Most peeps say La Salle is better than Ateneo in the MBA-PartTime Program.

What do you think?

[ March 18, 2002: Message edited by: rico ]

i really don't know the basis of saying that one MBA program is better than the other. from what i know, most of the subjects are the same, the textbooks are the same, heck! even some of the professors are the same. i have friends who went to la salle for their mba and whenever we talk about the stuff we do in graduate school pareho naman natututunan namin. but i can tell you that the ateneo mba program has more subjects atsaka mas maraming units compared to the la salle program.

Frankly La Salle is better than Ateneo in MBA-PartTime Program.

They started the Harvard MBA Case Study method in the Philippines. Check out their 3rd MBA campus in the plush RCBC Plaza in Ayala Avenue, Makati.

i agree, La Salle has better MBA program than Ateneo, although i'm an Atenean. mas gusto ko yung training nila. according to my friends who are taking MBA in La Salle puro case study ang ginagawa nila. maganda daw yung training, balance ang practical sa theoretical. kung sa Ateneo naman daw (according to my friends who are taking their MBA in Ateneo) medyo basic yung tinuturo sa kanila na dapat ituro sa undergraduate students or dapat gawing refresher subjects lang, which explains na mas marami ang units na dapat nilang tapusin to get a degree. sabi nila, mas theoretical daw yung training nila dun.

be the way, mas mura ang tuition ng MBA program ng La Salle compared to the Ateneo. kaya easy sya sa pocket, at the same time, excellent pa ang quality of education na makukuha mo; kaya mas practical siya.

Opinions and personal biases aside, the CHED in its own study found the MBA program of the Ateneo as the best in the Philippines.

I hope this link helps.

Here's the complete article.

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New study reveals state of Philippine graduate studies


Only one percent of the country’s 195 graduate schools offering programs in education, public administration and business education scored outstanding marks in a recent evaluative survey commissioned by the Commission on Higher Education (CHED).

The study categorized schools into seven clusters, where the majority (58 percent) fell into middle ground but very few could compare favorably with international standards of quality graduate programs.

Conducted by the Fund for Assistance to Private Education (FAPE), the study found only two graduate schools of business, both in the National Capital Region (NCR), who fell into Cluster I-Outstanding category. The Ateneo Graduate School of Business, with campuses in Salcedo Village, Rockwell Center and off-site campuses in Cebu, Subic and Sta. Rosa, Laguna; topped the evaluation and earned the highest score of 4.6 out of a possible perfect score of 5.0.

Seven schools from NCR, Region IV-Southern Tagalog, Region VI-Western Visayas and Region XI Southern Mindanao were classified under Cluster II-Superior.

Schools that fell under Clusters I and II were found to have well qualified faculty members who held key managerial positions in top companies. Graduate students themselves held managerial positions in their place of work. Study programs maintained active linkages with business and industry. School administrations provided adequate state-of-the-art resources including up-to-date electronic references that were accessible to students. Faculty members were well compensated.

On the other end of the spectrum, 7 percent of the schools evaluated scored poorly. Business graduate programs that fell under the Cluster VII-Poor category were found in Region I-Ilocos, Region II-Cagayan Valley, Region III-Central Luzon, Region IV-Southern Tagalog, Region V-Bicol, Region VII-Central Visayas, Region XII-Central Mindanao, ARMM and CARAGA.

These graduate schools were mostly just one-room affairs where all transactions ranging from enrolment, library work and research, faculty study and even classes were conducted. In most of the schools, the graduate programs were run by retired personnel who were not updated on current business developments. Usually only two or three faculty members taught all the course offerings of a program. Most of these institutions were also family-owned and run, and most responsibilities were overseen by close family members. Even faculty and staff obtained their degrees in-house.

CHED is set to evaluate the results further and will consider gradually phasing out programs from low performing schools. A total of 199 graduate schools were listed offering graduate business programs in the Philippines but four were not operating their programs at the time of the study. A team of academic experts and graduate school professors conducted the study over a ninemonth period.

Harvard case study started by DLRT?

hahahahahahahha... FUNNY boy. AIM alumni would die laughing at your post. Checkout the history of AIM. You'd see all blue tarnished by green.

I am taking MBA at Ateneo ... the teaching style matters.

In Lasalle, they have the lecture-style of teaching, id est, the professors lecture while the students act like ""sponges. Then quizzes follow.

In Ateneo, we have facilitative-style of teaching, id est, the professors act as faciliators extracting "juice" from the students. Ateneans tend to be better speakers, in this manner.

Daming lang snob sa school namin, mostly Filipinos. Kaya I end up having foreign students as friends. Last term, I made friends with 2 Chinese, 1 Indonesian, and 1 Turk.

I learned that these "now schoolmates came from either Lasalle, UP, Ateneo, San Beda, Assumption, UST, St Scho, Miriam, St Paul's, or some foreign schools.

Pero di naman lahat snob. Most are workacholic and geeky, so to speak.

Then again, baka ako din snob kaya wala akong friends?


Cheers!!!

A big joke...did your Ateneo professor told you this...why not ask Dr. Katigbak why he sent her daughter to Columbia Univeristy rather than study in Ateneo GSB? Or why not ask your professors why they did not choose Ateneo for their MBAs but preferred to study abroad?

You'll be surprised.

Form muna:

1. "A big joke...(.)" Full stop, and an exclamation point would be even better.
2. "(D)id your Ateneo professor told (tell) you this...(?)" Questions, rhetorical or not, end with question marks.
3. Yada yada "why he (she?) sent her (his? Ano ba talaga?)..." yada yada yada.
4. "Or why not ask...yada yada yada". You can drop the "Or" for an efficient sentence and a more effective paragraph.

Content naman: It's called "living within your means". Nothing surprising there.

Short and sweet, eh?

hahahahaha ano yan? april fool joke?

onecarlos...

are you taking the MBA standard in AGSB or MBA Regis?

MBA - Standard -- electives: Law in Business, Entrep, and Negotiation Skils


U?

= ) Thank you for being perceptive...

Form muna:

1. "A big joke...(.)" Full stop, and an exclamation point would be even better.
2. "(D)id your Ateneo professor told (tell) you this...(?)" Questions, rhetorical or not, end with question marks.
3. Yada yada "why he (she?) sent her (his? Ano ba talaga?)..." yada yada yada.
4. "Or why not ask...yada yada yada". You can drop the "Or" for an efficient sentence and a more effective paragraph.

Content naman: It's called "living within your means". Nothing surprising there.

Short and sweet, eh?

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Thank you very much for the corrections.

Dr. Ramon Katigbak of the Ateneo GSB sent his daughter to Columbia and not Ateneo because its a much better school. Don't you think so?

If that were the case, the streets would be filled with Benzes, Ferraris and the best of every internal-combustion niche there is. However, personal transport vehicles range from Lambos to Ladas, Maseratis to Minicas, Porsches to pedicabs, and people buy (or bought, in the case of Minicas and Ladas) these things.

It’s called living within your means.

If that were the case, Mang Pandoy would be living a life of luxury: eating caviar instead of galunggong (pati ito, mahal na!), working on his golf swing instead of looking for work, and worrying about his well-diversified retirement portfolio instead of worrying about his children’s future.

It’s called living within your means.

We want what is best for our loved ones given the cards that we have. In management science parlance that means optimizing your objective given the constraints, and solutions beyond these constraints are irrelevant solutions. The so called “Best” are such in the context of these constraints.

Again, it’s called living within your means.

I was under the impression that the MBA programs of LA SALLE and ATENEO were the ones being compared here. Or has that dispute already been settled?

No need to compare Ateneo and La Salle MBA. There's no real difference in what you will learn and experience. The same value added. No bid deal.

MBA Education is expensive. There are brilliant Ateneans who chose foreign MBA schools rather than AGSB despite their meager means via scholarships and grants. That's a way out of the financial constraint yada yada.

There are Ateneans who can afford to go to foreign MBA school because they are rich. They are rich and brilliant.

If an Atenean have the brains or money-and-brains, it is highly probable that he/she wll choose Columbia over AGSB. Don't you think so?

Should I assume that you consider AGSB as comparable to Columbia?

Why not simply accept the fact that Columbia is a better school than AGSB? Of course you won't. Many Ateneans are so arrogant to the point of being ridiculous.

Living within your means. In street parlance you call this "palusot".

The best may defined within the contraints that bound your probable decision.

In the Philippines, your choice is limited among the mediore bunch of MBA schools from an international perspective. However, if your are unlucky enough to be bounded by that financial constraint that limits your choice among these schools, you will create myths and legends that are designed to make the ego-bloat.

Live within your means then, Jaco. Here's "The Chicken" for you.

^ this a bit simplistic, don't you think?

there are lots of other reasons (aside from "financial constraints" which you don't seem to subscribe to) for a person to decide to forego studying in a business school abroad and instead, study in agsb or in some other local school. agsb, as i understand it, is designed for folks who do not want to leave work in order to pursue their mba -- either because they have families to take care of or maybe because they are already in leadership positions in their firms that they can't leave for two whole years.

in other words, comparing columbia to agsb may be like comparing apples to oranges, IMHO.

on the other hand, insinuating that students of agsb are intellectually challenged when compared to columbia business school students may be unfair to all the hard-working businessmen-students of agsb. i don't think anyone should make such a sweeping generalization.

i think what's important is that you yourself decide which gsb would best fit what you need or what you want to do in life. in the end, whether you choose agsb or columbia or harvard or up or la salle, it should be the best for your purposes, not for anyone else's.

Will definitely live within my means, just like countless Filipinos who aren’t chocolate marshmallows – white on the inside, brown on the outside. Nice to know you appreciate the works of the late great electric bassmeister, or at least know how to Google™ them from the web.

Enjoy your stay at our home. You can observe a lot by watching (Thanks, Manong Yogi). As for the prose, still no cigar for you.

ill keep my answer short and simple ---> LA SALLE <---

^ well, that's your opinion. as for me, i'd take agsb over la salle any day.

In LaSalle, students pass the subjects even without reviewing their lessons or exerting reasonale effort.

In Ateneo, diligence is really a must.

A third party survey had already been conducted, and Ateneo was declared the best school in the Philippines. Columbia University is in the US.

Anyways, we should not react based on opinions and biases but on facts. Public information is available, we must utilize these resources.

It is funny to say that a certain school is better if acording to a public information, another school is the best. We need to be careful in giving our reactions and/or statements.

In LaSalle, students pass the subjects even without reviewing their lessons or exerting reasonale effort.

In Ateneo, diligence is really a must.

A third party survey had already been conducted, and Ateneo was declared the best school in the Philippines. Columbia University is in the US.

Anyways, we should not react based on opinions and biases but on facts. Public information is available, we must utilize these resources.

It is funny to say that a certain school is better if acording to a public information, another school is the best. We need to be careful in giving our reactions and/or statements.

In LaSalle, students pass the subjects even without reviewing their lessons or exerting reasonale effort.

In Ateneo, diligence is really a must.

A third party survey had already been conducted, and Ateneo was declared the best school in the Philippines. Columbia University is in the US.

Anyways, we should not react based on opinions and biases but on facts. Public information is available, we must utilize these resources.

It is funny to say that a certain school is better if acording to a public information, another school is the best. We need to be careful in giving our reactions and/or statements.

In LaSalle, students pass the subjects even without reviewing their lessons or exerting reasonale effort.

In Ateneo, diligence is really a must.

A third party survey had already been conducted, and Ateneo was declared the best school in the Philippines. Columbia University is in the US.

Anyways, we should not react based on opinions and biases but on facts. Public information is available, we must utilize these resources.

It is funny to say that a certain school is better if acording to a public information, another school is the best. We need to be careful in giving our reactions and/or statements.

In LaSalle, students pass the subjects even without reviewing their lessons or exerting reasonale effort.

In Ateneo, diligence is really a must.

A third party survey had already been conducted, and Ateneo was declared the best school in the Philippines. Columbia University is in the US.

Anyways, we should not react based on opinions and biases but on facts. Public information is available, we must utilize these resources.

It is funny to say that a certain school is better if acording to a public information, another school is the best. We need to be careful in giving our reactions and/or statements.

In LaSalle, students pass the subjects even without reviewing their lessons or exerting reasonale effort.

In Ateneo, diligence is really a must.

A third party survey had already been conducted, and Ateneo was declared the best school in the Philippines. Columbia University is in the US.

Anyways, we should not react based on opinions and biases but on facts. Public information is available, we must utilize these resources.

It is funny to say that a certain school is better if acording to a public information, another school is the best. We need to be careful in giving our reactions and/or statements.