How do you rank Ateneo-MBA amongst the best MBA Part-time Programs in the Philippines?

AIM is not included in this ranking because it only offers a FULL-TIME MBA program.

siempre Ateneo is No. 1!

[ July 19, 2002: Message edited by: VPA ]

According to Philippine Industry surveys its:

1. DLSU-Manila MBA
2. UP-Diliman MBA
3. Ateneo de Manila MBA
4. UST MBA
5. UE MBA

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/...rt.overall.html

You can refer to this:

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/...rt.overall.html

Ateneo intentionally did not join the AsiaWeek ranking.

In my opinion,

#1 Ateneo MBA
#2 UP MBA
#3 DLSU MBA

I concur with BE's ranking -

1 ateneo
2 up
3 dlsu

I'm not sure what the purpose of this thread is. But if someone is trying to compare the programs to decide which to choose, then it would be important to note that all 3 are different in their own approach.

I agree with the fact that Ateneo did not join the rankings. But the programs are very different from one another. La Salle's MBA program has a more theoretical orientation. They have a greater number of full-time faculty. Ateneo's program, on the other hand, is purely application-oriented. All AGSB faculty are practicing managers.

So it depends on what program suits your preference. Check out their websites and get to know the programs better.

Frankly

1. DLSU-Manila
2. UP-Diliman
3. Ateneo-Rockwell

Honestly,

1. Ateneo
2. UP
3. Others

according to the asiaweek survey, UP was the top full-time/part-time MBA school, followed by DLSU. discount AIM which is a full-time program.

i'm glad everyone here disagrees!

Ateneo chickened out?

Frankly in the MBA Evening Part-Time category both DLSU-Manila and UP-Diliman's MBA programs are BETTER than Ateneo's.

1. Ateneo MBA
2. UP MBA
3. Others - San Beda, DLSU, etc.

For me ...

1. UP MBA
2. DLSU/ATENEO MBA
3. Others

1. UP MBA

Nothing follows....sorry

1 UP MBA
2 DLSU MBA
3 ADMU MBA

1. UP (by far better than the 2nd)
2. DLSU
- - - sorry po! wala na.

1. Ateneo
2. UP
3. Others

1. Ateneo
2. Others

i wonder how the people here (are they all graduate students?) are able to come up with their rankings. cross-enrollees, maybe?

stupidity doesn't wear a unifortm.

[ November 29, 2002: Message edited by: mac_bolan00 ]

Can the people here be more specific as to why they think their choices should be ranked higher than the others? What are your criteria/s that you considered in coming up with your rankings? Thank you.

frankly and honestly:

1. up
2. i forgot, there's no number 2!!!

1. UP MBA
2.
3.
4.
5. AIM MBA
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. DLSU MBA
12. ADMU MBA
nothing follows...

Majority of the responses here did not have any basis.
( I hope that there are more forum participants like ReyesAA. - haven't read a baseless/stupid comment from this person)

Are Ateneo and La Salle still affiliated with AIM?

(We know that AIM was somewhat a merger of the 2 schools in the 60s).

[ September 05, 2003: Message edited by: G35 ]

[ September 05, 2003: Message edited by: G35 ]

1. ATENEO GSB
2. UP CBA
3. ----
4. ----
5. ----
6. DLSU - for entry-level employees.
7. UST
8. San Beda

i've asked the opinion of our hr manager and she told me that most hr professionals for the top 500 corporations prefer applicants with MBA degress (for managerial and executive positions ) from :

1. UP DILIMAN
2. DLSU
3. AGSB

any hr professionals can validate this statement?

alpha q,

i have sat before and behind the recruiter's desk and i will tell you, corporate preferences have very little to do with the quality of both the school and the graduate. universities should look for other measures of performance beside hiring preferences.

[ September 30, 2003: Message edited by: mac_bolan00 ]

At the top!

[ February 11, 2004: Message edited by: kainizares ]

Ateneo's MBA Program, when compared to other schools' programs, has essentially a similar framework. You get to cover the same:
1. Foundational subjects (Statistics, Accounting, Economics, among others);
2. Functional courses (Marketing, Finance, Production, and Human Resources); &
3. Integrating courses (Business Policy, Strategic Management, among others).
As to the electives, the choices are as varied as with other schools'.

When it comes to the professors, they are supposedly capable of guiding the students through the basics. In fact that's their only work in graduate school. It's really up to the students to carry on from those "basics".

Case in point: a Business Policy professor suggests reading Michael Porter's Competitive Strategy, saying it's the "basic" in competitive scenarios. What now?
1. A-School student reads a part of the book, and applies it to a case study;
2. B-School student reads the whole book, and applies the concepts; and,
3. C-School student reads the whole book, researches other books on strategic management as well, and applies the concepts to the case study.

So who gets the better deal in the similarly made frameworks in the country's MBA Programs? The C-School student.

To state the obvious: the character and attitude of the student make the programs best or just second best.

Now does the Ateneo MBA still bring out the best in its students where character and attitude is concerned as it did to us in the late eighties? If so, then you may consider it as first among equals.

Keith
MBA Class of 1990

last...

Ateneo's MBA is no. 1 among the part-time MBA programs (with leftist UP as no. 2, surprisingly), just like Ateneo's Law program is no. 1 (however, San Beda is no. 2 and UP is only no. 3 when it comes to Law).

School is what you make it.... but in graduate school especially in MBA, its what you make out of your classmates.

MBA depends on the level of sharing and discourse in class. The professor acts as a facilitator of your learning.

I have attended a debate pitting DLSU GSBE, AIM, and AGSB students and honestly, there wasn't much difference in what they know and what was taught in AGSB. In fact, Ateneo was even better than La Salle and AIM because they specifically won that tournament.

I thought AGSB did not prepare me sufficiently for top management work, I was wrong. Most of the concepts I applied today were concepts that I learned when I was in AGSB and most interviews where I was pitted against AIM graduates, UP professors and PHD graduates, I prevailed.

So.... if you are in AGSB, make the most out of your profs and classmates. Get involved in groups with extensive multidisciplanary professional experience and you will learn a lot.

kakaiba yung experience mo sa karamihan nangaling na sa agsb.

Some news about the AGSB.

BusinessWorld
p.11, October 29-30, 2004

RP graduate studies

Only 1% of the country's 195 graduate schools offering programs in education, public administration and business education scored outstanding marks in a recent evaluative survey commissioned by the Commission on Higher Education. The study categorized schools into seven clusters, where the majority (58%) fell into middle ground. Conducted by the Fund for Assistance to Private Education or FAPE, the study found only two graduate schools of business, both in the National Capital Region (NCR), who fell into Cluster I-Outstanding category. The Ateneo Graduate School of Business topped the evaluation with a score of 4.6 out of a possible 5.0. Seven schools from NCR, Southern Tagalog, Western Visayas and Southern Mindanao were classified under Cluster II-Superior. Around 7% scored poorly. These are found in Ilocos, Cagayan Valley, Central Luzon, Southern Tagalog, Bicol, Central Visayas, Central Mindanao, ARMM and Caraga.

wow... this is quite a surprising news

Comparing MBA schools in the Philippines is not worth it. AIM is the only MBA school worth mentioning in that country.

So boys and girls, wake up. End the false pride and inflated ego. It won't do you any good.

Honestly, how is your school compared to North American and European MBA programs? In Asia? Oh... Philippine MBA schools lag behind, except for AIM.

It is a sad fact that Ateneo MBA is only comparable to UP , La Salle and stinking UST.

funny naman ang thread na 'to. although i'm blue-blooded and an atenean at heart, i'd prefer La Salle's MBA and UP's MBA than Ateneo's.

mostly naman, ang mga replies dito are solely based on personal biases eh. i don't think yung mga replies ng iba ay credible. ayaw ko lang talaga sa mga ateneans na sinisiraan ang ibang school para sabihin na sila ang the best. you cannot measure the performance of an institution on a particular program if you only rely on personal comments and opinions of others.

Opinions and personal biases aside, the CHED in its own study found the MBA program of the Ateneo as the best in the Philippines.

I hope this link helps.

Here's the complete article.

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New study reveals state of Philippine graduate studies


Only one percent of the country’s 195 graduate schools offering programs in education, public administration and business education scored outstanding marks in a recent evaluative survey commissioned by the Commission on Higher Education (CHED).

The study categorized schools into seven clusters, where the majority (58 percent) fell into middle ground but very few could compare favorably with international standards of quality graduate programs.

Conducted by the Fund for Assistance to Private Education (FAPE), the study found only two graduate schools of business, both in the National Capital Region (NCR), who fell into Cluster I-Outstanding category. The Ateneo Graduate School of Business, with campuses in Salcedo Village, Rockwell Center and off-site campuses in Cebu, Subic and Sta. Rosa, Laguna; topped the evaluation and earned the highest score of 4.6 out of a possible perfect score of 5.0.

Seven schools from NCR, Region IV-Southern Tagalog, Region VI-Western Visayas and Region XI Southern Mindanao were classified under Cluster II-Superior.

Schools that fell under Clusters I and II were found to have well qualified faculty members who held key managerial positions in top companies. Graduate students themselves held managerial positions in their place of work. Study programs maintained active linkages with business and industry. School administrations provided adequate state-of-the-art resources including up-to-date electronic references that were accessible to students. Faculty members were well compensated.

On the other end of the spectrum, 7 percent of the schools evaluated scored poorly. Business graduate programs that fell under the Cluster VII-Poor category were found in Region I-Ilocos, Region II-Cagayan Valley, Region III-Central Luzon, Region IV-Southern Tagalog, Region V-Bicol, Region VII-Central Visayas, Region XII-Central Mindanao, ARMM and CARAGA.

These graduate schools were mostly just one-room affairs where all transactions ranging from enrolment, library work and research, faculty study and even classes were conducted. In most of the schools, the graduate programs were run by retired personnel who were not updated on current business developments. Usually only two or three faculty members taught all the course offerings of a program. Most of these institutions were also family-owned and run, and most responsibilities were overseen by close family members. Even faculty and staff obtained their degrees in-house.

CHED is set to evaluate the results further and will consider gradually phasing out programs from low performing schools. A total of 199 graduate schools were listed offering graduate business programs in the Philippines but four were not operating their programs at the time of the study. A team of academic experts and graduate school professors conducted the study over a ninemonth period.

O, tumahimik ka bigla a. 'Kala ko puro biases lang yung lumalabas sa mga bibig namin? Eeyore's just mentioned a CHED study in which Ateneo's MBA program came out as the best in the Philippines. O, ano, biased din ba yung CHED?

Be proud na lang, pare. Atenista ka naman talaga, 'di ba...? Man, you must think we're ridiculously stupid if you think your act is fooling us.

Anyway, returning to the discussion, how do you react to the recent CHED-conducted study which ranks your alma mater's (tsh...) MBA program as the best in the country?

I am taking MBA at Ateneo ... the teaching style matters.

In Lasalle, they have the lecture-style of teaching, id est, the professors lecture while the students act like ""sponges. Then quizzes follow.

In Ateneo, we have facilitative-style of teaching, id est, the professors act as faciliators extracting "juice" from the students. Ateneans tend to be better speakers, in this manner.

Daming lang snob sa school namin, mostly Filipinos. Kaya I end up having foreign students as friends. Last term, I made friends with 2 Chinese, 1 Indonesian, and 1 Turk.

I learned that these "now" schoolmates came from either Lasalle, UP, Ateneo, San Beda, Assumption, UST, St Scho, Miriam, St Paul's, or some foreign schools.

Pero di naman lahat snob. Most are workacholic and geeky, so to speak.

Then again, baka ako din snob kaya wala akong friends?


Cheers!!!

FOLLOW THAT RECRUITER!

One good way of choosing an MBA school is to find out which companies recruit from it. "It's expensive and time-consuming to interview potential employees, so companies go to only those schools they judge to be very selective in admitting students and have rigorous programs," says David Wilson, president of the Graduate Management Admission Council in Washington. The council recently asked 692 multinationals and US companies which MBA schools they recruited from. CFO Asia went through the 111 names and compiled a sampling of institutions that are strong in finance:

China Europe International Business School (China)
Columbia Business School (US)
Cornell University - Johnson School (US)
Duke University - Fuqua School of Business (US)
HEC School of Management (France)
INSEAD (France and Singapore)
IMD (Switzerland)
London Business School (UK)
Manchester Business School (UK)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology - Sloan School of Management (US)
McGill University - Faculty of Management (Canada)
National University of Singapore - NUS Business School
New York University - Leonard N. Stern School of Business (US)
Northwestern University - Kellogg Graduate School of Business (US)
Stanford University - Graduate School of Business (US)
University of California at Los Angeles - Anderson School of Management (US)
University of Chicago - Graduate School of Business (US)
University of Pennsylvania - Wharton School (US)
Yale School of Management (US)
York University - Schulich School of Business (Canada)

http://www.cfoasia.com/archives/200402-06.htm

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Ateneo or La Salle? hehehehe....Wake up! Ateneo undergrads with money and brains go to these schools..not AGSB.

Worldwide recognition

* Two Asian business schools are listed in The Financial Times’ top 100 global MBA rankings 2004: the China Europe International Business School (CEIBS) (53rd), and the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology (HKUST) (69th).
* Six are listed in The Economist’s 2003 rankings: the Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad (45th), the CEIBS (65th), the HKUST (73rd), the University of Hong Kong (79th), the International University of Japan (82nd) and the National University of Singapore (NUS) (99th).
* The largest worldwide accreditation organisation, the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB), has bestowed its international accreditation on seven Asian institutions – the HKUST, the Chinese University of Hong Kong (CUHK), Keio University in Japan, Seoul National University, the Korean Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST) in South Korea, the Asian Institute of Management in the Philippines (AIM), and NUS.
* Five Asian universities have now achieved the European Foundation for Management Development’s EQUIS accreditation: AIM, CEIBS, HKUST, The University of Hong Kong and Nanyang Technological University.

Top Asian schools

The three top Asian business schools by region are the National University of Singapore (for ASEAN), the Chinese University of Hong Kong (for east Asia), and the Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad in India (for south Asia).

Also joining the League of Best MBA Schools in Asia for 2003 were (in alphabetical order):

* The AIM, Philippines
* The Faculty of Business and Economics, The University of Hong Kong, China
* The Graduate School of International Management, International University of Japan
* The Indian Institute of Management, Bangalore, India
* INSEAD Singapore
* Nanyang Business School, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore
* The School of Business and Management, HKUST, China.

http://www.mba.hobsons.com/prospectsConten...GIONAL_EASTASIA

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Ateneo, La Salle or UP. duh?

Ateneo MBA is still the best. Read the CHED's rating of all graduate schools.

Correct me if I'm wrong but UP-MBA was not included in that rating. It applied only to p-r-i-v-a-t-e MBA schools.

guys, can you help me decide which program to choose? the standard program or yung middle managers? i'm already 29 years old and i'm working for a multinational company in a supervisory role. will i be wasting my time and effort if i apply for the standard program instead of applying in the program for middle managers?

If you are in a supervisory position, it is strongly suggested that you cluster with students with similar position.

MBA classroom discussion format in the Ateneo is usually sharing and discussion. I am very certain that discussion with bank tellers and account officers or sales people would not make your current practical and theoretical knowledge deeper and wider.

Ateneo is the number Graduate School for Business. Not to forget the MBHA that is really very competitive...

Ateneo is the number ONE (1) Graduate School for Business. Not to forget the MBHA that is really very competitive...

I don't think they have bank tellers as students

So true, you learn a lot too with classmates. Damn im sure i wont be able to understand some procedures and concepts in class wihout the help of more brainy groupmates haha.