Well, gentlemen and lady, are you all up to it?

Nice way to unwind and meet the regulars here.

Anyone else interested?

Nov. 16 or 23?

am all for it... just set the date.

LOL. I read about this in one of your loooong, intelligent posts, and I salute you! Good luck getting drunk out of your skulls for the glory of the Ateneo!

Heehee.

In the spirit of things, I offer my next fourteen iced tea glasses. I'm only fifteen. I can't drink.

Am all for it. Either Saturday will do for me. I will go where the crowd's biggest.

I can't on the 16th but the 23rd is free as far as I know. So when exactly and where? (Heehee...another problem...I need to wangle a ride! )

RE 14 beers: as I will be competing in the Ateneo-La Salle alumni badminton tournament over those two weekends, please do not make me drink anything other than non-alcoholic refreshment. It's for health reasons. My doubles partner would kill me if I showed up hung over.

Count me in!

Though Nov. 23 is much better for me, I really have no problem with 16 either.

Ghostrider,

I volunteer you to select the venue/meeting place and the time. You can just send a personal message regarding the time and place to the guys in on the 14 Beers Project when you've determined the venue.

Carrot,

We'll find you a ride. Don't worry. Also, please note that you won't be serving any drinks!


UpperBox,

You better drink at least one beer after all this 14 Beers thing started as your idea!

[ November 04, 2002: Message edited by: Maverick ]

I am in. Makati or Libis?

Regulars will know what this is all about, but for the benefit of people who don't have a clue what the title of this thread means, it refers to an initiative in a previous thread of memorializing the Blue Eagle players from the 14-year title drought. The original plan was to send out this chain e-mail:


"THE 14 BEERS MEMORIAL PROJECT
In honor of the Blue Eagles who played during the 14-year UAAP drought

With your next 14 beers please remember the Ateneo players who never won a championship between 1988 and 2002. They worked just as hard as any champions, they played before thin crowds, and they fought the good fight.

One big fight! and cheers!

Please drink responsibly, and pass this on to any players you may know from that period, or fans who supported the Blue Eagles through the last 14 years. If you do not pass it on within 24 hours of receiving this, Ateneo will NEVER WIN AGAIN because FANS WHO DON'T REMEMBER DON'T DESERVE CHAMPIONSHIPS. Ateneans never forget."

Since those more innocent times, however, the regulars have determined that they will honor the 14 beers pledge as a group, and hope some interesting basketball insights will ensue. Non-regulars are welcome for drinks too. Please register your interest in the next few days on this thread.

Re proposed drinks venue: Makati should be central if we have anyone coming from the deep south. If we have no Alabang/Las Pinas/Panaraque types, Libis would be great.

Count me in!

How does the 16th sound?

Libis area?

People coming from down south have until the 8th of November to air their grievances. Otherwise, your silence shall be construed as acceptance of the proposed venue.

Aside from those who've replied, I'd like to meet rolling stone, Iceman, Giorgio, Bleachers King, JOBAI, yungha, if-i-were-green-i-would-die, mera51 and last but not the least, Ms. D.

How about it guys? Come on down!

Ghostrider, 16th and Libis sound ok to me!!

I can't on the 16th I have a super-top-secret assignment -- este, a family thing.

Anyway, you guys have a good time. I'll see if I can find a couple of beers and drink along with you *in spirit*

Is the Ortigas/Rockwell area considered a fair enough venue for everyone too? Nov. 23 sounds good.

Not that I'm wishy-washy about things, but 23 Nov. sounds good too. Ortigas area sounds fine too since I will be coming from Greenhills on that day.

[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: Maverick ]

count me in... just posrtwhen and where and we'll be there!!! invite nyo na rin yung mga players who played for the past 14 years parang tribute din naman sa kanila yun... they also worked hard kahit hindi nanalo ng championships... pwede ba kahit hindi taga ateneo? pero i'm in full support for ateneo

Don't mind having actual players at the drinks. Would be nice to see Danny F again.

Re scheduling: we seem to have some people who can't make it the 16th but no one positively saying they can't make it on the 23rd. Do you think a date for the 23rd would bag more people? Ghostrider, your call since you're fixing the venue. Personally, while I can make both dates, I would prefer the 23rd because it means I will have got past most of my games in the Ateneo-La Salle badminton tournament.

Maverick -- see you at the tournament, ha ha.

Yes and I'll be leading cheers on the La Salle side! Hahaha!

Want to hear the height of paranoia? We may also need to work out a procedure to root out impostors who might come and claim somebody's nickname. As we have no way of proving or disproving claimed identities when we meet for drinks, I think Ghostrider will need to private-message the venue and details to people's Atenista accounts. Please shoot me if this sounds like I've finally gone over the edge.

count me in, dudes. libis is fine. will be coming from the GA re: ABL. i heard sa Nov. 23 yun.

I'm willing to wear a name tag in public, assuming the 14BP (hee ) will be held on the 23rd and I can go. Or you can require people to show up in Ateneo shirts...

Anyway, it's not like the impostors will gain anything -- KKB naman di ba? Bahala sila if they want to borrow someone else's screen name, gastos pa rin sila.

[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: 5FootCarrot ]

Maybe we can get people to recite some obscure Ateneo cheer. My vote is for the Artillery Yell, ha ha. There's just something hilarious about hearing grown men shouting "Boom Chicka-Boom!" as fast as they can.

I vote for "Cheer, cheer and go." There's a line in that cheer that goes "onward and smile." That's my candidate for most non-aggresive line in an Ateneo cheer!

By the way, we actually tried to cheer the "Artillery Yell" in Game 3 this year. My sister found the "boom-chicka-boom" parts a little weird.

Ghostrider:

would love to come and will try my best. even during the non-championship years, i was never afraid of cortez, nor ritualo, nor allado, nor aldeguer, nor webb, nor espinosa, nor limpot. but i'm absolutely terrified of asking permission from my wife!

Have a little sympathy for people asking permission from their wives. You can just imagine how suspicious the whole situation can sound. Picture this bit of dialogue between Mr and Mrs Yungha:

"Honey, I'm going to a bar. There's a bunch of people I met over the internet I'm having drinks with. We're just going to talk about basketball. Honest."

Yeah, right! :-)

[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: Upper Box ]

I was seated right below the BBB during that game and I heard them cheering that. I don't think a lot of people know that one esp. the younger ones and those who didn't study at Ateneo for HS and GS (which includes me hehehe).

Uhhh...excuse me...hi, I'm someone who can't even keep up with the BBB when we do "Fabilioh"

A sample of my permission-asking speech: "Hey, Mom? A bunch of people I've met over the Internet are planning to get together and drink beer. Di pa sure when and where. May I go?...You and dad can come too, if you don't mind sitting near a bunch of noisy Ateneans talking about basketball."

From 5FootCarrot, whose dad put on a blue T-shirt for Halloween and said he was dressed up as an Atenean

Carrot: Surely enough former cheerleaders will show up to teach you a Fabilioh or two :-) Should you have any further difficulty establishing your identity, try showing up as Kelly McGillis in her Amish outfit from "Witness."

Anyone with permission problems, we promise to provide you with airtight alibis. My favorite is, "Oh, we just played billiards." This just about covers any situation I can imagine. It's harmless and bland, and can be used to explain why you smell of cigarettes, beer, and have baby powder all over your body. A plausible explanation for blue chalk on the hands, I'm still working on.

[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: Upper Box ]

Hmmm...aside from making this event a swapping of Ateneo basketball lore and insider information on the hot new prospects of the Ateneo team, maybe we can have a freakin' cheer rally in the middle of the restaurant/bar to initiate those who are struggling in the stands. We can start of with the usual cheers (Fabilioh) then move up to the more exotic ones (Boomalaka, Artilery yell, The Hoiah). We can even throw in the Ateneo songs. I'll even bring **** Gordon's frozen eagle -- it's still in my freezer!

Hmm... is that good or bad..?

Upper Box:Got your PM, thanks.. Will see if I can drop by. Getting curious about your real identities. Maybe I already know some of you guys

Nice idea, guys. It's certainly nice to remember the older Blue Eagles. If you want, I can ask some of the former players that I know if they want to grace your little get-together

[ November 05, 2002: Message edited by: miss d ]

Count me in. If you guys aren't decided which place to hold this event, I suggest National Sports Grill at Greenbelt in Makati. It can accommodate a large group plus it has several large tv screens where we can run the best games of the Eagles and possibly other documentary features on our team while we are boozing away. Owner is also an Atenean, Sammy Zamora. Let me know if this interests you and I'll talk to Sammy. Is the 23rd of Nov final?

LOL I don't know how they're related, but Ponch Zamora (whom I've seen on TV talking up NSG) was in my French 1 class

For those with permission problems -- why not just bring your wives? In the interest of Internet safety, I might have to drag my parents along. They'll sit at another table, of course (my La Sallian father might explode otherwise), but will be close enough to identify any of you from the police lineup if anything happens to me :cool:

Carrot: Also in the interest of Internet safety, I think you'll need to brief the group about what we can't discuss in front of your parents. The main issues are, is your dad a good sport when it comes to a bunch of Ateneans messing around about La Salle? And have you posted anything on the threads that might offend him? Because I can just imagine someone saying in a loud cheerleader voice, "Ah, ikaw pala si Manyak cum Laude!" Might be messy.

The upside to all this is, I've always wanted to pose in a police lineup photo a la Kevin Spacey in The Usual Suspects. Maybe I should change my pseudonym to Keyser Soze.

Good question.

Scenario 1: They might not let me go. I've mentioned it about twice to my folks and they haven't said no, but once the details (date, time, venue, the fact that I will be drinking around people -- mostly guys -- I don't personally know) are finalized, they might freak out and lock me up. This is a bit of an exaggeration, though

Scenario 2: They might let me commute to wherever it is we're going to meet (subject to public utility transpo constraints), but then will pick me up when I'm ready to go home.

Scenario 3: They'll bring me there then go somewhere else until I'm ready to go home, like to Merk's if we'll be in Greenbelt (hehe, plugging).

For Scenarios 2 and 3, no worries :cool:

Scenario 4: They go with me and sit someplace else.

Scenario 5: Horror of horrors -- they sit with us! :eek:

For Scenarios 4 and 5, I think what we've discussed on the threads thus far -- next year's prospects and basketball-related lore (whether or not starring the Sockless One ) -- won't offend my dad. He might even pitch in a few stories of his own (in the case of Scenario 5)...or round up a few of his buddies so he'll have sympathetic people to sit with (Scenario 4). He'll definitely be interested in the frozen eagle

And since I don't think we'll be resorting to the immature "ACET flunkers" and "bobo" barbs, I don't think I need to go into that

So, in conclusion, I really still have to make sure that I can go If I can, then I think maintaining our level of discussion to the quality that we have on the boards thus far is just fine. Just don't mention the "Manyak Cum Laude" anymore

Think it will help if you cut and paste the threads and make him read them? Editing out all incriminating details of course.

Carrot: Bring along your dad. I'll keep him entertained with stories about the adventures of the frozen eagle. Plus, I have all these stories about the Sockless One which will surely keep him interested.

I promise not to wear the "If you can't go to college..." shirt.

By all means, bring memorabilia from 87/88 to the meeting. Would be good to see all the old t-shirts and whatnot. Wear em if they still fit.

Upperbox: If you want 87/88 memorabilia, boy, I've got tons of them! I opened my old closet and I found all my championship shirts including the 87 championship shirt which was sold by the Alumni office. I even found old cardigans, jackets, October medals, stickers and posters. (Aside: Just want to say that the shirts and jackets still fit!) I was also looking for the blue "bad sign" that was sold during the 88 championship. Maybe Holscher confiscated mine. Can't remember anymore.

Maybe I should donate this stufff to the Ateneo Archives someday or consign them to Sotheby's for auctioning. Paging Kim Camacho! Though her husband, La Sallite that he is, may end up torching my stash.

Yo Mav, were you by any chance one of the BBB members during the 87 -88 championship era?

Perhaps. You'll just have to go to the 14 Beers Project to find out for sure! Anyway, the precious BBB jackets still fit.

[ November 06, 2002: Message edited by: Maverick ]

Looks like the tribe has spoken.

There being no objections, the 14 beers project is tentatively set for the 23rd at the Libis area.

I have a friend who's the part owner of a bar/nightspot in Libis. Hopefully, he'll be generous enough to let us use the place and throw in a little freebies as well. I'll see if we can set up a TV to play the 87-88 vcds (if I get it from Pizza Guy in time) or games from this year's championship series.

Do we have an agenda/schedule of activities or is there anything we need (i.e. props, drums)? Baka kailangan ng icebreaker kasi magkaka-hiyaan ang mga tao. Ateneo memorabilia would be nice (and a sure fire ice-breaker).

Are we going to use name tags? There is a distinct possiblity of "identity theft". Personally, I wouldn't mind wearing a name tag. Finally, we might need a headcount, just to make sure we all fit in the venue .

Re icebreakers: we can make a game out of the whole identity thing. Let's start the evening by giving our basic details (real name, batch, course, current job, etc) and have everyone match people up with the pseudonyms. (For an attendance check we could get people to write their pseudonyms on strips of paper and throw them into a box). There may be some regulars who already know something of each other so we should probably excuse them from guessing on certain turns. Also, if Ghostrider acts like the host we'll know immediately who he is. Obviously any girls who turn up will be relatively easy to identify. Especially if they bring their parents :-).

Props for the rest of the evening: I was going to suggest a trampoline but the venue may be to small. But seriously - any memorabilia or tapes of games from the era would be nice.

[ November 07, 2002: Message edited by: Upper Box ]

The batch is a dead giveaway.



LOL isa pa to

Okay then, no batch. Just name, course, current job. Then three rounds of questions for everyone (max) and everybody guesses.

Re props -- all I can think of are paper, pens, box, name tags for later in the evening when we've all confessed. The stick on kind that says "Hi, my name is..." And can someone print out the threads so we can look at the record?

Memorabilia. Old copies of Guidon or Aegis. (Does Matanglawin have a sports section yet?)
Game tapes - VHS, not beta. Old shirts. Jerseys. Gusto ninyong mag-scavenger hunt? Here's my list: The dead Eagle. Danny Francisco's lung. The revolver Jet Nieto's father fired into the air at Rizal Memorial during an on-court brawl. The goalpost from Ninoy Aquino Stadium that fell on Sandy A. Cardona's high school transcript.

No major hassle bringing these, I think, as long as we can pin down responsibilities. Can I bring the paper napkins?

Icebreakers? Sounds like we're having a soiree!

I'll bring my stash of memorabilia to the gathering. I even used one of the old 88 shirts as a "lucky" shirt during the run-up to this year's championship.

Remember that "Great Champions Die Hard" shirt which we came out with after the 88 championship (and which Jun Reyes presented to the Sockless One at the one and only TV appearance of the Eagles in 88)? I first brought that shirt along with me for luck during the second round Ateneo - La Salle match. Since we won that match, I took it along to the next game I attended, the second Ateneo - UE game (the Gec Chia match). Since we also "miraculously" won that game, I concluded that the shirt was indeed "lucky" and, therefore, would be put to greater service during the championship series. Except for Game 2, the "lucky" shirt still has a pretty good record.

Sometimes my friends debate whether it was Rico or Wes or LA or Larry or Gec who was the key player who got us the championship. I always tell them: "You're all wrong. It's the lucky shirt, man!"

I was thinking of washing it recently then I thought of next year's campaign. Well, I guess that shirt will now join the ranks of the great unwashed!

1) I'll also bring my "hoard" of Guidon's featuring the 87 and 88 championships plus the Aegis 89 (which I merely borrowed). If I go completely overboard, I may convince someone to go to the Ateneo Archives and photocopy the accounts of the 69, 75 and 76 championships. (Anyone here on this thread who was in High School or College during the 75 - 77 championship run? I was still in grade school then. I have clear memories of that time but very selective. Would love to talk about the 70's championships.)

2) Dead Eagle - After all these years, maybe **** Gordon has forgotten about the incident and is more in control of himself as regards this issue. Maybe I can go to good old **** 's office in the DOT and say: "Excuse me, **** . You don't know me, **** , but 13 years ago I saw your eagle die! SOrry about that, **** . By the way, **** , where is it now? I'd like to bring it to a party, **** , if you don't mind." (Aside: I love the auto-censor feature of this forum!)

Washing will not affect the vibes. I wore almost the exact same outfit to Game 3 that I wore to the Sept. 14 game, except for the socks, I think...anyway, all of it was laundered except for the sneakers.

In fact, I think we lost Game 2 because, although I probably wore the same thing to that game, one article of clothing technically did not go through the entire laundering process

We lost game 2 because it was the only one of the championship games I watched live, ha ha.

Sorry, beating up on myself again. But I've always been wary of times when I might have been malas for the team. Like showing up in the middle of a winning streak and then seeing the team lose. It's a weird fan superstition. Surely everyone here knows the feeling.

I know how you feel. I remember coming home from game 2 and hearing the MRT driver (obviously a DLSU graduate/alumni LOL) congratulate the Archers.

I didn't want to jinx the team, that why I sold my game 3 tickets (which I had patiently lined up for at 1am) to my friend at cost.

However, I was there during Gec's miracle shot. You can see in the slo-mos going bananas as the shot went in.