Full Version: all about law school pls!
hi! honestly, i don't have a clear idea on how to enter law school. are the entrance exams just like the college entrance exams except of course that it is more difficult? when does application start for those who would enter law school next year(SY 2002-2003)? when is the entrance exam? any tips on how to pass the entrance exam? thanks a lot! :confused:
hi, you might want to read this FAQ for Ateneo law school application: http://www.atenista.net/faq-als
hmmm i've read the FAQ for the ALS, but what i want to know is other people's VIEW about the ALS entrance exam. i want to pursue law studies but i'm worried if i can pass the ALS entrance exam. i really want to enter ALS rather than any other law schools in the country. i want to know how hard the entrance exam is. i want to know if i'd pass the exam. how many persons usually pass the entrance exam??? how many percent passes??? how many are taking the exams??? is it DIFFICULT???
Yes, it is difficult, just like other things in life that are worth pursuing.
[ February 21, 2002: Message edited by: Le Coq Bleu ]
[ February 21, 2002: Message edited by: Le Coq Bleu ]
my God, if i failed the ALS entrance exam, what school would accept me?!?
Try mo 'to, got this from a friend:
Civil Code, Art. 1522. Where the seller delivers to the buyer a quantity of goods less than he contracted to sell, the buyer may reject them, but if the buyer accepts or retains the goods so delivered, knowing that the seller is not going to perform the contract in full, he must pay for them at contract rate. If however, the buyer has used or disposed of the goods delivered before he knows that the seller is not going to perform his contract in full, the buyer shall not be obliged for more than the fair value to him of goods so received.
Where the seller delivers to the buyer a quantity of goods larger than he contracted to sell, the buyer may accept the goods included in the contract and reject the rest. If the buyer accepts the whole of the goods so delivered he must pay for them at contract rate.
1. A purchases a set of books from B worth P500. In exchange, A executes a promissory note in favor of B worth P600. When the promissory note matures, can B demand from A the full P600?
A. Yes. Art. 1522 applies because when a quantity of goods larger than contracted is delivered, the person may accept the goods. B will just have to give an additional book.
B. Yes. Art. 1522 applies. B may just accept the payment and return the P100 excess.
C. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because the relationship between A & B is not buyer and seller.
D. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because what was delivered to B was not goods, since promissory notes are not goods.
2. X orders a set of metallic letters from Y. Y delivers them, but does not deliver the letter "Y". X accepts them and pays for all the letters except "Y". Later, Y claims that since the obligation was to deliver a set of metallic letters, the non-delivery of the letter "Y" is equivalent to non-fulfillment of the obligation, and demands that X should return all the letters, and Y will return the price paid. Can Y demand this?
A. Yes. Art. 1522 applies because X should have ascertained if Y intended to perform the contract in full before paying the contract rate.
B. Yes. Art. 1522 applies the buyer shall be obliged for the full value of the thing delivered. Not having paid the full value, X should return.
C. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because the relationship that exists between them is not buyer and seller but creditor and debtor.
D. No. Art. 1522 grants the right to the buyer to accept the goods and waive delivery of the other goods.
Revised Penal Code, Art. 3. Acts and omissions punishable by law are felonies.
Felonies are committed not only by means of deceit but also by means of fault.
There is deceit when the act is performed with deliberate intent; and there is fault when the wrongful act results from imprudence, negligence, lack of foresight, or lack of skill.
3. Mike Tan works in the factory of Manny Dy. One day, Mike Tan slips on the carpet in the factory. Can Manny Dy be held liable under Art. 3?
A. Yes. Art. 3 applies because there was negligence on the part of Manny Dy.
B. Yes. Art. 3 applies because felonies are committed not only by means of deceit but also by means of fault.
C. No. Art. 3 does not apply because there must be an act or omission punishable by law. There is no law requiring persons to keep the carpet from being slip-free.
D. No. Art. 3 does not apply because although there was imprudence, negligence, lack of foresight and lack of skill on the part of Manny Dy, there was no deliberate intent.
4. Sec. 31 of the Omnibus Election Code requires candidates for Vice President to declare their campaign expenses. X, a candidate for Vice President, spent P5,000 but did not declare this. Can X be made liable under Art. 3 of the RPC?
A. Yes. Art. 3 applies because an act was required and the act was not done by X.
B. Yes. Art. 3 applies because there was deceit on the part of X when he escaped the payment of taxes.
C. No. Art. 3 does not apply because the act of non-payment of tax is not punishable by law.
D. No. Art. 3 does not apply because X, although negligent in not filing the report, did not do so out of lack of skill or foresight.
Civil Code, Art. 1179. Every obligation whose performance does not depend upon a future or uncertain event, or upon a past event unknown to the parties, is demandable at once.
5. X sees the red car of Y and says he would like to buy it and will pay for it in cash tomorrow. Y says, "I agree." After giving X the car keys and executing the deed of sale, Y demands payment immediately. Is Y entitled to immediate payment?
A. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because when the performance is not dependent on a condition, it is demandable at once.
B. Yes. Art. 1179 applies Y having given the car, is entitled to immediate payment.
C. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because although payment is demandable at once, Y should grant X some extension out of good faith.
D. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because the performance is not dependent on a condition. Performance here is set on a definite date, which is tomorrow.
6. X sees the red car of Y and he says he would like to buy it and will pay for it in cash when his book gets published. Y says, "I agree." The next day, Y sees a yellow car and he wants to buy it and needs money. He demands immediate payment from X. X does not want to pay because he says he will pay only when his book gets published. Is X correct?
A. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because the payment is conditioned on a future or uncertain event, the publication of the book.
B. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because the performance is set to depend on a past event unknown to the parties.
C. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because the book of X may never be published, and Y would never be paid.
D. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because even when the performance is based on a future or uncertain event, it may be demandable at once in case of extreme need by the other party.
[ February 23, 2002: Message edited by: 8210 ]
Civil Code, Art. 1522. Where the seller delivers to the buyer a quantity of goods less than he contracted to sell, the buyer may reject them, but if the buyer accepts or retains the goods so delivered, knowing that the seller is not going to perform the contract in full, he must pay for them at contract rate. If however, the buyer has used or disposed of the goods delivered before he knows that the seller is not going to perform his contract in full, the buyer shall not be obliged for more than the fair value to him of goods so received.
Where the seller delivers to the buyer a quantity of goods larger than he contracted to sell, the buyer may accept the goods included in the contract and reject the rest. If the buyer accepts the whole of the goods so delivered he must pay for them at contract rate.
1. A purchases a set of books from B worth P500. In exchange, A executes a promissory note in favor of B worth P600. When the promissory note matures, can B demand from A the full P600?
A. Yes. Art. 1522 applies because when a quantity of goods larger than contracted is delivered, the person may accept the goods. B will just have to give an additional book.
B. Yes. Art. 1522 applies. B may just accept the payment and return the P100 excess.
C. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because the relationship between A & B is not buyer and seller.
D. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because what was delivered to B was not goods, since promissory notes are not goods.
2. X orders a set of metallic letters from Y. Y delivers them, but does not deliver the letter "Y". X accepts them and pays for all the letters except "Y". Later, Y claims that since the obligation was to deliver a set of metallic letters, the non-delivery of the letter "Y" is equivalent to non-fulfillment of the obligation, and demands that X should return all the letters, and Y will return the price paid. Can Y demand this?
A. Yes. Art. 1522 applies because X should have ascertained if Y intended to perform the contract in full before paying the contract rate.
B. Yes. Art. 1522 applies the buyer shall be obliged for the full value of the thing delivered. Not having paid the full value, X should return.
C. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because the relationship that exists between them is not buyer and seller but creditor and debtor.
D. No. Art. 1522 grants the right to the buyer to accept the goods and waive delivery of the other goods.
Revised Penal Code, Art. 3. Acts and omissions punishable by law are felonies.
Felonies are committed not only by means of deceit but also by means of fault.
There is deceit when the act is performed with deliberate intent; and there is fault when the wrongful act results from imprudence, negligence, lack of foresight, or lack of skill.
3. Mike Tan works in the factory of Manny Dy. One day, Mike Tan slips on the carpet in the factory. Can Manny Dy be held liable under Art. 3?
A. Yes. Art. 3 applies because there was negligence on the part of Manny Dy.
B. Yes. Art. 3 applies because felonies are committed not only by means of deceit but also by means of fault.
C. No. Art. 3 does not apply because there must be an act or omission punishable by law. There is no law requiring persons to keep the carpet from being slip-free.
D. No. Art. 3 does not apply because although there was imprudence, negligence, lack of foresight and lack of skill on the part of Manny Dy, there was no deliberate intent.
4. Sec. 31 of the Omnibus Election Code requires candidates for Vice President to declare their campaign expenses. X, a candidate for Vice President, spent P5,000 but did not declare this. Can X be made liable under Art. 3 of the RPC?
A. Yes. Art. 3 applies because an act was required and the act was not done by X.
B. Yes. Art. 3 applies because there was deceit on the part of X when he escaped the payment of taxes.
C. No. Art. 3 does not apply because the act of non-payment of tax is not punishable by law.
D. No. Art. 3 does not apply because X, although negligent in not filing the report, did not do so out of lack of skill or foresight.
Civil Code, Art. 1179. Every obligation whose performance does not depend upon a future or uncertain event, or upon a past event unknown to the parties, is demandable at once.
5. X sees the red car of Y and says he would like to buy it and will pay for it in cash tomorrow. Y says, "I agree." After giving X the car keys and executing the deed of sale, Y demands payment immediately. Is Y entitled to immediate payment?
A. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because when the performance is not dependent on a condition, it is demandable at once.
B. Yes. Art. 1179 applies Y having given the car, is entitled to immediate payment.
C. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because although payment is demandable at once, Y should grant X some extension out of good faith.
D. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because the performance is not dependent on a condition. Performance here is set on a definite date, which is tomorrow.
6. X sees the red car of Y and he says he would like to buy it and will pay for it in cash when his book gets published. Y says, "I agree." The next day, Y sees a yellow car and he wants to buy it and needs money. He demands immediate payment from X. X does not want to pay because he says he will pay only when his book gets published. Is X correct?
A. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because the payment is conditioned on a future or uncertain event, the publication of the book.
B. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because the performance is set to depend on a past event unknown to the parties.
C. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because the book of X may never be published, and Y would never be paid.
D. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because even when the performance is based on a future or uncertain event, it may be demandable at once in case of extreme need by the other party.
[ February 23, 2002: Message edited by: 8210 ]
I am quite intrigued by the quotation of Article 1522 of the Revise Civil Code and Article 3 of the Revise Penal Code by 8210.
I quite remember when this article 1522 was discussed in our class by Mr. Justice Pompeyo Diaz. If I recall correctly this article refers only to purchase in bulk or by measurements. It does not refer to the sale of law books. Please refer to Sanchez Roman or Jose Maria Manresa for their commentaries.
Then again in Article 3 - RPP - I am sure the late Justice L.B. Reyes has a clear - Pepe & Pilar comment on the distinction between delits and culpas (crimes & faults) - a further reading of Cuello Callon and other spanish commentators will be in order. You see, the difficulties in understanding these concepts were the by products of the Anglo-American System of crimes when merged with the Continental-Napoleonic system that was in vogue in the Philippines shortly after the turn of the century. - I am sorry history sometimes is a big bore.
I quite remember when this article 1522 was discussed in our class by Mr. Justice Pompeyo Diaz. If I recall correctly this article refers only to purchase in bulk or by measurements. It does not refer to the sale of law books. Please refer to Sanchez Roman or Jose Maria Manresa for their commentaries.
Then again in Article 3 - RPP - I am sure the late Justice L.B. Reyes has a clear - Pepe & Pilar comment on the distinction between delits and culpas (crimes & faults) - a further reading of Cuello Callon and other spanish commentators will be in order. You see, the difficulties in understanding these concepts were the by products of the Anglo-American System of crimes when merged with the Continental-Napoleonic system that was in vogue in the Philippines shortly after the turn of the century. - I am sorry history sometimes is a big bore.
grabe na to, ha! feb 23 pa pala last post dito.anyway, kelan lalabas yung applications and kelan entrace tests to als for sy2003-2004? woul anyone know???
Fearless forecast: Ateneo Law will top the recently concluded Bar Exams. 
so much for your fearless forecast 
so much for your fearless forecast
so much for your fearless forecast
What is the estimated passing rate of students that have taken up BA courses as their pre-law course? Does the law school have a lot of peeps coming from courses like Philosophy and History?
Does the law school have a lot of peeps coming from courses like Philosophy and History?
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Originally posted by 8210:
Try mo 'to, got this from a friend:
Civil Code, Art. 1522. Where the seller delivers to the buyer a quantity of goods less than he contracted to sell, the buyer may reject them, but if the buyer accepts or retains the goods so delivered, knowing that the seller is not going to perform the contract in full, he must pay for them at contract rate. If however, the buyer has used or disposed of the goods delivered before he knows that the seller is not going to perform his contract in full, the buyer shall not be obliged for more than the fair value to him of goods so received.
Where the seller delivers to the buyer a quantity of goods larger than he contracted to sell, the buyer may accept the goods included in the contract and reject the rest. If the buyer accepts the whole of the goods so delivered he must pay for them at contract rate.
1. A purchases a set of books from B worth P500. In exchange, A executes a promissory note in favor of B worth P600. When the promissory note matures, can B demand from A the full P600?
A. Yes. Art. 1522 applies because when a quantity of goods larger than contracted is delivered, the person may accept the goods. B will just have to give an additional book.
B. Yes. Art. 1522 applies. B may just accept the payment and return the P100 excess.
C. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because the relationship between A & B is not buyer and seller.
D. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because what was delivered to B was not goods, since promissory notes are not goods.
2. X orders a set of metallic letters from Y. Y delivers them, but does not deliver the letter "Y". X accepts them and pays for all the letters except "Y". Later, Y claims that since the obligation was to deliver a set of metallic letters, the non-delivery of the letter "Y" is equivalent to non-fulfillment of the obligation, and demands that X should return all the letters, and Y will return the price paid. Can Y demand this?
A. Yes. Art. 1522 applies because X should have ascertained if Y intended to perform the contract in full before paying the contract rate.
B. Yes. Art. 1522 applies the buyer shall be obliged for the full value of the thing delivered. Not having paid the full value, X should return.
C. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because the relationship that exists between them is not buyer and seller but creditor and debtor.
D. No. Art. 1522 grants the right to the buyer to accept the goods and waive delivery of the other goods.
Revised Penal Code, Art. 3. Acts and omissions punishable by law are felonies.
Felonies are committed not only by means of deceit but also by means of fault.
There is deceit when the act is performed with deliberate intent; and there is fault when the wrongful act results from imprudence, negligence, lack of foresight, or lack of skill.
3. Mike Tan works in the factory of Manny Dy. One day, Mike Tan slips on the carpet in the factory. Can Manny Dy be held liable under Art. 3?
A. Yes. Art. 3 applies because there was negligence on the part of Manny Dy.
B. Yes. Art. 3 applies because felonies are committed not only by means of deceit but also by means of fault.
C. No. Art. 3 does not apply because there must be an act or omission punishable by law. There is no law requiring persons to keep the carpet from being slip-free.
D. No. Art. 3 does not apply because although there was imprudence, negligence, lack of foresight and lack of skill on the part of Manny Dy, there was no deliberate intent.
4. Sec. 31 of the Omnibus Election Code requires candidates for Vice President to declare their campaign expenses. X, a candidate for Vice President, spent P5,000 but did not declare this. Can X be made liable under Art. 3 of the RPC?
A. Yes. Art. 3 applies because an act was required and the act was not done by X.
B. Yes. Art. 3 applies because there was deceit on the part of X when he escaped the payment of taxes.
C. No. Art. 3 does not apply because the act of non-payment of tax is not punishable by law.
D. No. Art. 3 does not apply because X, although negligent in not filing the report, did not do so out of lack of skill or foresight.
Civil Code, Art. 1179. Every obligation whose performance does not depend upon a future or uncertain event, or upon a past event unknown to the parties, is demandable at once.
5. X sees the red car of Y and says he would like to buy it and will pay for it in cash tomorrow. Y says, "I agree." After giving X the car keys and executing the deed of sale, Y demands payment immediately. Is Y entitled to immediate payment?
A. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because when the performance is not dependent on a condition, it is demandable at once.
B. Yes. Art. 1179 applies Y having given the car, is entitled to immediate payment.
C. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because although payment is demandable at once, Y should grant X some extension out of good faith.
D. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because the performance is not dependent on a condition. Performance here is set on a definite date, which is tomorrow.
6. X sees the red car of Y and he says he would like to buy it and will pay for it in cash when his book gets published. Y says, "I agree." The next day, Y sees a yellow car and he wants to buy it and needs money. He demands immediate payment from X. X does not want to pay because he says he will pay only when his book gets published. Is X correct?
A. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because the payment is conditioned on a future or uncertain event, the publication of the book.
B. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because the performance is set to depend on a past event unknown to the parties.
C. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because the book of X may never be published, and Y would never be paid.
D. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because even when the performance is based on a future or uncertain event, it may be demandable at once in case of extreme need by the other party.
[ February 23, 2002: Message edited by: 8210 ]
Try mo 'to, got this from a friend:
Civil Code, Art. 1522. Where the seller delivers to the buyer a quantity of goods less than he contracted to sell, the buyer may reject them, but if the buyer accepts or retains the goods so delivered, knowing that the seller is not going to perform the contract in full, he must pay for them at contract rate. If however, the buyer has used or disposed of the goods delivered before he knows that the seller is not going to perform his contract in full, the buyer shall not be obliged for more than the fair value to him of goods so received.
Where the seller delivers to the buyer a quantity of goods larger than he contracted to sell, the buyer may accept the goods included in the contract and reject the rest. If the buyer accepts the whole of the goods so delivered he must pay for them at contract rate.
1. A purchases a set of books from B worth P500. In exchange, A executes a promissory note in favor of B worth P600. When the promissory note matures, can B demand from A the full P600?
A. Yes. Art. 1522 applies because when a quantity of goods larger than contracted is delivered, the person may accept the goods. B will just have to give an additional book.
B. Yes. Art. 1522 applies. B may just accept the payment and return the P100 excess.
C. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because the relationship between A & B is not buyer and seller.
D. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because what was delivered to B was not goods, since promissory notes are not goods.
2. X orders a set of metallic letters from Y. Y delivers them, but does not deliver the letter "Y". X accepts them and pays for all the letters except "Y". Later, Y claims that since the obligation was to deliver a set of metallic letters, the non-delivery of the letter "Y" is equivalent to non-fulfillment of the obligation, and demands that X should return all the letters, and Y will return the price paid. Can Y demand this?
A. Yes. Art. 1522 applies because X should have ascertained if Y intended to perform the contract in full before paying the contract rate.
B. Yes. Art. 1522 applies the buyer shall be obliged for the full value of the thing delivered. Not having paid the full value, X should return.
C. No. Art. 1522 does not apply because the relationship that exists between them is not buyer and seller but creditor and debtor.
D. No. Art. 1522 grants the right to the buyer to accept the goods and waive delivery of the other goods.
Revised Penal Code, Art. 3. Acts and omissions punishable by law are felonies.
Felonies are committed not only by means of deceit but also by means of fault.
There is deceit when the act is performed with deliberate intent; and there is fault when the wrongful act results from imprudence, negligence, lack of foresight, or lack of skill.
3. Mike Tan works in the factory of Manny Dy. One day, Mike Tan slips on the carpet in the factory. Can Manny Dy be held liable under Art. 3?
A. Yes. Art. 3 applies because there was negligence on the part of Manny Dy.
B. Yes. Art. 3 applies because felonies are committed not only by means of deceit but also by means of fault.
C. No. Art. 3 does not apply because there must be an act or omission punishable by law. There is no law requiring persons to keep the carpet from being slip-free.
D. No. Art. 3 does not apply because although there was imprudence, negligence, lack of foresight and lack of skill on the part of Manny Dy, there was no deliberate intent.
4. Sec. 31 of the Omnibus Election Code requires candidates for Vice President to declare their campaign expenses. X, a candidate for Vice President, spent P5,000 but did not declare this. Can X be made liable under Art. 3 of the RPC?
A. Yes. Art. 3 applies because an act was required and the act was not done by X.
B. Yes. Art. 3 applies because there was deceit on the part of X when he escaped the payment of taxes.
C. No. Art. 3 does not apply because the act of non-payment of tax is not punishable by law.
D. No. Art. 3 does not apply because X, although negligent in not filing the report, did not do so out of lack of skill or foresight.
Civil Code, Art. 1179. Every obligation whose performance does not depend upon a future or uncertain event, or upon a past event unknown to the parties, is demandable at once.
5. X sees the red car of Y and says he would like to buy it and will pay for it in cash tomorrow. Y says, "I agree." After giving X the car keys and executing the deed of sale, Y demands payment immediately. Is Y entitled to immediate payment?
A. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because when the performance is not dependent on a condition, it is demandable at once.
B. Yes. Art. 1179 applies Y having given the car, is entitled to immediate payment.
C. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because although payment is demandable at once, Y should grant X some extension out of good faith.
D. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because the performance is not dependent on a condition. Performance here is set on a definite date, which is tomorrow.
6. X sees the red car of Y and he says he would like to buy it and will pay for it in cash when his book gets published. Y says, "I agree." The next day, Y sees a yellow car and he wants to buy it and needs money. He demands immediate payment from X. X does not want to pay because he says he will pay only when his book gets published. Is X correct?
A. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because the payment is conditioned on a future or uncertain event, the publication of the book.
B. Yes. Art. 1179 applies because the performance is set to depend on a past event unknown to the parties.
C. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because the book of X may never be published, and Y would never be paid.
D. No. Art. 1179 does not apply because even when the performance is based on a future or uncertain event, it may be demandable at once in case of extreme need by the other party.
[ February 23, 2002: Message edited by: 8210 ]
nice one! reminds me of my OBLICON days as an LM sophomore.
actually, i'm just an incoming senior pa lang. and i really, really, REALLY hope to get into the ALS.
aquila legis the B]BEST[/B] !!!!
All I can say is, it's so much easier to pass the entrance test than to pass your subjects.
how much will your undergrad QPI weigh? how much do they matter?
It does matter if you're not in the list of those who got in based purely on your LAE ranking. It's the first thing the Admission Committee looks at if you filed an appeal on account of your not being on that first list.
for example you didn't get in ALS the first try, are you allowed to take the next exam? how many times can you apply?
As far as I know, you can try again the following year. The key is for you to immediately file an appeal if you discover that you'v been wait listed. Get your school transcripts and endorsements from reputable school officials or teachers, then wait to be called for an interview.
A lot of my batchmates who went on to become ALS honor graduates were actually waitlisted. Once they got in, hataw sa aral na lang and they were eventually vindicated. So don't hesitate to appeal.
A lot of my batchmates who went on to become ALS honor graduates were actually waitlisted. Once they got in, hataw sa aral na lang and they were eventually vindicated. So don't hesitate to appeal.
my to-be-transcript isn't that uhm...appealing. hehehe. not all are low. all my grades are ok except for the math...and probably accounting...actually, anything with numbers.
if you think your college grades aren't that hot, try to do well in the exams. good luck!
hmm...so i can apply again the following year...but how many times can i re-apply? hehehe.
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Originally posted by ranger:
As far as I know, you can try again the following year. The key is for you to immediately file an appeal if you discover that you'v been wait listed. Get your school transcripts and endorsements from reputable school officials or teachers, then wait to be called for an interview.
As far as I know, you can try again the following year. The key is for you to immediately file an appeal if you discover that you'v been wait listed. Get your school transcripts and endorsements from reputable school officials or teachers, then wait to be called for an interview.
as far as I know, you can keep applying as many times as you like. this is unlike the bar exams where after three failed attempts, you have to go through 4th year law school again before you are permitted to take it for three more times.
still, it's a good idea to apply to more than just one law school. I applied for three, UP, Ateneo, San Beda. I think that's what most applicants do.
still, it's a good idea to apply to more than just one law school. I applied for three, UP, Ateneo, San Beda. I think that's what most applicants do.
i hope this isn;t too much to ask. i'd appreciate everybody's input on their top 5 law schools, in order of your choice. i still have 2 years to go before law school by the way, but i'd REALLY like to be prepared. so, no more slacking off for me. sigh...where...have...the good days gone...
1. ateneo/UP
3. san beda
4. ust
5. feu/plm/ue
3. san beda
4. ust
5. feu/plm/ue
aQuiLa_leGIs
You appear to be a member of the Great Fraternitas Aquilae Legis.
What batch do you belong? And can I have a round? You see I am a senior.
You appear to be a member of the Great Fraternitas Aquilae Legis.
What batch do you belong? And can I have a round? You see I am a senior.
i'm going to take up ab psych and i plan to pursue law in the future... ok ba yun as a pre-law course?
amdg;)
the tuition is around P40,000 a sem. yes you can apply for scholarships. there seem to be more available this year. maybe ricey can tell you all about it when she comes back.
Ateneo Law School Admission Schedule
ATENEO LAW SCHOOL ANNOUNCES THAT
THE QUALIFYING EXAMINATION FOR
ADMISSION TO THE JURIS DOCTOR (J.D.)
COURSES FOR SCHOOL YEAR 2005-2006
SHALL BE HELD FROM 7:30 A.M. - 12:00
NOON ON THE FOLLOWING DATES:
NOVEMBER 6 & 20, 2004 JANUARY 8,
15 & 22, 2005
DECEMBER 11, 2004 FEBRUARY
26, 2005
APPLICATION FORMS SHALL BE
AVAILABLE AT THE DEAN'S OFFICE, 3RD
FLOOR, ATENEO PROFESSIONAL SCHOOLS
BUILDING, 20 ROCKWELL DRIVE, ROCKWELL
CENTER, MAKATI CITY, STARTING 04
OCTOBER 2004 AT 12:00 - 7:00 P.M.
ATENEO LAW SCHOOL ANNOUNCES THAT
THE QUALIFYING EXAMINATION FOR
ADMISSION TO THE JURIS DOCTOR (J.D.)
COURSES FOR SCHOOL YEAR 2005-2006
SHALL BE HELD FROM 7:30 A.M. - 12:00
NOON ON THE FOLLOWING DATES:
NOVEMBER 6 & 20, 2004 JANUARY 8,
15 & 22, 2005
DECEMBER 11, 2004 FEBRUARY
26, 2005
APPLICATION FORMS SHALL BE
AVAILABLE AT THE DEAN'S OFFICE, 3RD
FLOOR, ATENEO PROFESSIONAL SCHOOLS
BUILDING, 20 ROCKWELL DRIVE, ROCKWELL
CENTER, MAKATI CITY, STARTING 04
OCTOBER 2004 AT 12:00 - 7:00 P.M.
I don't know where to put this question, so dito ko lang siya itatanong sa law school thread. I wanted to ask how much is the starting salary for lawyers, in particular lawyers graduating from Ateneo Law School?
I know that most of your grads are employed by the best law firms and companies in the Philippines. Ano ba yung mga typical benefits and compensations that a lawyer gets when he is employed in a law firm or in a company?
I know that most of your grads are employed by the best law firms and companies in the Philippines. Ano ba yung mga typical benefits and compensations that a lawyer gets when he is employed in a law firm or in a company?
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Brand new:
1. The 1997 Revised Rules of Civil Procedure (codal)
2. The Law on Public Officers and Election Law by De Leon 2003 edition
3. Philippine Corporate Law by Cesar Lapuz Villanueva copyright 2001
Slightly used:
4. The Law on Obligations and Contracts by Hector de Leon, 2003 edition
5. Civil Code of the Philippines Annotated by Edgardo L. Paras, 14th ed. 2000 Volume Four Articles 1106-1457 (Oblicon)
Hmm...I'm a creative writing major. does ALS accept graduates from that course? and what are the requirements for application? do you really need to take the intro to logic class in college or can you take it in law school? i'm not sure if i still have time to take it for my elective... and can i add my creative writing classes to the 18 units english requirement? thanks!
yes, they accept graduates from all courses. i've had classmates who were graduates from english literature, math, pharmacy, biology, hrm, legal management, pol sci, economics, meco, you name it. the requirement for application is somewhere in this thread. no you don't have to take logic, and even if you've taken it in college, you have to take another version of it in law school. yes, creative writing is considered an additional english subject.
does anyone know when application forms for ateneo law school will be available? is it available by now? i've been trying to look for date infos in the websites, can't find any except for application period, though. thanks!
hello here are answers to the previous posts:
1. application forms - I would think the forms are available by January this year per past practice. call the law school at 8997691 for details.
2. pre-law courses - The rule is always " major in anything you want". This adds diversity to the legal profession. The key today is the intermingling of fields and disciplines, so the more diverse interests the better. Of course, there are required subjects, but these are covered by Admu's core curriculum, except i think for a couple English units.
3. starting salaries- the top five law firms give pay in the 30-50k range. The mid-range firms are 20-30k. Everyone else are in the 10-20k range. The funny thing about salaries in the legal profession is that you have bonuses to look forward to. (up to 20 months in some firms so thats a good deal of money) and a lot other perks.
4. scholarships - the law school gives scholarships. I know people who graduated from law school who lived on scholarship for four years. You just have to maintain the grade requirement.
hope these helps.
8210: shadowhunter = ricey =)
1. application forms - I would think the forms are available by January this year per past practice. call the law school at 8997691 for details.
2. pre-law courses - The rule is always " major in anything you want". This adds diversity to the legal profession. The key today is the intermingling of fields and disciplines, so the more diverse interests the better. Of course, there are required subjects, but these are covered by Admu's core curriculum, except i think for a couple English units.
3. starting salaries- the top five law firms give pay in the 30-50k range. The mid-range firms are 20-30k. Everyone else are in the 10-20k range. The funny thing about salaries in the legal profession is that you have bonuses to look forward to. (up to 20 months in some firms so thats a good deal of money) and a lot other perks.
4. scholarships - the law school gives scholarships. I know people who graduated from law school who lived on scholarship for four years. You just have to maintain the grade requirement.
hope these helps.
8210: shadowhunter = ricey =)
how many people do they accept?
when do they release the results? usually what month? it's just taking toooo looong already
when do they release the results? usually what month? it's just taking toooo looong already
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QUOTE(itsme @ Apr 4 2007, 05:11 PM) 
desperate Question:
I applied last year (2006) for the ateneo law school and I was not accepted. Nor was I even waitlisted or scheduled for interview. Nakapagtataka lang kasi sa Loyola schools, I never had any disciplinary violations and as far as my grades are concerned, I only got a D once tapos OAA scholar pa ko. Nasagutan ko din ng maayos yung entrance test. Bakit kaya nagkaganun? Most of My coursemates from Political Science got accepted even if they were not exactly honor students in college. Iam currently appealing To Mr. Sedfrey Candelaria so I can get in. What are my chances and what can I do to help my appeal?
I applied last year (2006) for the ateneo law school and I was not accepted. Nor was I even waitlisted or scheduled for interview. Nakapagtataka lang kasi sa Loyola schools, I never had any disciplinary violations and as far as my grades are concerned, I only got a D once tapos OAA scholar pa ko. Nasagutan ko din ng maayos yung entrance test. Bakit kaya nagkaganun? Most of My coursemates from Political Science got accepted even if they were not exactly honor students in college. Iam currently appealing To Mr. Sedfrey Candelaria so I can get in. What are my chances and what can I do to help my appeal?
I'm not very privy to how the Ateneo Law School admits students.
Here are some questions:
1. You may have gotten a D only once. But how are the rest of your grades?
2. What did you put in the essay and other written requirements? Those might have been key to the admissions process.
3. A number of people in the ALS were not honor students in college. But that doesn't mean that they had lousy grades or whatnot. Again, how are your grades?
4. I reckon there's some weight when it comes to the recommendation letters. Do you have any idea what the people who recommended you might have had to say?
5. How can you say "(n)asagutan ko din ng maayos yung entrance test?" The test might have seemed easy, but how do you think you fared vis-a-vis the other students who took it (especially those who passed)?
5. Why do you want to go to law school?
6. Why the Ateneo?
or
5. What's important to you, as a person?
6. What does attending the Ateneo Law School have to do with your answer to #5?
Answering those questions might help in some self-assessment that might help in preparing your appeal, if ever you decide to push through with it.
In writing Atty. Candelaria (friendly advice: note that he's a lawyer. hehe), I suggest you use the results of the self-assessment questions outlined above. Keep your arguments simple, concise, and just add enough drama. I suggest NOT saying stuff like "(m)ost of (m)y coursemates from Political Science got accepted even if they were not exactly honor students in college." There's also little argument that can be made regarding your lack of any disciplinary violations. Discipline, after all, is expected.
I have no idea if the Ateneo entertains appeals for law school admissions. I guess there's no harm in writing.
QUOTE(atenean_blooded @ Apr 6 2007, 01:24 AM)
QUOTE(itsme @ Apr 4 2007, 05:11 PM)
desperate Question:
I applied last year (2006) for the ateneo law school and I was not accepted. Nor was I even waitlisted or scheduled for interview. Nakapagtataka lang kasi sa Loyola schools, I never had any disciplinary violations and as far as my grades are concerned, I only got a D once tapos OAA scholar pa ko. Nasagutan ko din ng maayos yung entrance test. Bakit kaya nagkaganun? Most of My coursemates from Political Science got accepted even if they were not exactly honor students in college. Iam currently appealing To Mr. Sedfrey Candelaria so I can get in. What are my chances and what can I do to help my appeal?
I applied last year (2006) for the ateneo law school and I was not accepted. Nor was I even waitlisted or scheduled for interview. Nakapagtataka lang kasi sa Loyola schools, I never had any disciplinary violations and as far as my grades are concerned, I only got a D once tapos OAA scholar pa ko. Nasagutan ko din ng maayos yung entrance test. Bakit kaya nagkaganun? Most of My coursemates from Political Science got accepted even if they were not exactly honor students in college. Iam currently appealing To Mr. Sedfrey Candelaria so I can get in. What are my chances and what can I do to help my appeal?
I'm not very privy to how the Ateneo Law School admits students.
Here are some questions:
1. You may have gotten a D only once. But how are the rest of your grades?
2. What did you put in the essay and other written requirements? Those might have been key to the admissions process.
3. A number of people in the ALS were not honor students in college. But that doesn't mean that they had lousy grades or whatnot. Again, how are your grades?
4. I reckon there's some weight when it comes to the recommendation letters. Do you have any idea what the people who recommended you might have had to say?
5. How can you say "(n)asagutan ko din ng maayos yung entrance test?" The test might have seemed easy, but how do you think you fared vis-a-vis the other students who took it (especially those who passed)?
5. Why do you want to go to law school?
6. Why the Ateneo?
or
5. What's important to you, as a person?
6. What does attending the Ateneo Law School have to do with your answer to #5?
Answering those questions might help in some self-assessment that might help in preparing your appeal, if ever you decide to push through with it.
In writing Atty. Candelaria (friendly advice: note that he's a lawyer. hehe), I suggest you use the results of the self-assessment questions outlined above. Keep your arguments simple, concise, and just add enough drama. I suggest NOT saying stuff like "(m)ost of (m)y coursemates from Political Science got accepted even if they were not exactly honor students in college." There's also little argument that can be made regarding your lack of any disciplinary violations. Discipline, after all, is expected.
I have no idea if the Ateneo entertains appeals for law school admissions. I guess there's no harm in writing.
atenean blooded:
I decided to push through with the appeal. Thank you for your comments. They were very helpful in writing the letter of appeal. To answer question number 6, i just have to say that it is because being an atenean lawyer is one of my biggest dreams (very cheesy,but true). My heart is really in ateneo and i really don't want to go to law school anywhere else. i am sure this would not count as a sound argument to mr. candelaria, but that really is the reason. With regards to the grades, i just attached a copy of my transcript to the appeal letter. i was told that it wwould help if i also attached endorsements/recommendations, so that's what i'm working on now. Again, thanks for your advice
QUOTE(itsme @ Apr 4 2007, 05:11 PM)
desperate Question:
I applied last year (2006) for the ateneo law school and I was not accepted. Nor was I even waitlisted or scheduled for interview. Nakapagtataka lang kasi sa Loyola schools, I never had any disciplinary violations and as far as my grades are concerned, I only got a D once tapos OAA scholar pa ko. Nasagutan ko din ng maayos yung entrance test. Bakit kaya nagkaganun? Most of My coursemates from Political Science got accepted even if they were not exactly honor students in college. Iam currently appealing To Mr. Sedfrey Candelaria so I can get in. What are my chances and what can I do to help my appeal?
I applied last year (2006) for the ateneo law school and I was not accepted. Nor was I even waitlisted or scheduled for interview. Nakapagtataka lang kasi sa Loyola schools, I never had any disciplinary violations and as far as my grades are concerned, I only got a D once tapos OAA scholar pa ko. Nasagutan ko din ng maayos yung entrance test. Bakit kaya nagkaganun? Most of My coursemates from Political Science got accepted even if they were not exactly honor students in college. Iam currently appealing To Mr. Sedfrey Candelaria so I can get in. What are my chances and what can I do to help my appeal?
Admission into the law school is purely based on the exam. College grades and recommendations do not have any bearing unless you are on the WL list/scheduled for an interview (not too sure about this though), which means that you still did partly well on the exam.
Good luck to your appeal though!
QUOTE(itsme @ Apr 10 2007, 10:03 AM)
atenean blooded:
I decided to push through with the appeal. Thank you for your comments. They were very helpful in writing the letter of appeal. To answer question number 6, i just have to say that it is because being an atenean lawyer is one of my biggest dreams (very cheesy,but true). My heart is really in ateneo and i really don't want to go to law school anywhere else. i am sure this would not count as a sound argument to mr. candelaria, but that really is the reason. With regards to the grades, i just attached a copy of my transcript to the appeal letter. i was told that it wwould help if i also attached endorsements/recommendations, so that's what i'm working on now. Again, thanks for your advice
I decided to push through with the appeal. Thank you for your comments. They were very helpful in writing the letter of appeal. To answer question number 6, i just have to say that it is because being an atenean lawyer is one of my biggest dreams (very cheesy,but true). My heart is really in ateneo and i really don't want to go to law school anywhere else. i am sure this would not count as a sound argument to mr. candelaria, but that really is the reason. With regards to the grades, i just attached a copy of my transcript to the appeal letter. i was told that it wwould help if i also attached endorsements/recommendations, so that's what i'm working on now. Again, thanks for your advice
Good luck!
dude, just my 2 cents here.
exams for law school is a skills test or reasoning skills that you must possess. grades in college is not really determined by reasoning but by diligence and the ability to understand and memorize facts that will be asked for the exams. this is very different from the reasoning skills required by law school.
there are students in lawschool who were so-so back in college but really excelled in lawschool. there are those who were latin honors in college but never passed law school.
it may be too late, but i wish you luck in your appeal. but unless you have some padrino who will help you, your appeal is a long shot.
exams for law school is a skills test or reasoning skills that you must possess. grades in college is not really determined by reasoning but by diligence and the ability to understand and memorize facts that will be asked for the exams. this is very different from the reasoning skills required by law school.
there are students in lawschool who were so-so back in college but really excelled in lawschool. there are those who were latin honors in college but never passed law school.
it may be too late, but i wish you luck in your appeal. but unless you have some padrino who will help you, your appeal is a long shot.
QUOTE(babaycakes @ Apr 12 2007, 04:17 PM)
Admission into the law school is purely based on the exam. College grades and recommendations do not have any bearing unless you are on the WL list/scheduled for an interview (not too sure about this though), which means that you still did partly well on the exam.
so true. i was surprised to find out that i got in without having to go through the interview. although my college grades are quite decent, i didn't submit an important requirement, the recommendation forms (haha, nasa computer desk ko pa rin). di ko kasi alam kung kanino ko ipapagawa. its kinda hard to trust your profs, you know? aminin.
as it turns out, it's not that important anyway. im sure there are some people who made it to the passers list but chose to enrol in other law schools. i know quite a handful, at least 3 (myself included). may mga iba pa naman dyan. there are also those simply decided that they're not yet ready for the study of law. so maybe, just maybe, you can take one of the slots of those who forfeited theirs. good luck sa appeal! tsaka remember, sorry kung medyo cliche na ah, hindi lang ateneo at up ang law schools sa pilipinas. wala lang. hehe. good luck ulet.
QUOTE
Admission into the law school is purely based on the exam.
Not all the time, may nakakapasok dyan thru the backdoor..Tanungin mo na lang ung ibang Aquilan dyan hehe
hi guys, i'm a second year student at ADMU but my cousin is graduating this year and want's to try for Ateneo or UP law. (Ateneo being her preferred choice daw). Do you know the details of the admission process for this year? If not is there a place i can inquire or does anyone here know contact details?
QUOTE(frosthounder @ Jul 1 2008, 12:48 AM)
hi guys, i'm a second year student at ADMU but my cousin is graduating this year and want's to try for Ateneo or UP law. (Ateneo being her preferred choice daw). Do you know the details of the admission process for this year? If not is there a place i can inquire or does anyone here know contact details?
Get an application form in the 3rd level of Ateneo Rockwell. The staff will be more than happy to answer any of your questions. Good luck!
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