Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: BAYANI FERNANDO
Welcome to Atenista.Net! > Current Issues > National Issues
Pages: 1, 2
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
i heard from a friend that BF has plans of installing cameras in the metro. i mean, just like the ones in london. whenever you commit a violation, they'll come to you with a video evidence and issue the sanctions. what you think on this? pwede kaya 'to? feeling ko mananakaw lang yung mga cams e.. hehe biggrin.gif
rada_mae
okei sya.. at least nakikita mong may ginagawa sya.. imbes date..
Raistlin
dapat ngayon pa lang, mag-train na sila ng backup kay bayani... para tuloy-tuloy... olats kapag 1 shot improvement lang e.

siguro mga 3 term na ka-ugali ni bayani, magiging astig pinas... (or at least luzon muna)
alpha quadrant
thumbs up for bayani

he's d only govt official who put his talking into actions.... unlike all the grandstanding tongressmen and sinators...
mac_bolan00
i've been calling the MMDA hotline for some time now. as always, i get vague answers to my question:

what are they going to do with the sidewalks along quezon avenue AFTER demolishing the illegal structures. pulverising illegal structures along sidewalks is fine. in fact, it's fun. however, pedestrialns are left with NO SIDEWALKS, just mounds of rubble. come rainy season, you're going to get mud and silt. two officemates of mine got sideswept because they had to walk on the asphalt.
Raistlin
QUOTE
Originally posted by alpha quadrant:
unlike all the grandstanding tongressmen and sinators...


haha! SINators!
raggster
he can sing too! biggrin.gif
Belle
He's great. Focused on what he's doing, knows how to strategize, sincere and very down-to-earth. I mean, who had really evaluated the way we have been addressing our traffic or waste management concerns? It's just him, really.

To him, he has only one purpose in the community: to do his job --- now that's what governance is all about!
kiddo-
i hate him, he's not makamasa. :mad: i actually don't mind those demolitions, as long as they relocate them!
Mr. Baseball
QUOTE
Originally posted by kiddo-:
i hate him, he's not makamasa. :mad: i actually don't mind those demolitions, as long as they relocate them!


What's wrong with being "not makamasa"? He is only doing his job. Nagkataon lang kasi yung masa ang tinamaan sa trabaho niya kaya mukhang hindi siya "makamasa".

Tell me, would you like a "masa" leader like Erap who doesn't get much done or a "not makamasa" guy like BF who gets the job done? Leadership is service to the people. It's about getting the job done. Service doesn't necessarily mean letting people get away with everything, like setting up sidewalk stores that clog up traffic or letting empty buses contribute to traffic, etc. Sometimes, we need an iron fist to govern our country. Our leaders have been too lax. It's about time someone went in and got serious with the whole matter.

If BF runs for president, I'd vote for him.
saduhara
puputulin ng MMDA ang karamihan sa mga puno sa Katipunan Ave.!!! yung iba i-rerelocate.

para daw lumuwag sa trapik. ano masasabi nyo?
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
QUOTE
Originally posted by saduhara:
puputulin ng MMDA ang karamihan sa mga puno sa Katipunan Ave.!!! yung iba i-rerelocate.

para daw lumuwag sa trapik. ano masasabi nyo?



what?! ayaw.. smile.gif teka, nasan ba yung mga puno sa katipunan? wala kong maisip na malaking puno na nakasasagabal sa trapiko..
-=+=-
Mr. Baseball
QUOTE
Originally posted by saduhara:
puputulin ng MMDA ang karamihan sa mga puno sa Katipunan Ave.!!! yung iba i-rerelocate.

para daw lumuwag sa trapik. ano masasabi nyo?


I don't see any trees that hinder the flow of traffic at Katipunan Ave, unless of course, he's talking about the little island in front of McDo that streches all the way to La Vista. Well, at least, he's re-planting them.
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
QUOTE
Originally posted by Mr. Baseball:
I don't see any trees that hinder the flow of traffic at Katipunan Ave, unless of course, he's talking about the little island in front of McDo that streches all the way to La Vista. Well, at least, he's re-planting them.


may mga puno ba 'don? i think the island should remain, kase if tatanggalin yon, madaming kups na driver ang magseswerve all the way from the left to the right.. kaya mahaharangan ung mga dederetso.. smile.gif
==+==
Mr. Baseball
QUOTE
Originally posted by ++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++:
may mga puno ba 'don? i think the island should remain, kase if tatanggalin yon, madaming kups na driver ang magseswerve all the way from the left to the right.. kaya mahaharangan ung mga dederetso..   smile.gif


Yeah, there are a row of trees on that island. I wonder if that's what BF's referring to... :confused:
raggster
QUOTE
Originally posted by kiddo-:
i hate him, he's not makamasa.   :mad: i actually don't mind those demolitions, as long as they relocate them!


actually, you can blame the mayors for that, because it's their job to make a relocation site available for sidewalk vendors and squatters. granted, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of communication between Bayani's office and the offices of the mayors, but it is nonetheless the responsibility of the mayors.
Mr. Baseball
QUOTE
Originally posted by raggster:
actually, you can blame the mayors for that, because it's their job to make a relocation site available for sidewalk vendors and squatters. granted, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of communication between Bayani's office and the offices of the mayors, but it is nonetheless the responsibility of the mayors.


True. And I also dislike mayors having their own rules in their cities. Hindi tuloy maayos-ayos yung number coding kasi yung ibang cities hindi sumusunod. :mad: I really think the MMDA must be superior to the mayors so that there is only one law followed.
++Artificielle++ ++Intelligence++
well, wala naman masama kung merong unique laws sa isang city, i mean, if a law is suggested, tas hindi naaprove for whatever reason, okey lang siguro na implemented yon sa isang city or 2. like yung sa marikina, ung bawal topless for the guys. since hindi siya naaprove for the whole country[kung tototo man ito] then okey lang na implemented siya sa marikina. about yung coding, okey rin lang kung hindi siya implemented in a particular city kung hindi naman kelangan. just think, kung may coding kunyare sa bicol, eh hindi naman kelangan, useless, hassle pa.. smile.gif ang asar sa coding, maraming nakakalusot, i mean yung mga may special treatment. yun ung asar talaga. actually, miski ung mga nagpapastop dahil may dadaan na kung sino, kinaiinisan ko. come on! taste your own medicine.. mali yatang quote.. pano maiisip ung solution sa problem kung hindi niyo naman eexperience ung problem? :mad:
walang special calling, only specific.--> one of the few things i remember from th141 hehe biggrin.gif


about the trees: wag nang tanggalin no! for the reasons i've posted already smile.gif

about the demolitions: dapat nga may relocation, kase baka mamatay lang sila kung walang matuluyan.

basta dapat walang bira lang ng bira..
==+==
Batangenyong_henyo
Nakita ko nagsisimula na yung pag-aalis noong mga puno...ilan na nga ay naputol na......Nakakalungkot laNG

For the trees...Di ko makita kung bakit kinakailangan putulin yun..para maging "solution"for the traffic??? Umm, 3 years na ako rito at wala pa ako na-experience na grabe na traffic dito sa Katipunan unlike in Cubao o North Expressway...Kung iisipin ang nag-cause ng traffic talaga rito ay ang mga students.... Doon sa gate 2, every morning, may mahaba ng pila kasi maraming kotse na papuntang Ateneo... They are taking half of the road para lang makapasok sa gate thus blocking other cars.........

Doon sa dumpsite, parang ni-report sa Sci-10 class namin na ang dumpsite ng Marikina (not sure) ay yung isang dead river...tapos para di mabaho, nilalagyan nila ng "perfume"....

Sa mga vendors, it would really help na paalisin sila kasi inaagawan na tayo ng sidewalk ng mga vendors, sometimes pati road kinukuha.....Pero kung iisipin,sana may plano na i-relocate sila...Kahit papaano, marangal ang trabaho nila (maliban na lang kung illegal ang mga produkto nila)...At ano na ang mangyayari sa kanila kung mawalan na sila ng income??? As if lahat sila ay college graduate o kahit high school, o maraming jobs available.......Mas mabuti nga yung maging vendor kaysa maging magnanakaw, kidnapper o pusher (duh!)....

Sa cameras...cool pero too expensive..
saduhara
From the http://www.bwf.org/balikas/2003/22/ed_01.shtml


Pamumuno
Mukhang ang pakahulugan ni Bayani Fernando sa kanyang "pamumuno" sa Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) ay pamumutol ng puno. Ito ang pinagkakabalahan ngayon ng MMDA, at ang kanilang unang biktima ay mga punongkahoy sa Lansangang Katipunan sa Lungsod Quezon.

Para sa pinuno ng MMDA na si Bayani Fernando, masama ang mga puno sa Kalakhang Maynila, lalo na yaong nakatanim sa "center island" ng mga lansangan. Kailangan raw alisin ang mga puno para lumuwang ang mga lansangan at lunasan ang malubhang trapiko. Sinisisi pa ni Fernando na ang mga puno ay nakakadagdag sa pagbaha sa Kalakhang Maynila dahil ang mga ugat raw nito ay pumipigil sa tubig.

Kahit bata pa lamang tayo, itinuturo na sa atin ang kahalagahan ng mga puno. Tagapagbigay ng lilim, tagabuga ng oxygen at tagahigop ng carbon dioxide pampaganda ng paligid at marami pang iba. Kung tutuusin, kapos ang dahilan ni Fernando na nagdudulot ito ng pagbaha: napakarami pang dahilan ng pagbaha, at ang pinakamatindi ay malubhang suliranin ng Kalakhang Maynila sa basura at pagkaubos rin ng mga puno sa mga kabundukang malapit sa punong lungsod.

Lalong mahalaga para sa isang lansangang tulad ng Katipunan ang mga puno, kahit paano’y makakatulong ito na masagap ang polusyong ibinubuga ng mga sasakyan (bagama't hindi natin masasabing sapat ang pagsagap nila).

Huli na marahil na ibalik sa Grade 1 ang mga pinuno ng MMDA, nguni’t marapat nating itanong kung hanggang saan at para kanino ba ang isinasagawa nilang pagpapaluwang ng mga lansangan at daanan ng tao.

Halimbawa, naging "popular" ang pinuno ng MMDA na si Bayani Fernando dahil sa pagpapalayas niya sa mga nagtitinda sa lansangan at bangketa. Saanman sa Kalakhang Maynila, makakakita ka ng karatulang "Sidewalks are for people" (ang tabing-daan ay para sa mga tao).

Nguni't paano naman ang magkakatabing poste ng magkakaibang kumpanya ng telepono sa mga bangketa, na dahil magkakatabi ay hindi na halos makadaan ang mga tao? Paano naman ang mga bangketa na ginawang paradahan ng mga kotse? Hindi pa natin nakita ang MMDA na nagbuhos ng gaas sa mga poste ng mayayamang kumpanya at kotseng pag-aari ng mga maykaya.

Mga mahihirap na mamamayan lang ba pinag-iinitan ng MMDA?

Kung tutuusin, mayayaman rin naman ang dahilan kung bakit napakasikip ng Lansangang Katipunan. Ang lansangang ito ay daanan ng mga sasakyan patungo sa mga pangmayamang paaralan tulad ng Ateneo de Manila at Miriam College (maraming nagsasabi na kasama rin daw dito ang pambansang pamantasan, ang UP), kung saan ang maging ang mga mag-aaral ay nagmamaneho ng sasakyan.

Nguni’t ang mga walang kalaban-labang punongkahoy, pinag-iinitan, ang mga sasakyang nagpapasikip ng trapiko ay hindi.

Malaking hamon sa gawi ng pamumuhay o lifestyle ng mga dumaraan sa Katipunan, gayundin sa edukayong ibinibigay ng mga paaralan malapit dito, ang trapiko sa lansangang kanilang dinadaanan. Nakahanda ba silang iwasang mag-kotse sa pagpasok o bawasan ang paggamit ng kanilang pribadong sasakyan, alang-alang sa ikaluluwang ng mga lansangan? O patuloy nilang susundin ang kanilang luho kahit masakripisyo ang ating kapaligiran?

Malaking hamon rin ito sa lahat, lalo na yaong mga naninirahan at ang kabuhayan ay nakasalalay sa Kalakhang Maynila. Ang pamumuno bang hangad natin ay pamumutol ng puno, o yaong nagtataguyod ng paggalang para sa daigdig at buhay?

Paano ba hihikayatin si Fernando na baguhin ang kanyang mga pananaw sa kalikasan? Napakahabang panahon ang kailangan upang lumago ang puno, nguni't sandali lamang ang kailangan sa pagputol dito. Baka hindi na sila makapaghintay.
melie
QUOTE
Originally posted by saduhara:
puputulin ng MMDA ang karamihan sa mga puno sa Katipunan Ave.!!! yung iba i-rerelocate.

para daw lumuwag sa trapik. ano masasabi nyo?

kung ire-relocate naman, okay lang. pero kung hindi, aba, masama un. pero as if naman ang dami ng magagawa para hindi mapigilan un o ano.
Belle
QUOTE
Originally posted by kiddo-:
i hate him, he's not makamasa.   :mad: i actually don't mind those demolitions, as long as they relocate them!


I have listened to him in a forum once, about illegal vending, and I think he does care for the poor, it's just that some of the vendors really use their plight as an excuse not to obey laws. Kasi may mga associations of vendors naman doon na nagagawan ng paraan yung (alleged) high costs sa tindahan eh, oh kaya nakikipag-negotiate sa mga nagma-manage ng mga marketplaces para babaan yung rent.

Sa tingin ko, BF is reasonable and sympathetic to the poor, but he also wants to implement what MMDA is mandated to do, which is to make our streets conducive to safe and clean transportation. Yun naman talaga, di ba? Isa pa, kailangan talagang sumunod ang mga tao.
Belle
QUOTE
Originally posted by kiddo-:
i hate him, he's not makamasa.   :mad: i actually don't mind those demolitions, as long as they relocate them!


It's not that he's not makamasa, he just doesn't want to tolerate that mentality that you can be excused from obeying laws just because (you're saying) you're poor.

There are other ways of dealing with expensive marketplace stalls, for instance, than just resorting to illegal vending on the streets. For instance, there is an association of vendors that negotiated with their local governments to bring down the price of stall rents in the public market.
Belle
QUOTE
Originally posted by kiddo-:
i hate him, he's not makamasa.   :mad: i actually don't mind those demolitions, as long as they relocate them!


It's not that he's not makamasa, he just doesn't want to tolerate that mentality that you can be excused from obeying laws just because (you're saying) you're poor.

There are other ways of dealing with expensive marketplace stalls, for instance, than just resorting to illegal vending on the streets. For instance, there is an association of vendors that negotiated with their local governments to bring down the price of stall rents in the public market.
Belle
QUOTE
Originally posted by kiddo-:
i hate him, he's not makamasa.   :mad: i actually don't mind those demolitions, as long as they relocate them!


It's not that he's not makamasa, he just doesn't want to tolerate that mentality that you can be excused from obeying laws just because (you're saying) you're poor.

There are other ways of dealing with expensive marketplace stalls, for instance, than just resorting to illegal vending on the streets. For instance, there is an association of vendors that negotiated with their local governments to bring down the price of stall rents in the public market.
Bleachers King
BF and MCF are a new breed of public servants. Their workday is rather incredible and real exhausting. BF is up and off at 5am while MCF at 7am. They're at home around 9pm or in BF's case, around 1AM! They rarely pause for meals as they've got quite a lot of work. The funny thing is even Tala, their daughter has to make an appointment to see their folks when outside their house.

The other day, during People's Day in Marikina (that's every Thursday) where residents have a one-on-one audience with the Mayor, this rather unkempt looking but well-built man asked MCF for a job! MCF asked if he had tried applying for one to which he replied no. MCF told him off rather nicely that before she can even begin to help he has to do something for himself! Oo nga naman, a lot of residents chorused.

And today nga, a rather nosy socialite who barged into the Mayor's room during a meeting was politely dismissed (no sarcasm or harsh words at all despite a rather exasperated look by the Mayor) by MCF!

Kay BF naman, according to his bodyguards, the man has no intentions of running for senator. He'd rather implement laws than create them! He's a man of action not just words.

More power to this Power Couple!!!
biggrin.gif
blukatips
this is perhaps the product of post-marcos era-- the rise of a qualified (under the law) political candidate with such strong political will. President GMA, BF have emerged to usher a new politics.
forgotten.soul.of.the.abyss
hay naku people! some people would prefer to be right rather than to be happy. matanong ko nga muna kayo: sino sa mga naging MMDA officials ang bestna naalala nyo? pangalawang tanong: anong mga nagawa nito para manatiling best sya sa inyong palagay? my god! i can't even remember the previous MMDA chairmen and their works of art. ngayon lang ako humanga sa MMDA dahil at least ngayon alam ko na may ginagawa sila. things MMDA did this year that really impressed me: clearing of sidewalk vendors - go to baclaran on an ordinary day and you will not be able to pass through not because of the crowd but because of the vendors. actually, hindi nga sila sidewalk vendors e. road vendors dahil pati yung main street sakop nila. pass through baclaran now and you will ask yourself if you are really in baclaran or not.

pangalawa, the MMDA art. astig kaya! instead of repainting the entire edifice or structure (dahil siguradong ivavadalize ng mga vandals uli), naisipan ni BF na gawing mas colorful and creative ang mga pagpaparepaint nya. o di ba, mas nakita yung "artistic" side ng MMDA?

pangatlo, the continuous flow of traffic...well at least for some areas esp in mandaluyong, makati, marikina and marcos highway. noon, you really have to leave early esp kung nakatira ka sa cainta. maryosep, pwede ka na mag-aral at gumawa ng homework sa jeep sa sobrang tagal kahihintay. now, in a matter of minutes, i can now travel from cainta to ateneo without the drastic pressures of traffic.

pang-apat, yung MMDA mini infirmary nila. hindi drivers ang nakikinabang kung hindi yung mga commuters and the common people.

ang tingin lang kasi natin na masyadong harsh yung sistema ng discipline nya. observe marikina. that city wouldn't be as progressive and as clean if not for the iron-fisted discipline BF implemented and executed. most of us complain the bigger issue, but we are also close to solutions. rome was not built on a day. let's admit it: tayo yung mga hindi disiplinado...kaya naman tayo ang nagrereklamo sa mga pagbabago. we are not used to change. we demand the authorities to do their job, and now that they are doing their job, reklamo pa rin tayo. sala sa init, sala sa lamig.

some people would rather be right than to be happy.
Mr. Baseball
QUOTE
Originally posted by kabesang tales:
hay naku people! some people would prefer to be right rather than to be happy. matanong ko nga muna kayo: sino sa mga naging MMDA officials ang [b]bestna naalala nyo? pangalawang tanong: anong mga nagawa nito para manatiling best sya sa inyong palagay? my god! i can't even remember the previous MMDA chairmen and their works of art. ngayon lang ako humanga sa MMDA dahil at least ngayon alam ko na may ginagawa sila. things MMDA did this year that really impressed me: clearing of sidewalk vendors - go to baclaran on an ordinary day and you will not be able to pass through not because of the crowd but because of the vendors. actually, hindi nga sila sidewalk vendors e. road vendors dahil pati yung main street sakop nila. pass through baclaran now and you will ask yourself if you are really in baclaran or not.

pangalawa, the MMDA art. astig kaya! instead of repainting the entire edifice or structure (dahil siguradong ivavadalize ng mga vandals uli), naisipan ni BF na gawing mas colorful and creative ang mga pagpaparepaint nya. o di ba, mas nakita yung "artistic" side ng MMDA?

pangatlo, the continuous flow of traffic...well at least for some areas esp in mandaluyong, makati, marikina and marcos highway. noon, you really have to leave early esp kung nakatira ka sa cainta. maryosep, pwede ka na mag-aral at gumawa ng homework sa jeep sa sobrang tagal kahihintay. now, in a matter of minutes, i can now travel from cainta to ateneo without the drastic pressures of traffic.

pang-apat, yung MMDA mini infirmary nila. hindi drivers ang nakikinabang kung hindi yung mga commuters and the common people.

ang tingin lang kasi natin na masyadong harsh yung sistema ng discipline nya. observe marikina. that city wouldn't be as progressive and as clean if not for the iron-fisted discipline BF implemented and executed. most of us complain the bigger issue, but we are also close to solutions. rome was not built on a day. let's admit it: tayo yung mga hindi disiplinado...kaya naman tayo ang nagrereklamo sa mga pagbabago. we are not used to change. we demand the authorities to do their job, and now that they are doing their job, reklamo pa rin tayo. sala sa init, sala sa lamig.

some people would rather be right than to be happy.[/B]


I agree with you. We need politicians like BF who really mean business.
Les Infanterie
QUOTE
Originally posted by Mr. Baseball:
I agree with you. We need politicians like BF who really mean business.


politicians with strong political will! i can now see improvement!

bf for president? rolleyes.gif
Mr. Baseball
QUOTE
Originally posted by Les Infanterie:
politicians with strong political will! i can now see improvement!

bf for president?    :rolleyes:


He'd make a big difference if he runs and wins. But I doubt he will win because the "masa" don't like him.
blukatips
If BF is elected VP in the 2004 elections, he vows to build better roads and an efficient , affordable transport system. BF also sees the need to rehabilitate the Phil National Railways as a major transport system.
Mr. Baseball
QUOTE
Originally posted by blukatips:
If  BF  is  elected  VP  in  the  2004  elections, he  vows to  build  better  roads  and  an efficient , affordable  transport system.  BF  also  sees  the  need  to  rehabilitate  the Phil  National  Railways  as  a  major  transport  system.


Actually, I think the trains will make good transportation. I can't wait till all the MRT/LRT lines get done. It will be easier to go around Manila that way. Walang traffic!
lass
BF's a good one because the public can see where their money go, that it's not wasted. There are improvements - really. Nice.

I wonder what will happen next after the 2004 elections...
Mr. Baseball
QUOTE
Originally posted by lass:
BF's a good one because the public can see where their money go, that it's not wasted. There are improvements - really. Nice.

I wonder what will happen next after the 2004 elections...


He's not gonna win. Ayaw sa kanya ng masa. Bet on it.
blukatips
QUOTE
Originally posted by Mr. Baseball:
He'd make a big difference if he runs and wins. But I doubt he will win because the "masa" don't like him.



It IS the electorate who will determine. And just who exactly is the masa you are referring to. Inasmuch as they comprise the voting bulk, the numbers game could also spell possible large-scale vote-buying.
It is obvious why it was adopted by erap and other "charisma-tic" persons. It is open to abuse.


By setting back the economy with more masa, erap et al used the term masa just so that they would be assured of votes among the poverty line and not out of a genuine concern for the poor.
lass
QUOTE
Originally posted by Mr. Baseball:
He's not gonna win. Ayaw sa kanya ng masa. Bet on it.


Yeah, guess so. Mukha nga eh, malabo. Yung masa, madaling madala sa sabi-sabi. They easily believe hearsays bout a certain politician and if they feel it's true, they'll barge into the streets holding "plakards".. haha. Maybe, I'm just exaggerating.. or not?

I hate it when that happens..
christoff_rulez
my thread pala for bf.. harhar.
_charmed.arts
QUOTE(Chief Wahoo @ Oct 24 2003, 07:34 AM) *
QUOTE
Originally posted by lass:
BF's a good one because the public can see where their money go, that it's not wasted. There are improvements - really. Nice.

I wonder what will happen next after the 2004 elections...


He's not gonna win. Ayaw sa kanya ng masa. Bet on it.


Yeah. I think the same. Sure magaling siya, pero ung improvement niya sa MM is kind of against sa poor - diba wala na yung mga beggars sa streets? Tapos yung tawiran, mapipilitan ka talaga tumawid sa tamang tawiran. So wala nang jaywalkers - well kokonti nalang. So ung mga kinagawian ng mga pinoy medyo natangal na dahil sa mga projects niya. The poor has often expressed their displeasure to BF, and they outnumber most of the people who likes him.
dennis
Ang akin lang naman eh ganito: BF put up all the new steel pedestrian over pass all over Metro Manila but in so doing, the older cement structures were also demolished. In Commonwealth alone, three or four such overpasses were destroyed to give way to the new ones. Eh ginastusan din yun ah! I think, the old and the new could be used and if may kulang ang luma,aayusin.

Yung sa Eastwood Libis na dapat malagay, di nya kayang gawin kasi kinokontra ng Citibank. Pag big biz na pala kokontra, tiklop na si MMDA King.
Les Infanterie
kasi hindi ba may parang tro issued by the rtc sa construction noon??
sumusunod lang muna siya sa tawag ng batas. pero kung wala, malamang on-going na ang construction.
Les Infanterie
QUOTE(_charmed.arts @ Jun 10 2007, 06:32 AM) *
QUOTE(Chief Wahoo @ Oct 24 2003, 07:34 AM) *
QUOTE
Originally posted by lass:
BF's a good one because the public can see where their money go, that it's not wasted. There are improvements - really. Nice.

I wonder what will happen next after the 2004 elections...


He's not gonna win. Ayaw sa kanya ng masa. Bet on it.


Yeah. I think the same. Sure magaling siya, pero ung improvement niya sa MM is kind of against sa poor - diba wala na yung mga beggars sa streets? Tapos yung tawiran, mapipilitan ka talaga tumawid sa tamang tawiran. So wala nang jaywalkers - well kokonti nalang. So ung mga kinagawian ng mga pinoy medyo natangal na dahil sa mga projects niya. The poor has often expressed their displeasure to BF, and they outnumber most of the people who likes him.



parang gusto mo may beggars sa sidewalks at mga jaywalkers na maaring maaksidente at nagiging hazard pa para sa motorists???
siguro sila lang ang naapi kasi sila ang wala sa tamang lugar. tama bang mag squat sa sidewalk? siguro para sa benefit ng karamihan lang naman ang iniisip ni BF. you cannot please everyone, sabi nga nila. pero mas mabuti na rin at nadadala sa mga shelter at sa dswd ang mga beggars at mga batang palaboy.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2012 Invision Power Services, Inc.