Real Madrid plays AC Milan this coming March 12 in a crucial Champions League qualifier. This game will be televised on March 13, 12pm and 6pm in ESPN.
AC Milan has qualified for the quarterfinals no matter what the outcome is in this game. Real Madrid must win to keep its Champions League hopes alive.
I hope Real Madrid can pull through.
Real Madrid FC
Goalkeepers
1 Iker Casillas 20.05.1981 Spain
13 César Sánchez 02.09.1971 Spain
25 Carlos Sánchez 19.01.1978 Spain
Defenders
2 Míchel Salgado 22.10.1975 Spain
3 Roberto Carlos 10.04.1973 Brazil
4 Fernando Hierro 23.03.1968 Spain
17 Oscar Miñambres 01.02.1981 Spain
22 Francisco Pavón 09.01.1980 Spain
29 Rubén González 29.01.1982 Spain
Midfielders
5 Zinedine Zidane 23.06.1972 France
6 Iván Helguera 28.03.1975 Spain
8 Steve McManaman 11.02.1972 England
10 Luis Figo 04.11.1972 Portugal
16 Flavio Conceição 12.06.1974 Brazil
19 Esteban Cambiasso 18.08.1980 Argentina
20 Albert Celades 29.09.1975 Spain
21 Santiago Solari 07.10.1976 Argentina
24 Claude Makelele 18.02.1973 France
27 Núñez 15.01.1979 Spain
Forwards
7 Raúl González 27.06.1977 Spain
9 Fernando Morientes 05.04.1976 Spain
11 Ronaldo 22.09.1976 Brazil
12 Tote 23.11.1978 Spain
14 Guti 31.10.1976 Spain
18 Javier Portillo 30.03.1982 Spain
Coach
Vicente del Bosque
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hehehe... kaya yan ng real madrid! they weren't named the Soccer Team of the Century for nothing!
hehehe!
hehehe... kaya yan ng real madrid! they weren't named the Soccer Team of the Century for nothing!
hehehe!
Kayang-kaya. Am wearing my black Adidas Centennial edition Real Madrid jersey as we "speak"...Ole ole ole ole ole ole....
BTW, did you know that they sent feelers for the possible acquisition of Beckham from Man U. ? This in the wake of Beckham's run-in with his manager, Grabe 'no? Yaman talaga...Figo,Zizou, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Guti and now, maybe even David Beckham on ONE TEAM!
BTW, did you know that they sent feelers for the possible acquisition of Beckham from Man U. ? This in the wake of Beckham's run-in with his manager, Grabe 'no? Yaman talaga...Figo,Zizou, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Guti and now, maybe even David Beckham on ONE TEAM!
Both Beckham and United deny a transfer move to Real. But, then again, there's no telling what that really means or whether or not the denial is only good until the end of the season.
Am not a really big fan of Real, but, in a dogfight between Barca and Real, I'll root for the guys wearing the white shirts!
Am not a really big fan of Real, but, in a dogfight between Barca and Real, I'll root for the guys wearing the white shirts!
daming stars.....
well, it's the team of the monarchy...
ronaldo pa rin!
well, it's the team of the monarchy...
ronaldo pa rin!
ahhh yes...Zidane. pero man u talaga ako hehehehe...pero real madrid is a good team. no question about that. 
hey Alberto Aguilera!
good thing you started this thread. although i'm more of a Barca fan, i still admire Real Madrid for its sheer talent. have you been following La Liga and the CL? Real are back on top of La Liga as Sociedad is starting to falter. It's too bad Barca isn't doing too well in the domestic league but they've been playing excellently in the CL.
btw, are you a member of PEX? there's much more european football talk over there (EPL, Serie A, Liga, Champions League).
good thing you started this thread. although i'm more of a Barca fan, i still admire Real Madrid for its sheer talent. have you been following La Liga and the CL? Real are back on top of La Liga as Sociedad is starting to falter. It's too bad Barca isn't doing too well in the domestic league but they've been playing excellently in the CL.
btw, are you a member of PEX? there's much more european football talk over there (EPL, Serie A, Liga, Champions League).
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Originally posted by Giant NRS2:
Kayang-kaya. Am wearing my black Adidas Centennial edition Real Madrid jersey as we "speak"...Ole ole ole ole ole ole....
BTW, did you know that they sent feelers for the possible acquisition of Beckham from Man U. ? This in the wake of Beckham's run-in with his manager, Grabe 'no? Yaman talaga...Figo,Zizou, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Guti and now, maybe even David Beckham on ONE TEAM!
Kayang-kaya. Am wearing my black Adidas Centennial edition Real Madrid jersey as we "speak"...Ole ole ole ole ole ole....
BTW, did you know that they sent feelers for the possible acquisition of Beckham from Man U. ? This in the wake of Beckham's run-in with his manager, Grabe 'no? Yaman talaga...Figo,Zizou, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Guti and now, maybe even David Beckham on ONE TEAM!
hey Giant NRS2! where'd you get your jersey?
So now they're after Beckham? Sheesh, I thought that signing Ronaldo was already overkill. The Raul - Morientes partnership up front was already working for Real Madrid, they DID NOT need Ronaldo. Morientes' career was going great at Real until Ronaldo stepped into the picture. Now Morientes is gone, what a waste of talent!! No, they definitely did not need Ronaldo, not when they have the up-and-coming Portillo who came from Real's youth system.
[ March 08, 2003: Message edited by: Kaiser8 ]
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Originally posted by Kaiser8:
hey [b]Alberto Aguilera!
good thing you started this thread. although i'm more of a Barca fan, i still admire Real Madrid for its sheer talent. have you been following La Liga and the CL? Real are back on top of La Liga as Sociedad is starting to falter. It's too bad Barca isn't doing too well in the domestic league but they've been playing excellently in the CL.
btw, are you a member of PEX? there's much more european football talk over there (EPL, Serie A, Liga, Champions League).[/B]
hey [b]Alberto Aguilera!
good thing you started this thread. although i'm more of a Barca fan, i still admire Real Madrid for its sheer talent. have you been following La Liga and the CL? Real are back on top of La Liga as Sociedad is starting to falter. It's too bad Barca isn't doing too well in the domestic league but they've been playing excellently in the CL.
btw, are you a member of PEX? there's much more european football talk over there (EPL, Serie A, Liga, Champions League).
[/B]Yes, I follow the CL and La Liga. I also like Barca and Atletico Madrid.
Speaking of Morrientes, I hear he is really unhappy in Real since Ronaldo has taken his minutes away. Portillo, as explained in the UEFA website, is being offered by your favorite Barca and Man U a place in the forward position. However, Portillo said he would like to stay in the Spanish Capital. The kid is only twenty years old. Real Madrid has had really good players rise from their youth team- some names include: Raul and Iker Casillas
[ March 10, 2003: Message edited by: Alberto Aguilera ]
From espnstar web site:
Defence central to Real's renaissance
MADRID, (AFP) - Last weekend Real Madrid assumed the leadership of the Spanish first division for the first time this season but injury worries against Saturday's visitors Racing Santander could put them back among the chasing pack. Central to the European and world club champions' problems is the fact that illness and injury has robbed them of every first team specialist in the middle of their back four.
Club captain Fernando Hierro has been out of action for four weeks with damaged knee ligaments and is not expected to return until the end of March.
His regular partner Ivan Helguera ended last Saturday's 5-1 victory at Alaves with a sprained right ankle and will miss Saturday's game.
Regular backup Francisco Pavon has had stomach problems this week and did not train on Thursday while Ruben Gonzalez is still recovering from a broken finger sustained in a reserve match.
"There's still plenty in the cupboard," said Real coach Vicente Del Bosque earlier this week, trying to put a brave face on the unusual situation.
However, Del Bosque must be regretting a little last summer's decision to unload no less than three central defenders - former Spanish internationals Ivan Campo and Aitor Karanka, and Brazilian Julio Cesar.
He is keeping his fingers crossed that either Pavon or Ruben, or perhaps both, will be passed fit to play Saturday although Cesar Navas has been called up from the reserves for a potiential first team debut.
Real's general manager Jorge Valdano has grudgingly admitted that not reinforcing the back four has been a mistake which, now a priority, they hope to rectify at the end of the season.
"It is a worry. Signings? Well, I like (Roma's Walter) Samuel and (Ajax's Christian) Chivu but their prices are prohibitive," he told local reporters.
Few pundits expect Real to actually go down to Racing after going 45 league games without losing in the Santiago Bernabeu, but a draw would open the door to both Real Sociedad and Valencia.
Real Madrid have 48 points from 24 games with second-placed Sociedad one point in arrears and Valencia another point further back in third.
Sociedad have only picked up four points from their last five games but remain unbeaten at home this season and the San Sebastian side will feel optimistic that they can rediscover their winning ways at the expense of fellow Basques Alaves on Sunday, who have conceded 11 goals in their last two games.
However Sociedad will be without their suspended right back Aitor Lopez Rekarte, who had played every minute of their 24 games to date, leaving his team mate Agustin Aranzabal as the only Spanish first division outfield player not to have lost a second of playing time this season.
Valencia are undefeated in their last eight games and play host to Atletico Madrid on Saturday.
"I think that in a few months from now, we are going to be celebrating again. It's not going to be easy, Madrid are very good and Deportivo (who are fourth with 45 points) have also sneaked up without making much noise, but the squad are starting to believe that we can win both the league and the Champions League," said Valencia's Spanish international David Albelda on Wednesday.
The reigning champions' task of sending Atletico back to the Spanish capital with their tails between their legs was made a little easier by Wednesday's announcement that the visitors' teenage wonder Fernando Torres would be out for the next two weeks with a strained hamstring.
Torres, despite still only being 18, has found the net 11 times this season.
Barcelona are still undefeated since Radomir Antic took over at the helm last month and have now gone eight games, including friendlies, without a loss.
The Catalan club will be looking to extend that streak against Valladolid on Saturday, hopefully in similar fashion to the 4-0 thrashing they inflicted on them last season.
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Defence central to Real's renaissance
MADRID, (AFP) - Last weekend Real Madrid assumed the leadership of the Spanish first division for the first time this season but injury worries against Saturday's visitors Racing Santander could put them back among the chasing pack. Central to the European and world club champions' problems is the fact that illness and injury has robbed them of every first team specialist in the middle of their back four.
Club captain Fernando Hierro has been out of action for four weeks with damaged knee ligaments and is not expected to return until the end of March.
His regular partner Ivan Helguera ended last Saturday's 5-1 victory at Alaves with a sprained right ankle and will miss Saturday's game.
Regular backup Francisco Pavon has had stomach problems this week and did not train on Thursday while Ruben Gonzalez is still recovering from a broken finger sustained in a reserve match.
"There's still plenty in the cupboard," said Real coach Vicente Del Bosque earlier this week, trying to put a brave face on the unusual situation.
However, Del Bosque must be regretting a little last summer's decision to unload no less than three central defenders - former Spanish internationals Ivan Campo and Aitor Karanka, and Brazilian Julio Cesar.
He is keeping his fingers crossed that either Pavon or Ruben, or perhaps both, will be passed fit to play Saturday although Cesar Navas has been called up from the reserves for a potiential first team debut.
Real's general manager Jorge Valdano has grudgingly admitted that not reinforcing the back four has been a mistake which, now a priority, they hope to rectify at the end of the season.
"It is a worry. Signings? Well, I like (Roma's Walter) Samuel and (Ajax's Christian) Chivu but their prices are prohibitive," he told local reporters.
Few pundits expect Real to actually go down to Racing after going 45 league games without losing in the Santiago Bernabeu, but a draw would open the door to both Real Sociedad and Valencia.
Real Madrid have 48 points from 24 games with second-placed Sociedad one point in arrears and Valencia another point further back in third.
Sociedad have only picked up four points from their last five games but remain unbeaten at home this season and the San Sebastian side will feel optimistic that they can rediscover their winning ways at the expense of fellow Basques Alaves on Sunday, who have conceded 11 goals in their last two games.
However Sociedad will be without their suspended right back Aitor Lopez Rekarte, who had played every minute of their 24 games to date, leaving his team mate Agustin Aranzabal as the only Spanish first division outfield player not to have lost a second of playing time this season.
Valencia are undefeated in their last eight games and play host to Atletico Madrid on Saturday.
"I think that in a few months from now, we are going to be celebrating again. It's not going to be easy, Madrid are very good and Deportivo (who are fourth with 45 points) have also sneaked up without making much noise, but the squad are starting to believe that we can win both the league and the Champions League," said Valencia's Spanish international David Albelda on Wednesday.
The reigning champions' task of sending Atletico back to the Spanish capital with their tails between their legs was made a little easier by Wednesday's announcement that the visitors' teenage wonder Fernando Torres would be out for the next two weeks with a strained hamstring.
Torres, despite still only being 18, has found the net 11 times this season.
Barcelona are still undefeated since Radomir Antic took over at the helm last month and have now gone eight games, including friendlies, without a loss.
The Catalan club will be looking to extend that streak against Valladolid on Saturday, hopefully in similar fashion to the 4-0 thrashing they inflicted on them last season.
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For the past few years, Real Madrid's main weakness has always been its defense. Every year they keep on signing expensive midfielders/strikers (e.g. Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo) but neglect to firm up their defense. I just don't get why they don't sign quality defensive players. For instance, instead of Ronaldo they could have pursued great defenders such as Thuram, Stam, or Nesta.
Regarding Morientes, the rift between him and Vicente del Bosque seems to be widening. In Real's last CL game, Morientes refused to go in the game as a last-minute sub and apparently swore at del Bosque. It looks like the club will sell Morientes once the season ends. Tottenham and Roma are rumored to be interested in him.
Regarding Morientes, the rift between him and Vicente del Bosque seems to be widening. In Real's last CL game, Morientes refused to go in the game as a last-minute sub and apparently swore at del Bosque. It looks like the club will sell Morientes once the season ends. Tottenham and Roma are rumored to be interested in him.
Hi Kaiser 8,
Pasalubong lang ng Nanay ko from HK
Mav,
Parang showbiz lang yan...deny muna tapos, ayun BUNTIS na pala...
Alberto,
Magbabago din isip nun! I think Tottenham will be too cold for him, and playing for Roma might be too much of a chore...what with the comfort of family and friends being close by while playing as a Madrista...
Pasalubong lang ng Nanay ko from HK
Mav,
Parang showbiz lang yan...deny muna tapos, ayun BUNTIS na pala...
Alberto,
Magbabago din isip nun! I think Tottenham will be too cold for him, and playing for Roma might be too much of a chore...what with the comfort of family and friends being close by while playing as a Madrista...
Beckham in Madrid will not be a good fit.
He plays in a central midfield role for United partnering for Ryan Giggs, who stays on the wing. If Beckham were to move to Madrid, he'd probably sit on the bench a lot with Figo and Zidane playing the starting central midfield roles. Of course, he could be used as an insurance policy for the aging Figo and injury-prone Zidane, but that's a lot of quality minutes he'll be letting slip by by riding the bench.
Another rumour has it that Ryan Giggs is off to Inter Milan in the off-season. Of course, United deny this; but, if this is true, then United need Beckham more than ever to anchor that midfield. Giggs is pretty hard to replace and you need some leadership and experience there to steady the sometimes neurotic United midfield and backline.
Lastly, for some reason, English players historically don't do to well in Spain. Case in point: Steve McManaman. When he was at Liverpool, McManaman was a force to reckon with on the wing. Now, in Barca, he's more of a support player for the Dutch boys at the Nou Camp. Can't even crack a place on the English team as a substitute! Somehow, the rapid-fire running of the English game does not translate well in the Primera Liga.
So, Beckham, I think, is better off where he is. Besides, United need him to balance off Arsenal.
He plays in a central midfield role for United partnering for Ryan Giggs, who stays on the wing. If Beckham were to move to Madrid, he'd probably sit on the bench a lot with Figo and Zidane playing the starting central midfield roles. Of course, he could be used as an insurance policy for the aging Figo and injury-prone Zidane, but that's a lot of quality minutes he'll be letting slip by by riding the bench.
Another rumour has it that Ryan Giggs is off to Inter Milan in the off-season. Of course, United deny this; but, if this is true, then United need Beckham more than ever to anchor that midfield. Giggs is pretty hard to replace and you need some leadership and experience there to steady the sometimes neurotic United midfield and backline.
Lastly, for some reason, English players historically don't do to well in Spain. Case in point: Steve McManaman. When he was at Liverpool, McManaman was a force to reckon with on the wing. Now, in Barca, he's more of a support player for the Dutch boys at the Nou Camp. Can't even crack a place on the English team as a substitute! Somehow, the rapid-fire running of the English game does not translate well in the Primera Liga.
So, Beckham, I think, is better off where he is. Besides, United need him to balance off Arsenal.
Agree with you on all points.
It's just that going by Real Madrid's record, issues such as talent rotting on the bench, never bothered their deep pockets at all.
In any case, I'm with you on the need to balance Arsenal-- that's why Man U poached Rio Ferdinand in the first place!
BTW, what do you think are the chances of a dream Real Madrid v. Man U final? Parang Euro footie version ng Ateneo-La Salle
It's just that going by Real Madrid's record, issues such as talent rotting on the bench, never bothered their deep pockets at all.
In any case, I'm with you on the need to balance Arsenal-- that's why Man U poached Rio Ferdinand in the first place!
BTW, what do you think are the chances of a dream Real Madrid v. Man U final? Parang Euro footie version ng Ateneo-La Salle
GiantNRS2,
I agree with your observations.
If you've got a rich club like Real Madrid, one way to really eliminate the opposition is to load your bench with talent and deprive their services from other clubs. It's the entire "big fish eating the little fish" paradigm that most pundits are saying is weakening the structure of European football. But, then again, United is no little fish. If it chooses, United can go toe to toe with Real in a bidding war. Question is, will it? My guess is that it will for Beckham. Although the United youth system is pretty impressive, it will take them some time to grind out another Beckham and make him mature enough to lead the team. At this point, United need Beckham and Beckham would be a fool for leaving a sure spot on the United team for a spot on the bench on Real. Besides, why waste the best playing years of your life fighting for a spot on a team in a new country when you can continue being the co-captain of a club that's a perennial Champions League contender?
Regarding Ferdinand, I thought that it was a good (though expensive) move getting this guy. United's defence of late has been terrible and the only reason that they win is that they score more goals than they give up (the Brazilan paradigm). The fact that they have a certified loonie in the goal doesn't help much either!
So, when they got Ferdinand, I thought that at least there would be some steadying influence there. Unfortunately, he's been a dud so far. Too much expectations and baggage from the move from Leeds. We hope for the best though. He better show some ROI soon for his sake.
Finally, a United - Real head to head in the Finals? Why not! I don't really know how the draw is set up, but that would be a helluva game to watch -- game for the ages. On paper, Real seems to have the advantage. But, as Kaiser8 pointed out the Real defense is pretty shaky and poachers like Van Nistelrooy and Solskjaer can step up. You just have to remember the 1999 Finals to believe. Here's to a Real - United clash at Old Trafford in May!
United - Real comparisons to Ateneo - La Salle? I think in this case, Real is Ateneo -- winning tradition, most number of Champions League trophies, success in the 50's and 60's but a long line of quiet years until the late 90's -- while United is more like La Salle -- a few championships in the 60's then a whole string of them in the 90's, great youth recruitment system, team built around the coach, club that's great at business. Well, in this case, I'll have to side with the proto-Lasallites. Am too much of a Red Devil to let go!
[ March 10, 2003: Message edited by: Maverick ]
I agree with your observations.
If you've got a rich club like Real Madrid, one way to really eliminate the opposition is to load your bench with talent and deprive their services from other clubs. It's the entire "big fish eating the little fish" paradigm that most pundits are saying is weakening the structure of European football. But, then again, United is no little fish. If it chooses, United can go toe to toe with Real in a bidding war. Question is, will it? My guess is that it will for Beckham. Although the United youth system is pretty impressive, it will take them some time to grind out another Beckham and make him mature enough to lead the team. At this point, United need Beckham and Beckham would be a fool for leaving a sure spot on the United team for a spot on the bench on Real. Besides, why waste the best playing years of your life fighting for a spot on a team in a new country when you can continue being the co-captain of a club that's a perennial Champions League contender?
Regarding Ferdinand, I thought that it was a good (though expensive) move getting this guy. United's defence of late has been terrible and the only reason that they win is that they score more goals than they give up (the Brazilan paradigm). The fact that they have a certified loonie in the goal doesn't help much either!
So, when they got Ferdinand, I thought that at least there would be some steadying influence there. Unfortunately, he's been a dud so far. Too much expectations and baggage from the move from Leeds. We hope for the best though. He better show some ROI soon for his sake.
Finally, a United - Real head to head in the Finals? Why not! I don't really know how the draw is set up, but that would be a helluva game to watch -- game for the ages. On paper, Real seems to have the advantage. But, as Kaiser8 pointed out the Real defense is pretty shaky and poachers like Van Nistelrooy and Solskjaer can step up. You just have to remember the 1999 Finals to believe. Here's to a Real - United clash at Old Trafford in May!
United - Real comparisons to Ateneo - La Salle? I think in this case, Real is Ateneo -- winning tradition, most number of Champions League trophies, success in the 50's and 60's but a long line of quiet years until the late 90's -- while United is more like La Salle -- a few championships in the 60's then a whole string of them in the 90's, great youth recruitment system, team built around the coach, club that's great at business. Well, in this case, I'll have to side with the proto-Lasallites. Am too much of a Red Devil to let go!
[ March 10, 2003: Message edited by: Maverick ]
uh oh...
Ronaldo COULD MISS the CL game against Milan. Medical reasons once again...
Then of course there's Helguerra who has a second degree strain... ALTHOUGH... he will try to play... hmmm... i think he has begun training again with Real.
Pavon's still recovering from the flu, Hierro's still recovering din...
everything seems to be happening to the defenders...
on a good note, though, they did win against Racing Santander, 4-1...
THE MATCH:
4 - REAL MADRID: Casillas; Salgado, Pavón, Rubén, Roberto Carlos; Makelele, Flavio (Guti, 66’), Figo, Zidane (Figo, 80’); Raúl y Ronaldo (Portillo, 46’).
1 - RACING: Lemmens; Corominas, Mora, Juanma, Neru; Nafti, Diego (Benayoun, 46’), Pineda, Txiki (Regueiro, 46’), Javi Guerrero; Bodipo (Ismael, 36').
REFEREE: Mejuto González, Asturias Referee Association. Yellow cards to Javi Guerrero (55’), Rubén (58’), Pineda (64’) and Neru (73’).
GOALSS:
1-0: Min. 12: Figo, penalti on Ronaldo.
2-0: Min. 42: Figo’s centre shot to the far post and Zidane beats the visiting keeper with a header.
2-1: Min. 47: Nafti, from outside the area, his shot brushed Rubén.
3-1 Min. 77: Portillo, in a counterattack, from Raúl’s death pass.
4-1: Min. 88: Guti, with the incide of this left leg. A great target.
OTHER FACTS: Santiago Bernabéu Stadium. Nearly full. Liga Matchday 25. Field of play in perfect condition. Warm temperature typical of spring.
Ronaldo COULD MISS the CL game against Milan. Medical reasons once again...
Then of course there's Helguerra who has a second degree strain... ALTHOUGH... he will try to play... hmmm... i think he has begun training again with Real.
Pavon's still recovering from the flu, Hierro's still recovering din...
everything seems to be happening to the defenders...
on a good note, though, they did win against Racing Santander, 4-1...
THE MATCH:
4 - REAL MADRID: Casillas; Salgado, Pavón, Rubén, Roberto Carlos; Makelele, Flavio (Guti, 66’), Figo, Zidane (Figo, 80’); Raúl y Ronaldo (Portillo, 46’).
1 - RACING: Lemmens; Corominas, Mora, Juanma, Neru; Nafti, Diego (Benayoun, 46’), Pineda, Txiki (Regueiro, 46’), Javi Guerrero; Bodipo (Ismael, 36').
REFEREE: Mejuto González, Asturias Referee Association. Yellow cards to Javi Guerrero (55’), Rubén (58’), Pineda (64’) and Neru (73’).
GOALSS:
1-0: Min. 12: Figo, penalti on Ronaldo.
2-0: Min. 42: Figo’s centre shot to the far post and Zidane beats the visiting keeper with a header.
2-1: Min. 47: Nafti, from outside the area, his shot brushed Rubén.
3-1 Min. 77: Portillo, in a counterattack, from Raúl’s death pass.
4-1: Min. 88: Guti, with the incide of this left leg. A great target.
OTHER FACTS: Santiago Bernabéu Stadium. Nearly full. Liga Matchday 25. Field of play in perfect condition. Warm temperature typical of spring.
Regarding Beckham, my guess is he'll remain in ManU coz that's where he is best suited. If he goes to Real, he'll just be the next McManaman and end up riding the bench. Beckham and Sir Alex might not be the best of buddies (case in point - Sir Alex "accidentally" kicking a boot to Beck's face in the locker room and later on calling him "a bit flashy") but I believe he's just too good of a player to let go of. Also, I think ManU will not risk the wrath of Beckham fanatics (many of whom are teenage girls) should they decide to sell him.
While a Madrid-ManU CL final would be great, I would love to see a Madrid-Barcelona final. The long-standing and fierce rivalry between the two teams and its supporters would make this game one helluva final. If you thought the Liga matches between these two powerhouses were intense (e.g. Figo being pelted by water bottles and being cursed endlessly at the Nou Camp while taking a corner kick), then imagine what a CL final would be like.
While a Madrid-ManU CL final would be great, I would love to see a Madrid-Barcelona final. The long-standing and fierce rivalry between the two teams and its supporters would make this game one helluva final. If you thought the Liga matches between these two powerhouses were intense (e.g. Figo being pelted by water bottles and being cursed endlessly at the Nou Camp while taking a corner kick), then imagine what a CL final would be like.
Yo Kaiser8!
Point taken. However, I'm too much of a Real Madrid fan to want to see Barca make it to the finals. Truth to tell, I revel in the current difficulties they are encountering in La Liga...That's why their Champion's League performance is a bit of a surprise to me
At any rate, if Barca by some stroke of fate, make the La Liga finals, then it would be fantastic to see them tangle with RMad. Champion's League? Parang ManU ang gusto kong katapat.
As Maverick so astutely put it, there's a bit of history and tradition on both sides-- track records of success, all-out management support, incredibly supportive fans, etc. I will differ with him on one point though, let such a match NOT BE HELD IN OLD TRAFFORD!
Mahirap na, baka masilat pa
Madrid in the summer is so much more pleasant than foggy London...
[ March 12, 2003: Message edited by: Giant NRS2 ]
Point taken. However, I'm too much of a Real Madrid fan to want to see Barca make it to the finals. Truth to tell, I revel in the current difficulties they are encountering in La Liga...That's why their Champion's League performance is a bit of a surprise to me
At any rate, if Barca by some stroke of fate, make the La Liga finals, then it would be fantastic to see them tangle with RMad. Champion's League? Parang ManU ang gusto kong katapat.
As Maverick so astutely put it, there's a bit of history and tradition on both sides-- track records of success, all-out management support, incredibly supportive fans, etc. I will differ with him on one point though, let such a match NOT BE HELD IN OLD TRAFFORD!
Mahirap na, baka masilat pa
Madrid in the summer is so much more pleasant than foggy London...
[ March 12, 2003: Message edited by: Giant NRS2 ]
If ever there will be a Real - Barca Final in the Champions League, I agree with GinatNRS2 that that game should not be at Old Trafford. Keep it somewhere in Spain where it belongs (on the Canary Islands, perhaps). The last thing Manchester needs is a bunch of Madrilenos and Catalans running rampant in the city. Besides, the atmosphere in Spain for such a game would be electric!
Yes, I think the Real Madrid - Barcelona football rivalry is the most intense in world sports.
The last time Real and Barca met in the Nou Camp, the Catalans went absolutely nuts with Figo. Over emotional Barca fans pelted the sensational Portuguese midfilelder with water and wine bottles as well as a "lechon de leche" head.
A Real Madrid- Barca, ManU, or AC Milan final is possible. My money will be on a Real Madrid-AC Milan Champions League Finale.
BTW, Real Madrid and Barcelona will play in the Bernabeu 1st week of April in the second round of La Liga action. The 1st round meeting of these 2 Spanish giants resulted in a zero all draw.I hope ESPN covers this match!!! Also, don't miss the Real- Milan game this Thursday March 13, 12pm and 6pm ESPN.
HALA MADRID!
The last time Real and Barca met in the Nou Camp, the Catalans went absolutely nuts with Figo. Over emotional Barca fans pelted the sensational Portuguese midfilelder with water and wine bottles as well as a "lechon de leche" head.
A Real Madrid- Barca, ManU, or AC Milan final is possible. My money will be on a Real Madrid-AC Milan Champions League Finale.
BTW, Real Madrid and Barcelona will play in the Bernabeu 1st week of April in the second round of La Liga action. The 1st round meeting of these 2 Spanish giants resulted in a zero all draw.I hope ESPN covers this match!!! Also, don't miss the Real- Milan game this Thursday March 13, 12pm and 6pm ESPN.
HALA MADRID!
for those who are interested:
PHASE TWO SQUAD PROFILES:
• Group A: Barcelona | Bayer Leverkusen | Inter Milan | Newcastle
• Group B: Ajax Amsterdam | Arsenal | AS Roma | Valencia
• Group C: AC Milan | Borussia Dortmund | L Moscow | Real Madrid
• Group D: Basle | Deportivo | Juventus | Manchester Utd
eto naman yung kalaban ng real:
AC Milan - Squad Profiles
Dida (goalkeeper)
Born:: 07.10.73
Nationality: Brazilian
Dida's Milan career seemed effectively over after a horrific mistake gifted Leeds United a winner in a Champions League tie at Elland Road in September 1999.
He was sent on loan to Corinthians in his homeland and then Swiss side Lugano. But last summer, he was back at Milan as the understudy to Abbiati and when the latter was injured in pre-season, he deputised so capably that he became the number one. Non-playing member of Brazil's World Cup-winning squad in 2002.
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Group A: Barcelona | Bayer Leverkusen | Inter Milan | Newcastle
Group B: Ajax Amsterdam | Arsenal | AS Roma | Valencia
Group C: AC Milan | Borussia Dortmund | L Moscow | Real Madrid
Group D: Basle | Deportivo | Juventus | Manchester Utd
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Christian Abbiati (goalkeeper)
Born:: 08.07.77
Nationality: Italian
His country's third-choice keeper at Euro 2000 and World Cup 2002, he has been relegated to the Milan bench as a result of the renaissance of Dida.
Exploded on the Serie A scene in the 1998-99 season, beginning the campaign as an unknown and ending it with a League title.
He may have a long wait for a first team chance at the San Siro and a move seems likely unless than changes in the near future.
Jose Chamot (defender)
Born:: 17.05.69
Nationality: Argentine
Uncompromising, highly-experienced centre-back or full-back who is confined to a back-up role these days.
Joined Milan in 1999 from Atletico Madrid and has also played for Rosario Central, Pisa, Foggia and Lazio.
With forty-two caps for Argentina, there are few more experienced battlers in this Champions League and he is the sort of cog that allows the stars in the team to sparkle.
Alessandro Costacurta (defender)
Born: 24.04.66
Nationality: Italian
Along with Paolo Maldini, veteran central defender 'Billy' is the one surviving member of the great Milan side of the late 80s and early 90s.
Last summer it looked as though he was on his way to Parma, that his 15-year association with the club was coming to an end, but at the eleventh-hour, the Milan management offered him a contract extension.
A great source of know-how on the bench, he is always useful being sent on to do a job late in a game.
Thomas Helveg (defender)
Born:: 24.06.71
Nationality: Danish
While he has had some injury problems this term, Helveg still has much to offer, especially his solid tackling, good support play and crossing ability.
A regular for Denmark at the last World Cup, he has over 70 international caps to his credit and has rarely had a bad day for club or country. He is the sort of consistent performer any manager wants in his side.
Kakha Kaladze (defender)
Born:: 27.02.78
Nationality: Georgian
Though he has experience as a central defender and in midfield, coach Carlo Ancelotti prefers him at left-back, where he has been performing well this season.
Joined Milan from Kyiv Dynamo in early 2001 and he has been a useful squad man ever since. Kaladze began his career at Dinamo Tbilisi and has proved he has the class to fit into the tough world of Serie A.
Martin Laursen (defender)
Born:: 26.07.77
Nationality: Danish
The arrival of Italian international centre-back Alessando Nesta has pushed him down the pecking order and reports suggest Milan may be tempted to sell the Dame.
Nevertheless, he is a fine young stopper, a good marker, strong in the air and a dangerous customer when he goes up for corners.
Signed in the summer of 2001, he has only been a bit-part players in his year and a half at the San Siro.
Paolo Maldini (defender)
Born:: 26.06.68
Nationality: Italian
Announced his retirement from the Italian national team after World Cup 2002, calling time on a wonderful international career in which he won 124 caps and skippered them with his customary style.
His natural habitat used to be the left-back spot but he is now playing in central defence, where he is forging an excellent partnership with Nesta. Made his Serie A debut for Milan aged just 16 in 1985 and widely regarded as the best full-back to have played the game.
Alessandro Nesta (defender)
Born:: 19.03.76
Nationality: Italian
Outstanding central defender, who left Lazio for Milan this summer in a £20 million deal, thus putting an end to weeks of speculation that he was headed for Juventus or Inter.
A heady mixture of the elegant and the steely, he spent nine seasons at the heart of the Lazio back-line and probably would never have departed the Eternal City if the club had not been hit by a cash crisis.
Had a decent World Cup during the summer, but there is no doubting the quality of this powerful performer.
Dario Simic (defender)
Born:: 12.11.75
Nationality: Croat
A defender of the tough-tackling and totally committed variety, he has been a central defensive marker for most of his career.
But after leaving Inter for their arch-rivals Milan in the close season, Ancelotti opted to switch him to right-back as a replacement for the injured Helveg and it has worked out well.
Played a role in Croatia's World Cup campaign during the summer, but he wasn't as prominent as he would have liked in the tournament.
Massimo Ambrosini (midfielder)
Born:: 29.05.77
Nationality: Italian
All-action midfielder who has suffered more than his fair share of injuries in recent years and is now finding the competition stiff for places in the Milan engine room.
A full Italian international, he combines ball-winning ability, never-say-die spirit and energetic thrusts into opposition territory.
Not one of the stars of this team, he was sent off against Lazio in a Serie A game earlier this season. Signed from Vicenza in 1998.
Gennaro Gatuso (midfielder)
Born:: 09.01.78
Nationality: Italian
Gritty little midfield battler and a big crowd favourite at the San Siro. Gatuso used to be employed in central midfield but this season he is to be found on the right-side.
With Milan since 1999, he has also worn the colours of Perugia and Salernitana in Italy, as well as Glasgow Rangers from 1997 to 1998.
A regular in the starting line-up for this club, he has also made his mark at international level and played in last summer's World Cup finals.
Andrea Pirlo (midfielder)
Born:: 19.05.79
Nationality: Italian
A revelation for Milan this term in a deep-lying midfield role, he is the organiser-in chief of their approach play, rarely wasting a pass and playing with an abundance of guile and vision.
A former star of the Italian Under 21s and often compared to Roberto Baggio, he is at last fulfilling his huge potential.
Ex-Brescia, Inter and Reggina, Pirlo gets on the wrong side of referees from time to time and was sent off against Chievo in Serie A earlier this season.
Rui Costa (midfielder)
Born:: 29.03.72
Nationality: Portuguese
One of the most talented players to emerge from Portugal in recent years, Costa is a high-class playmaker and devastating dribbler.
Moved to Milan from Fiorentina at the start of last season for £28 million but experienced a nightmare first season at his new club, suffering a string of injuries and generally failing to convince when on the pitch.
Back to his imperious best this term, he was in good form during the first phase of the Champions League.
Clarence Seedorf (midfielder)
Born:: 01.04.76
Nationality: Dutch
A versatile, skilful and experienced midfielder who can play out wide or through the middle, he joined Milan from Inter this summer in a swap deal which saw Italian international wing-back Francisco Coco go in the opposite direction.
Has already won two Champions League Finals, first with Ajax in 1995 and Real Madrid in 1998. Scored a fine goal in Milan's impressive 4-0 away with at Deportivo in the first phase of this competition.
Serginho (midfielder)
Born:: 27.06.71
Nationality: Brazilian
Left-sided midfielder with pace to burn, exceptional dribbling and crossing ability. However, he can be erratic and his form has been up and down in the last year.
Joined Milan from Brazilian side Sao Paulo in 1999 and recently made waves in his homeland by refusing a call-up to the national team.
He can also slot into a defensive berth when required and scored against Bayern Munich during the first phase of the Champions League.
Filippo Inzaghi (forward)
Born:: 09.08.73
Nationality: Italian
This classic goal poacher has been Milan's in-form player this season, tucking away chance after chance at home and in Europe. Renowned for his sharpness in the box, he moved to Milan in a £26 million deal from Juventus in the summer of 2001.
Nicknamed 'Pippo', he is the elder brother of Lazio striker, Simone.
After a tough World Cup during the summer, this gifted forward has proved his worth in the Champions League with a stunning eight goals in the first phase, including a great hat-trick against Deportivo.
Rivaldo (forward)
Born:: 19.04.72
Nationality: Brazilian
When his contract was cancelled by Barcelona this summer, Milan could not resist the temptation to buy the multi-talented attacking midfielder or front runner on a free transfer, though Rivaldo will cost them £3 million a year in wages.
Arguably Brazil's best player at World Cup 2002, scoring five goals and turning on the magic throughout, he is a master of his art.
Rivaldo has produced moments of brilliance for his new club, but the Champions League has yet to see the best of the great Rivaldo this season.
Andrii Shevchenko (forward)
Born:: 29.09.76
Nationality: Ukrainian
Some are tipping the ex-Kyiv Dynamo marksman extraordinaire to move on soon.
After recovering from a summer knee operation, he has not started as often as he would like and should he become available there will be plenty of takers for his speed of the mark, awareness and rare finishing ability.
Joined Milan from Kyiv in 1999 and scored goals a plenty in his first couple of seasons. The stunning form of Pippo Inzaghi means first team chances may be limited for Shevchenko.
Jon Dahl Tomasson (forward)
Born:: 29.08.76
Nationality: Danish
Forget his mediocre displays at Newcastle United in the 1997-98 campaign as this striker has more than proved himself in the years since.
At his next club, Feyenoord, he improved dramatically and after underlining his growing reputation with four goals at World Cup 2002, Milan were more than happy to take him on a Bosman free in the close season.
A composed taker of chances and at his best operating behind the strikers. Scored against Deportivo in the first phase of the Champions League.
PHASE TWO SQUAD PROFILES:
• Group A: Barcelona | Bayer Leverkusen | Inter Milan | Newcastle
• Group B: Ajax Amsterdam | Arsenal | AS Roma | Valencia
• Group C: AC Milan | Borussia Dortmund | L Moscow | Real Madrid
• Group D: Basle | Deportivo | Juventus | Manchester Utd
eto naman yung kalaban ng real:
AC Milan - Squad Profiles
Dida (goalkeeper)
Born:: 07.10.73
Nationality: Brazilian
Dida's Milan career seemed effectively over after a horrific mistake gifted Leeds United a winner in a Champions League tie at Elland Road in September 1999.
He was sent on loan to Corinthians in his homeland and then Swiss side Lugano. But last summer, he was back at Milan as the understudy to Abbiati and when the latter was injured in pre-season, he deputised so capably that he became the number one. Non-playing member of Brazil's World Cup-winning squad in 2002.
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Group A: Barcelona | Bayer Leverkusen | Inter Milan | Newcastle
Group B: Ajax Amsterdam | Arsenal | AS Roma | Valencia
Group C: AC Milan | Borussia Dortmund | L Moscow | Real Madrid
Group D: Basle | Deportivo | Juventus | Manchester Utd
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Christian Abbiati (goalkeeper)
Born:: 08.07.77
Nationality: Italian
His country's third-choice keeper at Euro 2000 and World Cup 2002, he has been relegated to the Milan bench as a result of the renaissance of Dida.
Exploded on the Serie A scene in the 1998-99 season, beginning the campaign as an unknown and ending it with a League title.
He may have a long wait for a first team chance at the San Siro and a move seems likely unless than changes in the near future.
Jose Chamot (defender)
Born:: 17.05.69
Nationality: Argentine
Uncompromising, highly-experienced centre-back or full-back who is confined to a back-up role these days.
Joined Milan in 1999 from Atletico Madrid and has also played for Rosario Central, Pisa, Foggia and Lazio.
With forty-two caps for Argentina, there are few more experienced battlers in this Champions League and he is the sort of cog that allows the stars in the team to sparkle.
Alessandro Costacurta (defender)
Born: 24.04.66
Nationality: Italian
Along with Paolo Maldini, veteran central defender 'Billy' is the one surviving member of the great Milan side of the late 80s and early 90s.
Last summer it looked as though he was on his way to Parma, that his 15-year association with the club was coming to an end, but at the eleventh-hour, the Milan management offered him a contract extension.
A great source of know-how on the bench, he is always useful being sent on to do a job late in a game.
Thomas Helveg (defender)
Born:: 24.06.71
Nationality: Danish
While he has had some injury problems this term, Helveg still has much to offer, especially his solid tackling, good support play and crossing ability.
A regular for Denmark at the last World Cup, he has over 70 international caps to his credit and has rarely had a bad day for club or country. He is the sort of consistent performer any manager wants in his side.
Kakha Kaladze (defender)
Born:: 27.02.78
Nationality: Georgian
Though he has experience as a central defender and in midfield, coach Carlo Ancelotti prefers him at left-back, where he has been performing well this season.
Joined Milan from Kyiv Dynamo in early 2001 and he has been a useful squad man ever since. Kaladze began his career at Dinamo Tbilisi and has proved he has the class to fit into the tough world of Serie A.
Martin Laursen (defender)
Born:: 26.07.77
Nationality: Danish
The arrival of Italian international centre-back Alessando Nesta has pushed him down the pecking order and reports suggest Milan may be tempted to sell the Dame.
Nevertheless, he is a fine young stopper, a good marker, strong in the air and a dangerous customer when he goes up for corners.
Signed in the summer of 2001, he has only been a bit-part players in his year and a half at the San Siro.
Paolo Maldini (defender)
Born:: 26.06.68
Nationality: Italian
Announced his retirement from the Italian national team after World Cup 2002, calling time on a wonderful international career in which he won 124 caps and skippered them with his customary style.
His natural habitat used to be the left-back spot but he is now playing in central defence, where he is forging an excellent partnership with Nesta. Made his Serie A debut for Milan aged just 16 in 1985 and widely regarded as the best full-back to have played the game.
Alessandro Nesta (defender)
Born:: 19.03.76
Nationality: Italian
Outstanding central defender, who left Lazio for Milan this summer in a £20 million deal, thus putting an end to weeks of speculation that he was headed for Juventus or Inter.
A heady mixture of the elegant and the steely, he spent nine seasons at the heart of the Lazio back-line and probably would never have departed the Eternal City if the club had not been hit by a cash crisis.
Had a decent World Cup during the summer, but there is no doubting the quality of this powerful performer.
Dario Simic (defender)
Born:: 12.11.75
Nationality: Croat
A defender of the tough-tackling and totally committed variety, he has been a central defensive marker for most of his career.
But after leaving Inter for their arch-rivals Milan in the close season, Ancelotti opted to switch him to right-back as a replacement for the injured Helveg and it has worked out well.
Played a role in Croatia's World Cup campaign during the summer, but he wasn't as prominent as he would have liked in the tournament.
Massimo Ambrosini (midfielder)
Born:: 29.05.77
Nationality: Italian
All-action midfielder who has suffered more than his fair share of injuries in recent years and is now finding the competition stiff for places in the Milan engine room.
A full Italian international, he combines ball-winning ability, never-say-die spirit and energetic thrusts into opposition territory.
Not one of the stars of this team, he was sent off against Lazio in a Serie A game earlier this season. Signed from Vicenza in 1998.
Gennaro Gatuso (midfielder)
Born:: 09.01.78
Nationality: Italian
Gritty little midfield battler and a big crowd favourite at the San Siro. Gatuso used to be employed in central midfield but this season he is to be found on the right-side.
With Milan since 1999, he has also worn the colours of Perugia and Salernitana in Italy, as well as Glasgow Rangers from 1997 to 1998.
A regular in the starting line-up for this club, he has also made his mark at international level and played in last summer's World Cup finals.
Andrea Pirlo (midfielder)
Born:: 19.05.79
Nationality: Italian
A revelation for Milan this term in a deep-lying midfield role, he is the organiser-in chief of their approach play, rarely wasting a pass and playing with an abundance of guile and vision.
A former star of the Italian Under 21s and often compared to Roberto Baggio, he is at last fulfilling his huge potential.
Ex-Brescia, Inter and Reggina, Pirlo gets on the wrong side of referees from time to time and was sent off against Chievo in Serie A earlier this season.
Rui Costa (midfielder)
Born:: 29.03.72
Nationality: Portuguese
One of the most talented players to emerge from Portugal in recent years, Costa is a high-class playmaker and devastating dribbler.
Moved to Milan from Fiorentina at the start of last season for £28 million but experienced a nightmare first season at his new club, suffering a string of injuries and generally failing to convince when on the pitch.
Back to his imperious best this term, he was in good form during the first phase of the Champions League.
Clarence Seedorf (midfielder)
Born:: 01.04.76
Nationality: Dutch
A versatile, skilful and experienced midfielder who can play out wide or through the middle, he joined Milan from Inter this summer in a swap deal which saw Italian international wing-back Francisco Coco go in the opposite direction.
Has already won two Champions League Finals, first with Ajax in 1995 and Real Madrid in 1998. Scored a fine goal in Milan's impressive 4-0 away with at Deportivo in the first phase of this competition.
Serginho (midfielder)
Born:: 27.06.71
Nationality: Brazilian
Left-sided midfielder with pace to burn, exceptional dribbling and crossing ability. However, he can be erratic and his form has been up and down in the last year.
Joined Milan from Brazilian side Sao Paulo in 1999 and recently made waves in his homeland by refusing a call-up to the national team.
He can also slot into a defensive berth when required and scored against Bayern Munich during the first phase of the Champions League.
Filippo Inzaghi (forward)
Born:: 09.08.73
Nationality: Italian
This classic goal poacher has been Milan's in-form player this season, tucking away chance after chance at home and in Europe. Renowned for his sharpness in the box, he moved to Milan in a £26 million deal from Juventus in the summer of 2001.
Nicknamed 'Pippo', he is the elder brother of Lazio striker, Simone.
After a tough World Cup during the summer, this gifted forward has proved his worth in the Champions League with a stunning eight goals in the first phase, including a great hat-trick against Deportivo.
Rivaldo (forward)
Born:: 19.04.72
Nationality: Brazilian
When his contract was cancelled by Barcelona this summer, Milan could not resist the temptation to buy the multi-talented attacking midfielder or front runner on a free transfer, though Rivaldo will cost them £3 million a year in wages.
Arguably Brazil's best player at World Cup 2002, scoring five goals and turning on the magic throughout, he is a master of his art.
Rivaldo has produced moments of brilliance for his new club, but the Champions League has yet to see the best of the great Rivaldo this season.
Andrii Shevchenko (forward)
Born:: 29.09.76
Nationality: Ukrainian
Some are tipping the ex-Kyiv Dynamo marksman extraordinaire to move on soon.
After recovering from a summer knee operation, he has not started as often as he would like and should he become available there will be plenty of takers for his speed of the mark, awareness and rare finishing ability.
Joined Milan from Kyiv in 1999 and scored goals a plenty in his first couple of seasons. The stunning form of Pippo Inzaghi means first team chances may be limited for Shevchenko.
Jon Dahl Tomasson (forward)
Born:: 29.08.76
Nationality: Danish
Forget his mediocre displays at Newcastle United in the 1997-98 campaign as this striker has more than proved himself in the years since.
At his next club, Feyenoord, he improved dramatically and after underlining his growing reputation with four goals at World Cup 2002, Milan were more than happy to take him on a Bosman free in the close season.
A composed taker of chances and at his best operating behind the strikers. Scored against Deportivo in the first phase of the Champions League.
btw, they are only 1 pt ahead of dortmund. i feel they have to win vs. ac to distance itself and assure 2nd spot.
Yo GiantNRS2! Yeah, in my opinion, Barca's excellent form in the Champions League has made up for their poor performance in La Liga. As a Barca fan, I would prefer that Real Sociedad (or any other team for that matter) win the Liga title instead of Madrid. Para iba naman kasi palaging Real ang nananalo.
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the venue for this year's Champions League final will be at Old Trafford regardless of who the finalists will be. So, if ManU reach the final, they will have a tremendous home field advantage. If that were to happen, I can just imagine a sea of red all over.
Para iba naman kasi palaging Real ang nananalo.If I'm not mistaken, I believe the venue for this year's Champions League final will be at Old Trafford regardless of who the finalists will be. So, if ManU reach the final, they will have a tremendous home field advantage. If that were to happen, I can just imagine a sea of red all over.
Kaiser8, you're correct about the finals venue for the Champions League Final, the Theater of Dreams, Old Trafford. I hope United make it to the finals because if they play in front of the home fans, they're just about invincible!
On Barca, I gues with the firing of Louis van Galle, the Dutch connection at Barca will slowly be broken. Ever since the 70's Barca has thrived on a steady stream of Dutch talent from the Ajax Total Football teams of the 70's right down to the Surinamese/Dutch connection of the 90's. Maybe, this shake-up is just what the club needed.
The way I try to explain Barca's bad run of form in the Liga and success in the Champions League is basically the fact that you play diferent styles of football in either league. I guess, Barca was too tooled to play in the Champions League that they forgot to prepare for the Liga they way they should. Case in point, loading up with the Dutch and playing Dutch style -- it works for a while in Spain and may work wonders in a league like the Champions League where your opponents don't get to play you week in and week out. But, I guess with everyone watching your moves in La Liga, it's pretty hard to fake your opponents out all the time. They're bound to spot your weak spots and shut you down someday. It's a simplistic way of looking at things but that's just about the only way I can explain Barca's inconsistency this year.
As for Real Madrid, man, those guys are scary. They have talent on that team right down to the third-stringers. This stock-piling thing of Real is pretty unnerving too. It's becoming a super team all on its own. The situation in Real now actually reminds me of AC Milan in the early 90's with all their talent. We all know what AC Milan did with all that talent -- steam rollered the rest of the Serie A and went on to dominate the Champions League!
On Barca, I gues with the firing of Louis van Galle, the Dutch connection at Barca will slowly be broken. Ever since the 70's Barca has thrived on a steady stream of Dutch talent from the Ajax Total Football teams of the 70's right down to the Surinamese/Dutch connection of the 90's. Maybe, this shake-up is just what the club needed.
The way I try to explain Barca's bad run of form in the Liga and success in the Champions League is basically the fact that you play diferent styles of football in either league. I guess, Barca was too tooled to play in the Champions League that they forgot to prepare for the Liga they way they should. Case in point, loading up with the Dutch and playing Dutch style -- it works for a while in Spain and may work wonders in a league like the Champions League where your opponents don't get to play you week in and week out. But, I guess with everyone watching your moves in La Liga, it's pretty hard to fake your opponents out all the time. They're bound to spot your weak spots and shut you down someday. It's a simplistic way of looking at things but that's just about the only way I can explain Barca's inconsistency this year.
As for Real Madrid, man, those guys are scary. They have talent on that team right down to the third-stringers. This stock-piling thing of Real is pretty unnerving too. It's becoming a super team all on its own. The situation in Real now actually reminds me of AC Milan in the early 90's with all their talent. We all know what AC Milan did with all that talent -- steam rollered the rest of the Serie A and went on to dominate the Champions League!
Go Real!!!
I hope Roberto Carlos gets to score a free kick! It's a marvel seeing that guy swerve the ball with such power!!! Idol!
I hope Roberto Carlos gets to score a free kick! It's a marvel seeing that guy swerve the ball with such power!!! Idol!
Real Madrid 3 - AC Milan 1
While Real Madrid looked like the champions they are, I thought AC MIlan lacked intensity and motivation throughout the game. Maybe they relaxed a bit knowing that they had already qualified for the next stage but still, I expected more fight from them. Even Milan coach Ancelotti stated that his players did not have the same sense of urgency that the Madrid players had. The match was full of poorly taken free kicks and corner kicks by Milan players. Shevchenko was a non-factor and Rivaldo only made his presence felt late in the match. I thought things would exciting after Rivaldo's goal but then Guti scored Real's 3rd goal shortly after and it was over.
Mav, good point about Barca's inconsistent form in La Liga and the Champions League. One other possible reason could be that Barca realize that they have no chance of winning La Liga so they are now focusing on performing well in the CL, their last hope of a trophy this season.
While Real Madrid looked like the champions they are, I thought AC MIlan lacked intensity and motivation throughout the game. Maybe they relaxed a bit knowing that they had already qualified for the next stage but still, I expected more fight from them. Even Milan coach Ancelotti stated that his players did not have the same sense of urgency that the Madrid players had. The match was full of poorly taken free kicks and corner kicks by Milan players. Shevchenko was a non-factor and Rivaldo only made his presence felt late in the match. I thought things would exciting after Rivaldo's goal but then Guti scored Real's 3rd goal shortly after and it was over.
Mav, good point about Barca's inconsistent form in La Liga and the Champions League. One other possible reason could be that Barca realize that they have no chance of winning La Liga so they are now focusing on performing well in the CL, their last hope of a trophy this season.
From ESPN Star web site
GAME ON STAR SPORTS 1:30am March 19 Wednesday
Real need a win to avoid the unthinkable
PARIS, (AFP) - Real Madrid need to beat Lokomotiv Moscow in the Russian capital on Tuesday to be absolutely sure of keeping alive their bid for a fourth European crown in six seasons. Vicente Del Bosque's reigning continental champions must have thought their passage to the quarter-finals of the Champions League would be simpler than this when they were paired with AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund and Lokomotiv in the second-phase Group C.
But Zidane, Raul, Ronaldo and co have struggled by their sky-high standards, losing away to Milan, drawing 2-2 with the Russians at their normally impregnable Bernabeu fortress and being held by the Germans in Dortmund.
Milan have already won the group after winning their opening four matches, while Real are second on eight points with Dortmund lurking just one point behind going into the final round of matches.
Matthias Sammer's reigning German champions know they must beat the already qualified Milan at the San Siro and hope that the Russians - whose have scored a solitary point so far - can at least force a draw with Real in the matches which both kick off at 1730 GMT.
If Real do not win, they must hope Dortmund do not better their result.
Real must make the trip without one half of their much-vaunted defence - Brazilian speed merchant Roberto Carlos is suspended and Spanish veteran Fernando Hierro is still injured.
French midfielder Claude Makelele is due to return to the starting 11 and Real, buoyed by a 1-0 league win over Villarreal at the weekend, will hope the awesome pairing of Ronaldo and Raul can put their qualification beyond doubt.
GAME ON STAR SPORTS 1:30am March 19 Wednesday
Real need a win to avoid the unthinkable
PARIS, (AFP) - Real Madrid need to beat Lokomotiv Moscow in the Russian capital on Tuesday to be absolutely sure of keeping alive their bid for a fourth European crown in six seasons. Vicente Del Bosque's reigning continental champions must have thought their passage to the quarter-finals of the Champions League would be simpler than this when they were paired with AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund and Lokomotiv in the second-phase Group C.
But Zidane, Raul, Ronaldo and co have struggled by their sky-high standards, losing away to Milan, drawing 2-2 with the Russians at their normally impregnable Bernabeu fortress and being held by the Germans in Dortmund.
Milan have already won the group after winning their opening four matches, while Real are second on eight points with Dortmund lurking just one point behind going into the final round of matches.
Matthias Sammer's reigning German champions know they must beat the already qualified Milan at the San Siro and hope that the Russians - whose have scored a solitary point so far - can at least force a draw with Real in the matches which both kick off at 1730 GMT.
If Real do not win, they must hope Dortmund do not better their result.
Real must make the trip without one half of their much-vaunted defence - Brazilian speed merchant Roberto Carlos is suspended and Spanish veteran Fernando Hierro is still injured.
French midfielder Claude Makelele is due to return to the starting 11 and Real, buoyed by a 1-0 league win over Villarreal at the weekend, will hope the awesome pairing of Ronaldo and Raul can put their qualification beyond doubt.
With a 1-0 win, Real just barely made it into the quarterfinals. I thought they were extremely lucky to come away with a win coz they could easily have lost in Moscow. After Ronaldo's 1st half goal, the Muscovites took over in the 2nd half and had at least 2 very good chances at goal which they squandered. I really thought Moscow could have drawn the match and thus, kick Madrid's arse out of the CL. But they fell short. The pitch was horrible and played a big factor in the match since Real could not get their passing game going due to the rough field. According to the commentator, the field resembled a "plowed field" and a "cabbage patch".
Well, the defending champs are in to the next round and I think they may face either ManU or Barcelona.
Well, the defending champs are in to the next round and I think they may face either ManU or Barcelona.
the question is who would they rather face?
i think it will be conducted via draw.
i think it will be conducted via draw.
i got to watch that game kanina... who else got to?
grabe... bawat sipa nila, parang nababakbak yung lupa... the pitch was really bad...
at times, the ball would just stop rolling kasi parang na-embed sa earth...
grabe... bawat sipa nila, parang nababakbak yung lupa... the pitch was really bad...
at times, the ball would just stop rolling kasi parang na-embed sa earth...
i saw it.
reminds me of the charlton-newcastle game (if i am ryt). wla atang green doon sa field.
anyway, it was in moscow, what would you expect?
reminds me of the charlton-newcastle game (if i am ryt). wla atang green doon sa field.
anyway, it was in moscow, what would you expect?
sino kalaban nila for quarters? i heard it was the red devils....
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Originally posted by peacelove143:
sino kalaban nila for quarters? i heard it was the red devils....
sino kalaban nila for quarters? i heard it was the red devils....
Real will face ManU in the 1st leg of the quarters on April 8.
...and the rumors of the Beckham transfer to Madrid persist!
Scolari: Ronaldo will never be the same
RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) -- Brazilian World Cup star Ronaldo will never again play at the level he did before his knee injury, former Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari said in a published interview.
"He needs to work a lot to be 70 percent, 80 percent. But he will never again return to the way he was at 18 or 19," Scolari was quoted as saying on the Brazilian soccer Web site Lancenet on Friday.
Ronaldo, 26, disproved skeptics by recovering from two knee operations to lead Brazil to a record fifth World Cup title in Japan last year. The Real Madrid star led all scorers with eight goals, including both in Brazil's 2-0 victory over Germany in the final.
But Scolari, who coached the team, said afterward that Ronaldo wasn't physically 100 percent at the World Cup and probably never would be again.
The two meet Saturday when Brazil plays an exhibition match against Portugal, now coached by Scolari.
RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) -- Brazilian World Cup star Ronaldo will never again play at the level he did before his knee injury, former Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari said in a published interview.
"He needs to work a lot to be 70 percent, 80 percent. But he will never again return to the way he was at 18 or 19," Scolari was quoted as saying on the Brazilian soccer Web site Lancenet on Friday.
Ronaldo, 26, disproved skeptics by recovering from two knee operations to lead Brazil to a record fifth World Cup title in Japan last year. The Real Madrid star led all scorers with eight goals, including both in Brazil's 2-0 victory over Germany in the final.
But Scolari, who coached the team, said afterward that Ronaldo wasn't physically 100 percent at the World Cup and probably never would be again.
The two meet Saturday when Brazil plays an exhibition match against Portugal, now coached by Scolari.
Spanish Press feasts on interest in Beckham
MADRID, Spain (AP) -- Spain's sports press feasted Wednesday on Real Madrid's possible targeting of Manchester United midfielder David Beckham for a summer transfer.
Following a comment Tuesday by Madrid's sports director Jorge Valdano in As which hinted his club could be interested in the England midfielder, the Madrid-based paper and its rival Marca led with stories on Beckham.
"Let's just say that bearing in mind the coups that Real Madrid have carried out on the transfer market in the last few years, Beckham would fit into our project," Valdano had told As on Tuesday.
On Wednesday, As ran the headline "It's an honor that Madrid has noticed me" accompanied by a photograph of a smiling Beckham.
The daily said that the midfielder was "beginning to feel unsettled in Manchester", adding that he was at odds with both coach Alex Ferguson and teammate Ryan Giggs.
As added that United was considering Real Betis' Spanish international Joaquin Sanchez as a possible replacement.
It also displayed a tactical chart which showed how Madrid could incorporate Beckham into its star-studded attack of Ronaldo, Raul Gonzalez, Luis Figo and Zinedine Zidane, saying he "would multiply Madrid's attacking options on the wing."
"Do you want to play for Madrid?" asked Marca in a front-page headline, adding "Beckham gives us his reply to the big question".
Inside, accompanied by an eight-photo sequence, it described the player's reaction to the question, which the paper posed at the presentation of the new England soccer shirt in London on Tuesday.
"First he was surprised to hear Marca's question. He thought about it and swallowed. He started to talk with a smile on his face. He touched his face and neck," it said.
The paper went on to provide Beckham's response.
"Everyone knows that Madrid is a fantastic club. It's a team with great tradition and it has some brilliant players. It's an honor that Real Madrid is looking at me. But I already play in a great team, which in my view is the best in the world and where I feel at home," said Beckham, who signed a new, lucrative contract with United last year which runs to 2005.
Marca also included a quote from Madrid president Florentino Perez scotching reports that talks with Beckham had begun.
"No one is thinking about signing Beckham at the moment," he said.
Perez, who since his election in 2000 has brought Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo to the club in successive summers, added that there was no chance that Figo would be allowed to depart in an exchange for Beckham.
"Figo will never leave Madrid. He will see out his contract," he said.
The Portuguese midfielder's contract runs until 2006.
MADRID, Spain (AP) -- Spain's sports press feasted Wednesday on Real Madrid's possible targeting of Manchester United midfielder David Beckham for a summer transfer.
Following a comment Tuesday by Madrid's sports director Jorge Valdano in As which hinted his club could be interested in the England midfielder, the Madrid-based paper and its rival Marca led with stories on Beckham.
"Let's just say that bearing in mind the coups that Real Madrid have carried out on the transfer market in the last few years, Beckham would fit into our project," Valdano had told As on Tuesday.
On Wednesday, As ran the headline "It's an honor that Madrid has noticed me" accompanied by a photograph of a smiling Beckham.
The daily said that the midfielder was "beginning to feel unsettled in Manchester", adding that he was at odds with both coach Alex Ferguson and teammate Ryan Giggs.
As added that United was considering Real Betis' Spanish international Joaquin Sanchez as a possible replacement.
It also displayed a tactical chart which showed how Madrid could incorporate Beckham into its star-studded attack of Ronaldo, Raul Gonzalez, Luis Figo and Zinedine Zidane, saying he "would multiply Madrid's attacking options on the wing."
"Do you want to play for Madrid?" asked Marca in a front-page headline, adding "Beckham gives us his reply to the big question".
Inside, accompanied by an eight-photo sequence, it described the player's reaction to the question, which the paper posed at the presentation of the new England soccer shirt in London on Tuesday.
"First he was surprised to hear Marca's question. He thought about it and swallowed. He started to talk with a smile on his face. He touched his face and neck," it said.
The paper went on to provide Beckham's response.
"Everyone knows that Madrid is a fantastic club. It's a team with great tradition and it has some brilliant players. It's an honor that Real Madrid is looking at me. But I already play in a great team, which in my view is the best in the world and where I feel at home," said Beckham, who signed a new, lucrative contract with United last year which runs to 2005.
Marca also included a quote from Madrid president Florentino Perez scotching reports that talks with Beckham had begun.
"No one is thinking about signing Beckham at the moment," he said.
Perez, who since his election in 2000 has brought Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo to the club in successive summers, added that there was no chance that Figo would be allowed to depart in an exchange for Beckham.
"Figo will never leave Madrid. He will see out his contract," he said.
The Portuguese midfielder's contract runs until 2006.
3-1: Manchester bows before the best team in the world
08/04/2003
Which is Real Madrid after seeing both its position in the world ranking and the good football they have displayed against its main European opponent. Figo and Raúl (twice) beat Barthez’ goal. The French keeper played a vital role in saving his team from an early elimination. Van Nistelrooy scored the goal that could have given some more life to the English. Manchester will have to improve their play if they want to keep Madrid away from its Tenth European hit. Bernabéu’s crowds were thrilled with the fantastic show on the pitch, almost perfect. Zidane was partly responsible for this perfection as he did an unforgettable game tonight. Real Madrid could not be more generous towards all football fans with their unceasing search for a fourth target.
The general assumption that it was going to be an even round with 180 minutes of intensity could have turned into an easy qualification within the first half an hour of play. Real Madrid stormed across the field with two goals and several chances to secure the pass into semifinals. Apart from Figo and Raúl’s hits, we should also count the overlooked penalty on Figo and the great performance by Barthez, who saved three dangerous shots from Roberto Carlos, Raúl and Ronaldo.
Manchester also assaulted Casillas’ goal over the first half, but Scholes and Van Nistelrooy lacked the necessary drive. Madrid’s superiority was not only shown on the score, because they were beating their opponents in all the aspects of the game. Figo and Zidane imposed their style in the midfield with some awesome playing. The Whites rolled the ball across the field with ease and flair, smoothly led by their brilliant ideas. Besides, the English side did not make it difficult for Real, as they played and let the opponent play.
Logic progression
Tactics was the prevailing attitude in the second half. It was like all of a sudden both sides realised they were playing to qualify for the Champions League semifinals. After the two top-scorers in the competition (Raúl and Van Nisterlrooy) got their share of the night, the contestants started to took some defensive precautions. However, the good quality of the attackers kept providing the fans with a number of chances to score.
The advantage was for Real Madrid, which now had defend this difference. The game slowed down, but the British sped it up with the appearance of O’Shea and his good work in the midfield. They also displayed more aggressiveness (they needed to attack), resulting in a better control of the game, but also making the ref to show three yellow cards in a short time (Neville, Van Nistelrooy and Scholes. The first and last are now out of the second leg, good news for Madrid.
Manchester tried to cut the lead down right until the final whistle, but it was Madrid that enjoyed more chances to secure the round. With this result we will have to wait and see what happens in Manchester in two weeks. Madrid will visit Old Trafford, the stage where the would-be European champion will perform in May. From what we saw tonight, it looks like the championship will be rather white.
THE MATCH:
3 - REAL MADRID: Casillas; Míchel Salgado, Hierro, Helguera, Roberto Carlos; Makelele, Flavio; Figo, Raúl, Zidane; Ronaldo (Guti, min. 84).
0 - MANCHESTER UNITED: Barthez; Gary Neville (Solskjaer, min. 86), Brown, Ferdinand, Silvestre (O’Shea, min. 58); Keane, Butt; Beckham, Scholes, Giggs; Van Nistelrooy.
REFEREE: Anders Frisk (SWE). Yellow card to Gary Neville (64'), Van Nistelrooy (71'), Scholes (77') and Keane (94').
GOALS:
1-0: Min. 12: Great goal by Figo, who takes Barthez by surprise with a looping shot into the corner of the net.
2-0: Min. 28: Raúl gets around his markers and scores with a cross shot.
3-0: Min. 49: Raúl again, receiving from Figo, a hard blow from outside the area.
3-1: Min. 52: Van Nistelrooy, after a save by Casillas.
OTHER FACTS: First leg of 2002/03 Champions League quarterfinals Partido de ida de los cuartos de final de la Liga de Campeones 2002/03. Santiago Bernabéu Stadium. 74.700 spectators (about 3.000 of them English)- Takings: 1.650.000 €. Field of play in perfect conditions and nice spring temperature.
08/04/2003
Which is Real Madrid after seeing both its position in the world ranking and the good football they have displayed against its main European opponent. Figo and Raúl (twice) beat Barthez’ goal. The French keeper played a vital role in saving his team from an early elimination. Van Nistelrooy scored the goal that could have given some more life to the English. Manchester will have to improve their play if they want to keep Madrid away from its Tenth European hit. Bernabéu’s crowds were thrilled with the fantastic show on the pitch, almost perfect. Zidane was partly responsible for this perfection as he did an unforgettable game tonight. Real Madrid could not be more generous towards all football fans with their unceasing search for a fourth target.
The general assumption that it was going to be an even round with 180 minutes of intensity could have turned into an easy qualification within the first half an hour of play. Real Madrid stormed across the field with two goals and several chances to secure the pass into semifinals. Apart from Figo and Raúl’s hits, we should also count the overlooked penalty on Figo and the great performance by Barthez, who saved three dangerous shots from Roberto Carlos, Raúl and Ronaldo.
Manchester also assaulted Casillas’ goal over the first half, but Scholes and Van Nistelrooy lacked the necessary drive. Madrid’s superiority was not only shown on the score, because they were beating their opponents in all the aspects of the game. Figo and Zidane imposed their style in the midfield with some awesome playing. The Whites rolled the ball across the field with ease and flair, smoothly led by their brilliant ideas. Besides, the English side did not make it difficult for Real, as they played and let the opponent play.
Logic progression
Tactics was the prevailing attitude in the second half. It was like all of a sudden both sides realised they were playing to qualify for the Champions League semifinals. After the two top-scorers in the competition (Raúl and Van Nisterlrooy) got their share of the night, the contestants started to took some defensive precautions. However, the good quality of the attackers kept providing the fans with a number of chances to score.
The advantage was for Real Madrid, which now had defend this difference. The game slowed down, but the British sped it up with the appearance of O’Shea and his good work in the midfield. They also displayed more aggressiveness (they needed to attack), resulting in a better control of the game, but also making the ref to show three yellow cards in a short time (Neville, Van Nistelrooy and Scholes. The first and last are now out of the second leg, good news for Madrid.
Manchester tried to cut the lead down right until the final whistle, but it was Madrid that enjoyed more chances to secure the round. With this result we will have to wait and see what happens in Manchester in two weeks. Madrid will visit Old Trafford, the stage where the would-be European champion will perform in May. From what we saw tonight, it looks like the championship will be rather white.
THE MATCH:
3 - REAL MADRID: Casillas; Míchel Salgado, Hierro, Helguera, Roberto Carlos; Makelele, Flavio; Figo, Raúl, Zidane; Ronaldo (Guti, min. 84).
0 - MANCHESTER UNITED: Barthez; Gary Neville (Solskjaer, min. 86), Brown, Ferdinand, Silvestre (O’Shea, min. 58); Keane, Butt; Beckham, Scholes, Giggs; Van Nistelrooy.
REFEREE: Anders Frisk (SWE). Yellow card to Gary Neville (64'), Van Nistelrooy (71'), Scholes (77') and Keane (94').
GOALS:
1-0: Min. 12: Great goal by Figo, who takes Barthez by surprise with a looping shot into the corner of the net.
2-0: Min. 28: Raúl gets around his markers and scores with a cross shot.
3-0: Min. 49: Raúl again, receiving from Figo, a hard blow from outside the area.
3-1: Min. 52: Van Nistelrooy, after a save by Casillas.
OTHER FACTS: First leg of 2002/03 Champions League quarterfinals Partido de ida de los cuartos de final de la Liga de Campeones 2002/03. Santiago Bernabéu Stadium. 74.700 spectators (about 3.000 of them English)- Takings: 1.650.000 €. Field of play in perfect conditions and nice spring temperature.
Great game! The 1st half was dominated by Madrid as it seemed like the ManU players were just watching the Madrid 'stars' and were allowing them to play their game. The ManU defense was just a bit slow to react to the slick passing of the Madrid players and, as a result, Madrid scored 2 in the 1st half. Real scored another just minutes into the 2nd half and I thought ManU would not be able to recover. But ManU was able to retaliate with a goal and the game's intensity picked up after that. ManU had several chances to score but failed to convert. It's too bad that Scholes and G. Neville received yellow cards, they will miss the next game in Old Trafford.
I think ManU is still capable of winning the draw, all they need is a 2-0 win at home and they're through. Of course that is much easier said than done and it will be extremely difficult to do that against Madrid.
I think ManU is still capable of winning the draw, all they need is a 2-0 win at home and they're through. Of course that is much easier said than done and it will be extremely difficult to do that against Madrid.
aryt yeah go real!
Congratulations to the Madristas here. As we sing on the Stretford End of Old Trafford: "It's all about belief." We'll get you on the return leg.
Ronaldo: You Da Man!!!
3 goals in Old Trafford.
HALA MADRID!!!
On to Turin.....
3 goals in Old Trafford.
HALA MADRID!!!
On to Turin.....
Like what I said in another thread, the European Dream is over. It's time to concentrate on the League. Hats off to Real Madrid. You played a blinder and our efforts just weren't good enough.
See you next year.
See you next year.
At the start of the season, I had doubts that Ronaldo would be a good fit in Real Madrid's system. But after watching the game, those doubts were erased. Ronaldo made a clear statement that he was the best striker in the world today. Even Sir Alex was in awe of Ronaldo's performance.
I honestly think that Real will make it back to the final in Old Trafford. I'm not that impressed with Juve (I thought they got lucky with a win over Barca but that's another story) and I dont' think they can beat an in-form Madrid squad. Also, several of Juve's key players will miss the 1st leg of the semis due to suspension.
My prediction for the final: Madrid vs. AC Milan
I honestly think that Real will make it back to the final in Old Trafford. I'm not that impressed with Juve (I thought they got lucky with a win over Barca but that's another story) and I dont' think they can beat an in-form Madrid squad. Also, several of Juve's key players will miss the 1st leg of the semis due to suspension.
My prediction for the final: Madrid vs. AC Milan
What a showdown! A bittersweet victory for ManU, winning the game but losing the championship. Still, they lost to worthy opponents
I agree that Real's defense needs work. Casillas, their young (and dare I say it? good-looking) goalkeeper is good, but he's dragged down by lackluster defenders.
If Becks were to move to Madrid he'd be making the worst mistake in his life. Sure, he's been forced into the shadows as of late, but that's better than nothing, which is what he'll have to start with if he goes to Real. Real needs defenders not midfielders - they've got a surplus of those, and forwards as well. If Barthez (and the rest of ManU's usually strong defense) had been in better condition ManU probably would have won. I mean, only Ronaldo scored for Real. Every time he did, he was practically alone at the pitch! Frustrating.
I agree that Real's defense needs work. Casillas, their young (and dare I say it? good-looking) goalkeeper is good, but he's dragged down by lackluster defenders.
If Becks were to move to Madrid he'd be making the worst mistake in his life. Sure, he's been forced into the shadows as of late, but that's better than nothing, which is what he'll have to start with if he goes to Real. Real needs defenders not midfielders - they've got a surplus of those, and forwards as well. If Barthez (and the rest of ManU's usually strong defense) had been in better condition ManU probably would have won. I mean, only Ronaldo scored for Real. Every time he did, he was practically alone at the pitch! Frustrating.
Real Madrid beats Juventus 2-1 in the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium Madrid. Goals from the Brazilians, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos
On to Turin for the return leg.
Hala Madrid!
On to Turin for the return leg.
Hala Madrid!
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Originally posted by Alberto Aguilera:
Real Madrid beats Juventus 2-1 in the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium Madrid. Goals from the Brazilians, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos
On to Turin for the return leg.
Hala Madrid!
Real Madrid beats Juventus 2-1 in the Santiago Bernabeu Stadium Madrid. Goals from the Brazilians, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos
On to Turin for the return leg.
Hala Madrid!
Dude, do you play?
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Originally posted by Mighty_Alumnus:
Dude, do you play?
Dude, do you play?
Yes, Real Madrid is my second favorite team in the world. Of course,only after our very own Ateneo Blue Eagles. Are you a football player?
who played? sayang lang at naka-iskor ang juve. eniwei, i think madrid should go after help in the defensive backfied instead of going after beckham. 2 cents' worth of comments...
real madrid fan here
i hope they win in the 2nd leg too. go IKER, go ronaldo, go zidane, go figo. get well soon raul, hope to see you soon.
i hope they win in the 2nd leg too. go IKER, go ronaldo, go zidane, go figo. get well soon raul, hope to see you soon.
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Originally posted by Alberto Aguilera:
Yes, Real Madrid is my second favorite team in the world. Of course,only after our very own Ateneo Blue Eagles. Are you a football player?
Yes, Real Madrid is my second favorite team in the world. Of course,only after our very own Ateneo Blue Eagles. Are you a football player?
Yes I used to play for the Eagles back in college but I still play every Saturday and Sunday.
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