETRAYED - another punk band
IN THE DARK - mahilig mag cover ng Sister of Mercy at Bolshoi
SILOS - Smiths at REM ang hilig nila
PAGAN AWAY - all girl musicians
VIOLENT PLAYGROUND - i love this band. Who could forget "Never The Bright Lights" ?
THE DAWN - yung buhay pa si Teddy Diaz na guitarista na ginagawang violin ang Les Paul niya.
URBAN BANDITS - isa sa mga ganagaya naming tugtugan at fave kong "Maitim na putik konteng halamang buhay" Hehehehe...pudpod na kamay ko kaka gitara at pati yung tape ko pudpod na rin kaka play. Medyo nakilala konte ang banda namin dahil sa kanilang musika....hehehehe
SMILE PLENTY - mahilig mag cover ng Sonic
Youth. Nakita ko na sila sa Tandem kung saan pinamumugaran ng mga punkilitos at mga bollocks on the run....hehehe
SAKE - mga regular listeners ng WXB 102
alam nila ito. Lahat tumatalon pag naririnig ang "Prisoner of Darkness".
Yung drummer na si Paul Benites idolo ko...hehehe asan na kaya siya ngayon ?
CHERRY SUICIDE
NURSERY RHYMES - kasabayan ng Introvoys
ito...hehehehe. Mahilig din i-plug ng DZBM 105.1 Power Station.
G.I. AND THE IDIOTS - Underground na underground...mahilig sa mga lyrics na "Waaaah! Yeah! Ooooh ! Aaaah ! Zyrgrghhhh!! Bleemcht! Wala kayong naintindihan ? Ganyan din ang dating sa
akin pag bumanat sila. Pero PTANGNA ang galing ! Walang walang sinabi mga banda ngayon na nagpupumilit mag underground kahit palasak naman.
CHARLOTTE RUSSE - all feme band.
ARDOURN DELIRIUM - arch-rival ng Indentity
Crisis na naging ATHENA'S CURSE at ngayon
ay ALAMID na.
THE SEQUEL - remember the song " The Sign" ?
it goes like this ~give me the sign...why can't i open the latch~.....hehehehe

[ July 11, 2003: Message edited by: Supreme Knight ]