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QUOTE(Maverick @ Aug 17 2004, 09:10 PM)
I've always had a soft spot for San Beda and would love to see them in the UAAP. Heck, I'd trade away NU and Adamson just to have SBC in the UAAP! They've been wanting to get into the UAAP ever since Ateneo and La Salle left the NCAA. In the present NCAA, they're really just wasting away. The last championship they had was when they defeated us in 1977. They must have made with the devil to win then.
wag naman adamson hihi.
i would like to see san beda in the uaap. and if the uaap were smart, they should encourage sbc to achieve university status asap. once they are in the uaap, i'm certain madadagdagan ang mga blockbuster sold-out games ng uaap dahil for sure, admu-sbc games would be well-attended.
yun nga lang, baka magselos ang la salle. baka mawalan sila ng identity nyan pag na-shift ang focus sa classic rivalry ng ateneo at san beda.
yun nga lang, baka magselos ang la salle. baka mawalan sila ng identity nyan pag na-shift ang focus sa classic rivalry ng ateneo at san beda.
enlightened us, how does one apply to get in the UAAP? Maybe they could give us a leeway even if we're not "yet" a university? hehehe
I don't think DLSU would be ignored once San Beda (oh God please be true) gets in. It would be a three-way streak this time making the UAAP more exciting ang more watchable. Though I think the other lesser known schools with the likes of Adamson, NU, FEU and UE, ok you might add UST would likely be the ones to get set aside. But hey, this will do the UAAP more good. Regarding UP? well, they're UP so no contention.
I don't think DLSU would be ignored once San Beda (oh God please be true) gets in. It would be a three-way streak this time making the UAAP more exciting ang more watchable. Though I think the other lesser known schools with the likes of Adamson, NU, FEU and UE, ok you might add UST would likely be the ones to get set aside. But hey, this will do the UAAP more good. Regarding UP? well, they're UP so no contention.
hello...m just new here....
anyway, yeah not only San Beda but CEU as well, San BEda's name wil be changed to San Beda University i think or University of San Beda and they will be called San Beda Gold Lions i think. Then for CEU, they will be called Scorpions.
anyway, yeah not only San Beda but CEU as well, San BEda's name wil be changed to San Beda University i think or University of San Beda and they will be called San Beda Gold Lions i think. Then for CEU, they will be called Scorpions.
Gold Lions? I don't think so. There's a big reason why San Beda uses the red color and I'll let Animo Red explain that. The consensus here in Atenista is to see Ateneo compete again against an old NCAA rival. There's a long history behind all of this.
I don't know exactly how a school gets into the UAAP. I guess university status may be a pre-requisite. However, I could never figure out how SBC never became a university after all this time. It had an Arts and Science and Law college, which is basically what Ateneo had when it became a university. Someone told me that it had to do with land area. That the small size of SBC's campus did not meet the minimum area needed for a university. My counter-argument was always the experience of CRC/UAP. You can just about drop that entire school's campus in the middle of SBC's football field.
I don't know exactly how a school gets into the UAAP. I guess university status may be a pre-requisite. However, I could never figure out how SBC never became a university after all this time. It had an Arts and Science and Law college, which is basically what Ateneo had when it became a university. Someone told me that it had to do with land area. That the small size of SBC's campus did not meet the minimum area needed for a university. My counter-argument was always the experience of CRC/UAP. You can just about drop that entire school's campus in the middle of SBC's football field.
QUOTE(Maverick @ Aug 28 2004, 11:27 AM)
Gold Lions? I don't think so. There's a big reason why San Beda uses the red color and I'll let Animo Red explain that. The consensus here in Atenista is to see Ateneo compete again against an old NCAA rival. There's a long history behind all of this.
I don't know exactly how a school gets into the UAAP. I guess university status may be a pre-requisite. However, I could never figure out how SBC never became a university after all this time. It had an Arts and Science and Law college, which is basically what Ateneo had when it became a university. Someone told me that it had to do with land area. That the small size of SBC's campus did not meet the minimum area needed for a university. My counter-argument was always the experience of CRC/UAP. You can just about drop that entire school's campus in the middle of SBC's football field.
I don't know exactly how a school gets into the UAAP. I guess university status may be a pre-requisite. However, I could never figure out how SBC never became a university after all this time. It had an Arts and Science and Law college, which is basically what Ateneo had when it became a university. Someone told me that it had to do with land area. That the small size of SBC's campus did not meet the minimum area needed for a university. My counter-argument was always the experience of CRC/UAP. You can just about drop that entire school's campus in the middle of SBC's football field.
And to add to that, SBC has produced more graduates who have contributed to our society in one way or another than other "universities" that are currently in the UAAP.
And though this will likely spell more trouble for my beloved blue eaglets, i sincerely hope to see the red cubs & the red lions in the uaap soon.
QUOTE(wonderboynastyman @ Aug 27 2004, 10:36 PM)
And though this will likely spell more trouble for my beloved blue eaglets, i sincerely hope to see the red cubs & the red lions in the uaap soon.
We'll just have to up the level of the Eaglets then! I have faith in the Ateneo system. We can go toe to toe with Badolato's boys anytime and anywhere.
Besides, the next few years will be crucial for the Red Cubs. The SBC high school department will be transferring to Taytay. This will definitely have an effect on the pool of players from which they can draw their team.
animo_red, the process for application is actually tedious and rather long because of a number of countervailing factors, which is another of way of saying that it's easy to apply but difficult to get accepted.
first, san beda college must first earn university status to be considered. yan ang dapat muna trabahuin ng mga brothers ninyo. once SBC becomes a university, i believe a waiting period to be determined by the UAAP board shall be observed. this would be roughly the equivalent of a student being put under probationary status.
once the waiting period has lapsed, the UAAP board will next convene to decide whether to accept or deny the school's application. in your case, i would bet that the main bone of contention would be the merits/pitfalls of accepting into the fold yet another NCAA founding member to the UAAP and its possible repercussions to a league that is steadily losing its luster and prestige since ateneo and la salle's transfer. lengthy deliberations and reviews will generate a broad spectrum of opinions and insights that will later be weighed upon by the members. this process can take years, trust me on this.
a decision to accept your school's request for application carries with it a list of terms and conditions furnished by the UAAP board that SBC must meet within a given time frame. failure to meet any one of those terms and conditions as stipulated by the board will put your application on hold until such is accomplished. another bout of heavy lifting.
now if you finally meet all the UAAP board conditionalities, next you await the final decision of the UAAP board. at this point, you're already on the clear, pasok na kayo--however, what you eagerly await is the date you finally make your UAAP debut. animo_red, if you're a senior pre-law student right now, it would be safe to say that you would already be taking the bar exams by the time the red lions face ateneo or la salle for the first time in a long, long time.
frankly i think what's holding back san beda's application to the UAAP is the real fear in both leagues of finally driving the last nail to the coffin of the NCAA should it come to pass. there's a lot more at stake than we can imagine.
first, san beda college must first earn university status to be considered. yan ang dapat muna trabahuin ng mga brothers ninyo. once SBC becomes a university, i believe a waiting period to be determined by the UAAP board shall be observed. this would be roughly the equivalent of a student being put under probationary status.
once the waiting period has lapsed, the UAAP board will next convene to decide whether to accept or deny the school's application. in your case, i would bet that the main bone of contention would be the merits/pitfalls of accepting into the fold yet another NCAA founding member to the UAAP and its possible repercussions to a league that is steadily losing its luster and prestige since ateneo and la salle's transfer. lengthy deliberations and reviews will generate a broad spectrum of opinions and insights that will later be weighed upon by the members. this process can take years, trust me on this.
a decision to accept your school's request for application carries with it a list of terms and conditions furnished by the UAAP board that SBC must meet within a given time frame. failure to meet any one of those terms and conditions as stipulated by the board will put your application on hold until such is accomplished. another bout of heavy lifting.
now if you finally meet all the UAAP board conditionalities, next you await the final decision of the UAAP board. at this point, you're already on the clear, pasok na kayo--however, what you eagerly await is the date you finally make your UAAP debut. animo_red, if you're a senior pre-law student right now, it would be safe to say that you would already be taking the bar exams by the time the red lions face ateneo or la salle for the first time in a long, long time.
frankly i think what's holding back san beda's application to the UAAP is the real fear in both leagues of finally driving the last nail to the coffin of the NCAA should it come to pass. there's a lot more at stake than we can imagine.
QUOTE(jancarlo @ Aug 28 2004, 11:16 AM)
hello...m just new here....
anyway, yeah not only San Beda but CEU as well, San BEda's name wil be changed to San Beda University i think or University of San Beda and they will be called San Beda Gold Lions i think. Then for CEU, they will be called Scorpions.
anyway, yeah not only San Beda but CEU as well, San BEda's name wil be changed to San Beda University i think or University of San Beda and they will be called San Beda Gold Lions i think. Then for CEU, they will be called Scorpions.
We are not gonna be changed to GOLD.
Regarding CEU joining the UAAP? It's just rumors, though they wanted to be called "Black Scorpions" but unofficially they are called "Pink Panthers" because of their uniforms.
I dunno how CEU suddenly got in the picture since they were never a basketball school to begin with.
gaslighting_abbie,
thanks for the explanation. We just have to play it by ear for now. And oh yeah, the Benedictines are monks not brothers. hehehe
thanks for the explanation. We just have to play it by ear for now. And oh yeah, the Benedictines are monks not brothers. hehehe
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frankly i think what's holding back san beda's application to the UAAP is the real fear in both leagues of finally driving the last nail to the coffin of the NCAA should it come to pass. there's a lot more at stake than we can imagine.
could you further explain about this one?
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 28 2004, 05:40 AM)
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frankly i think what's holding back san beda's application to the UAAP is the real fear in both leagues of finally driving the last nail to the coffin of the NCAA should it come to pass. there's a lot more at stake than we can imagine.
could you further explain about this one?
1) If San Beda bolts for the UAAP the last of the great "Glamor Teams" of the NCAA's halcyon days would have left for good.
2) That being said they will also take perhaps the best damn Juniors program in the country with them, giving renewed importance to the already hyped up Juniors basketball divison of the UAAP.
3) The renewed rivalry between Beda and Ateneo will render DLRT's UAAP participation moot. (I'd say "academic" as well but that doesn't apply to DLRT!)
4) The NCAA is having a hard time filling up venues as it is, having Beda leave will deplete their market share even more.
Gas, feel free to supply whatever else I may have missed.
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 28 2004, 01:40 PM)
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frankly i think what's holding back san beda's application to the UAAP is the real fear in both leagues of finally driving the last nail to the coffin of the NCAA should it come to pass. there's a lot more at stake than we can imagine.
could you further explain about this one?
The NCAA might be reluctant to release SBC because in doing so, they might actually "kill" the NCAA. The NCAA board might do everything to talk SBC out of leaving the league because the absence of the most marketable & basketball tradition-rich school in the NCAA (yes, its SBC, not the DLSU-CSB branch you greenies) would only make the NCAA look more inferior to the UAAP.
From the pase our monks are working now:
Suddenly being coed, new colleges, new courses, Alabang being San Beda, all in a span of less than two years (though these changes had tend to be overwhelming) University status might seem quicker than we expect.
Suddenly being coed, new colleges, new courses, Alabang being San Beda, all in a span of less than two years (though these changes had tend to be overwhelming) University status might seem quicker than we expect.
QUOTE(wonderboynastyman @ Aug 28 2004, 01:59 PM)
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 28 2004, 01:40 PM)
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frankly i think what's holding back san beda's application to the UAAP is the real fear in both leagues of finally driving the last nail to the coffin of the NCAA should it come to pass. there's a lot more at stake than we can imagine.
could you further explain about this one?
The NCAA might be reluctant to release SBC because in doing so, they might actually "kill" the NCAA. The NCAA board might do everything to talk SBC out of leaving the league because the absence of the most marketable & basketball tradition-rich school in the NCAA (yes, its SBC, not the DLSU-CSB branch you greenies) would only make the NCAA look more inferior to the UAAP.
NCAA stopping San Beda from leaving? That's when you will feel the wrath of our alumni. hehehe You just can't imagine how many generations of Bedans would like to see us face Ateneo again. We're itching to go.
QUOTE(joescoundrel @ Aug 28 2004, 05:53 AM)
1) If San Beda bolts for the UAAP the last of the great "Glamor Teams" of the NCAA's halcyon days would have left for good.
Di ba glamor team din ang Letran?
Letran? Glamour?
I'll quote what Maverick said in our site, bedista.com read on...
I'll quote what Maverick said in our site, bedista.com read on...
QUOTE("Maverick")
That's why we look forward to meeting your Red Lions again in the UAAP. Am sure even the La Sallites will be happy to see you guys again.
The Letranistas were considered the "bad boys" of the old NCAA days. There was an incident in the early sixties when they played a game against Ateneo at Loyola Center (that's the gym in the Ateneo campus with the huge eagle). After they lost the game, they started all these fights and they had to be cleared out of the campus. They assembled at the gas station across the street (where McDonald's in Katipunan is now located) and Ateneo's gates were locked. The Letranistas then scaled the Ateneo fence to continue the fight.
Their fights against La Salle were legendary. They even once invaded the La Salle campus and beat up the La Sallites having lunch at the Archers' Nook. Of course, the worst was when they fought against the La Sallites and Danding Cojuangco's goons in 1981. I felt bad that La Salle had to hire outsiders to defend themselves. There is no honor in that.
My father also told me of this incident in his time (late fifties/early sixties). Then, if San Beda had a game during class days, you were excused from class if you went to the game. Like all good Bedan scholars, my father would hop on the SBC bus to Rizal Memorial. He was sleeping on the bus when he was awoken by an ROTC belt hitting him across the face. The Letran boys had ambushed their bus and were climbing through the windows!
Actually, even in my time, we had an encounter against Letran -- although we met them for just one exhibition game. That was after the 1987 championship, the UAAP champion (Ateneo) met the NCAA champ (Letran) for one of these exhibition games. Early in the game, Ateneo raced to a 14-0 lead and Letran was never seriously in the contest. Their crowd just entertained themselves and did whatever they wanted. Before the contest even ended, some of their crowd started filing out. That was OK since the game was out of reach. When the Ateneo crowd started leaving ULTRA, lo and behold, the Letranistas were waiting outside and spoiling for a fight. Actually, they were targetting the Blue Babble members! We had to fight our way through to get home!
The Letranistas were considered the "bad boys" of the old NCAA days. There was an incident in the early sixties when they played a game against Ateneo at Loyola Center (that's the gym in the Ateneo campus with the huge eagle). After they lost the game, they started all these fights and they had to be cleared out of the campus. They assembled at the gas station across the street (where McDonald's in Katipunan is now located) and Ateneo's gates were locked. The Letranistas then scaled the Ateneo fence to continue the fight.
Their fights against La Salle were legendary. They even once invaded the La Salle campus and beat up the La Sallites having lunch at the Archers' Nook. Of course, the worst was when they fought against the La Sallites and Danding Cojuangco's goons in 1981. I felt bad that La Salle had to hire outsiders to defend themselves. There is no honor in that.
My father also told me of this incident in his time (late fifties/early sixties). Then, if San Beda had a game during class days, you were excused from class if you went to the game. Like all good Bedan scholars, my father would hop on the SBC bus to Rizal Memorial. He was sleeping on the bus when he was awoken by an ROTC belt hitting him across the face. The Letran boys had ambushed their bus and were climbing through the windows!
Actually, even in my time, we had an encounter against Letran -- although we met them for just one exhibition game. That was after the 1987 championship, the UAAP champion (Ateneo) met the NCAA champ (Letran) for one of these exhibition games. Early in the game, Ateneo raced to a 14-0 lead and Letran was never seriously in the contest. Their crowd just entertained themselves and did whatever they wanted. Before the contest even ended, some of their crowd started filing out. That was OK since the game was out of reach. When the Ateneo crowd started leaving ULTRA, lo and behold, the Letranistas were waiting outside and spoiling for a fight. Actually, they were targetting the Blue Babble members! We had to fight our way through to get home!
Oh, yes, Letran, the bete noire of the NCAA. They once had a group of players in the late 40's, early 50's called "Murder, Inc." Doesn't leave much to the imagination, does it? In the eighties, they went up against Baste in a championship which was televised. Aside from throwing firecrackers on the court, the Letranistas started giving stick to SSC's Paul Alvarez by yelling "Alvarez, Alvarez, P#t@ng In@ Mo@" ad infinitum. The tv guys tried to block out the offensive chant but no can do. Dick Ildefonso just commented: "Pretty creative cheering, don't you think?"
If Beda leaves, they just might become the glamour boys of the NCAA.
If Beda leaves, they just might become the glamour boys of the NCAA.
it would really be good to see old rivals - ateneo and san beda fight head on in the UAAP!!! i hope they do it fast...
...btw i dont think san beda will use the monicker "gold lion"... san beda was first to use the color red... in fact they have all the right to use it... no body can change that!
...btw i dont think san beda will use the monicker "gold lion"... san beda was first to use the color red... in fact they have all the right to use it... no body can change that!
saan ba ang laro mamaya sa philsports ba or araneta?
Philsports
Aside from Tenorio and Membrere? Are there other Red Cubs in the team? I've heard there was one but he doesn't usually have much play time.
ford arao and yuri escueta.
isama mo na si mike baldos, who's serving time in team b. pero if all goes well and he continues to improve, he has a very strong chance of taking over bugia's slot next year when bugs "retires."
isama mo na si mike baldos, who's serving time in team b. pero if all goes well and he continues to improve, he has a very strong chance of taking over bugia's slot next year when bugs "retires."
Oh yeah... no wonder Arao looks familiar. I remember some Beda boys were like ranting that he's not giving much playing time.
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 29 2004, 03:23 PM)
Aside from Tenorio and Membrere? Are there other Red Cubs in the team? I've heard there was one but he doesn't usually have much play time.
Next year team will probably have more red cub players than AHS players. There may be at least 5 former red cubs next year in Tenorio, Membrere, Arao, Escueta and Baldos. Although, Membrere may decide not to use his last year of eligibility since he graduated last year and is currently a grad student. There is another former red cub in team B with Baldos, a pg but he will have a hard time making varsity next year. To many pg on the team.
Would you believe a starting 5 for Ateneo next year consisting of former players from NCAA teams. Aguilar at center, Arao at pf, Intal at sf, Membrere at sg and Tenorio at point.
The recruiting buzz says that Ateneo may not end up with any new Bedans for next year. LaSalle on the other hand is hoping to land at least 2 players, both guards as Menor may be staying home for a change.
QUOTE(BLUE HORSE @ Aug 30 2004, 07:17 AM)
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 29 2004, 03:23 PM)
Aside from Tenorio and Membrere? Are there other Red Cubs in the team? I've heard there was one but he doesn't usually have much play time.
Next year team will probably have more red cub players than AHS players. There may be at least 5 former red cubs next year in Tenorio, Membrere, Arao, Escueta and Baldos. Although, Membrere may decide not to use his last year of eligibility since he graduated last year and is currently a grad student. There is another former red cub in team B with Baldos, a pg but he will have a hard time making varsity next year. To many pg on the team.
Would you believe a starting 5 for Ateneo next year consisting of former players from NCAA teams. Aguilar at center, Arao at pf, Intal at sf, Membrere at sg and Tenorio at point.
The recruiting buzz says that Ateneo may not end up with any new Bedans for next year. LaSalle on the other hand is hoping to land at least 2 players, both guards as Menor may be staying home for a change.
word form the red cubs is that "shaq" taganas & menor are indeed staying with san beda. good for the team.
I thought this year's is Membrere's last year of eligibility? Yeah Taganas and Menor would be staying in the Lion's Den alright. I do hope they would make an big impact.
Membrere entered the UAAP together with Fonacier. However, he still has 1 year of eligibility left because he sat out the championship season of Ateneo due to an ACL injury he suffered during the PBL season.
Trivia: There was a second player from SBC who was recruited by Ateneo but for whatever reason he decided against playing for Ateneo. The player, Arjun Cordero. I think it partly had to do with playing time given that Sison, Alvarez and Gonzales was ahead of him.
If he stays for his last year of eligibility, he will definitely give the team senior leadership together with Tenorio. Contrary to what others have said when he first came to Ateneo, Membrere graduated on time with his batch and is currently a graduate student.
Trivia: There was a second player from SBC who was recruited by Ateneo but for whatever reason he decided against playing for Ateneo. The player, Arjun Cordero. I think it partly had to do with playing time given that Sison, Alvarez and Gonzales was ahead of him.
If he stays for his last year of eligibility, he will definitely give the team senior leadership together with Tenorio. Contrary to what others have said when he first came to Ateneo, Membrere graduated on time with his batch and is currently a graduate student.
About Arjun, well, we all applaud him for staying in San Beda, though it's quite saddening that San Beda never entered the Final Four during his playing years, it wasn't his fault the other just doesn't have the fighting spirit. Some are having regrets that he should've transferred to Ateneo instead, but that's water under the bridge now.
Among the Red Cubs who went to Ateneo, it is Membrere that i have really high respects for. YOu would see in him simplicity and humility and he never let anything go to his head. During a match with UP two years ago, he even gave a high five to his former teammate Michael Bravo.
I wish I could say the same with the other one. During the exhibition game last year between San Beda and Ateneo, at least Membrere showed deference to his former school when we were singing the Bedan Hymn, even Arao, etc who were a bit "diyahe" but still they showed deference. Unlike someone, who's a major player for your school right now, did not- and we were a bit insulted with that.
Among the Red Cubs who went to Ateneo, it is Membrere that i have really high respects for. YOu would see in him simplicity and humility and he never let anything go to his head. During a match with UP two years ago, he even gave a high five to his former teammate Michael Bravo.
I wish I could say the same with the other one. During the exhibition game last year between San Beda and Ateneo, at least Membrere showed deference to his former school when we were singing the Bedan Hymn, even Arao, etc who were a bit "diyahe" but still they showed deference. Unlike someone, who's a major player for your school right now, did not- and we were a bit insulted with that.
Sebastian "Didoy" Lon of the 1999 champion red cubs team also matriculated at Ateneo but never made it to the lineup.
which leads me to believe that the horror stories about the way the seniors team is being run are true. take for example, players like lon, baldos, braganza, escueta, agbayani, marcos, etc. they all could have played for san beda and even seen extensive minutes but they chose to go to ateneo or up to either become fringe players or team b players.
which leads me to believe that the horror stories about the way the seniors team is being run are true. take for example, players like lon, baldos, braganza, escueta, agbayani, marcos, etc. they all could have played for san beda and even seen extensive minutes but they chose to go to ateneo or up to either become fringe players or team b players.
If there's one team that I'd love to see in the UAAP, it would have to be San Beda. It would be great to bring back the glory days of the Ateneo-Beda rivalry. And from the posts in other threads, I get the impression that Bedans have as much spunk and spirit as our 6th man. Blue vs Red instead of Blue vs Green anyone?
QUOTE(BLUE HORSE @ Aug 29 2004, 11:17 PM)
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 29 2004, 03:23 PM)
Aside from Tenorio and Membrere? Are there other Red Cubs in the team? I've heard there was one but he doesn't usually have much play time.
Next year team will probably have more red cub players than AHS players. There may be at least 5 former red cubs next year in Tenorio, Membrere, Arao, Escueta and Baldos. Although, Membrere may decide not to use his last year of eligibility since he graduated last year and is currently a grad student. There is another former red cub in team B with Baldos, a pg but he will have a hard time making varsity next year. To many pg on the team.
Would you believe a starting 5 for Ateneo next year consisting of former players from NCAA teams. Aguilar at center, Arao at pf, Intal at sf, Membrere at sg and Tenorio at point.
The recruiting buzz says that Ateneo may not end up with any new Bedans for next year. LaSalle on the other hand is hoping to land at least 2 players, both guards as Menor may be staying home for a change.
Horse,
Mike Baldos is a 3 or 4 (6'3-1/2 or 6'4). The Red Cub PG in ADMU's Team B is De Guzman, whom I heard is playing very well for Team B (same with Baldos).
QUOTE(canmaker @ Aug 30 2004, 02:26 PM)
QUOTE(BLUE HORSE @ Aug 29 2004, 11:17 PM)
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 29 2004, 03:23 PM)
Aside from Tenorio and Membrere? Are there other Red Cubs in the team? I've heard there was one but he doesn't usually have much play time.
Next year team will probably have more red cub players than AHS players. There may be at least 5 former red cubs next year in Tenorio, Membrere, Arao, Escueta and Baldos. Although, Membrere may decide not to use his last year of eligibility since he graduated last year and is currently a grad student. There is another former red cub in team B with Baldos, a pg but he will have a hard time making varsity next year. To many pg on the team.
Would you believe a starting 5 for Ateneo next year consisting of former players from NCAA teams. Aguilar at center, Arao at pf, Intal at sf, Membrere at sg and Tenorio at point.
The recruiting buzz says that Ateneo may not end up with any new Bedans for next year. LaSalle on the other hand is hoping to land at least 2 players, both guards as Menor may be staying home for a change.
Horse,
Mike Baldos is a 3 or 4 (6'3-1/2 or 6'4). The Red Cub PG in ADMU's Team B is De Guzman, whom I heard is playing very well for Team B (same with Baldos).
Horse,
yup. De Guzman is the "Martin" we were referring to in the past FMC games.
Don't be surprised if you see Zion L. making varsity next year. The guy has improved dramatically. He has grown at least an inch taller and has learned to post up. At this point, he is playing better than Mike Baldos.
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 30 2004, 11:28 AM)
Among the Red Cubs who went to Ateneo, it is Membrere that i have really high respects for. YOu would see in him simplicity and humility and he never let anything go to his head. During a match with UP two years ago, he even gave a high five to his former teammate Michael Bravo.
I wish I could say the same with the other one. During the exhibition game last year between San Beda and Ateneo, at least Membrere showed deference to his former school when we were singing the Bedan Hymn, even Arao, etc who were a bit "diyahe" but still they showed deference. Unlike someone, who's a major player for your school right now, did not- and we were a bit insulted with that.
I wish I could say the same with the other one. During the exhibition game last year between San Beda and Ateneo, at least Membrere showed deference to his former school when we were singing the Bedan Hymn, even Arao, etc who were a bit "diyahe" but still they showed deference. Unlike someone, who's a major player for your school right now, did not- and we were a bit insulted with that.
i wasn't present during that game pero allow me to defend that player:
baka naman he just didn't feel too good considering we lost that game. hindi naman siguro nya intensyong mang-insulto. kung mapapansin mo kasi, that player HATES LOSING. kahit siguro former alma matter nya yon. baka na-depress sa pagkatalo namin... anyway, i just couldn't imagine him na mayabang because according to reports and from my good friend na dating tutor nya, sobrang humble daw ng player na to...
QUOTE(bluewing @ Aug 30 2004, 11:42 PM)
QUOTE(animo_red @ Aug 30 2004, 11:28 AM)
Among the Red Cubs who went to Ateneo, it is Membrere that i have really high respects for. YOu would see in him simplicity and humility and he never let anything go to his head. During a match with UP two years ago, he even gave a high five to his former teammate Michael Bravo.
I wish I could say the same with the other one. During the exhibition game last year between San Beda and Ateneo, at least Membrere showed deference to his former school when we were singing the Bedan Hymn, even Arao, etc who were a bit "diyahe" but still they showed deference. Unlike someone, who's a major player for your school right now, did not- and we were a bit insulted with that.
I wish I could say the same with the other one. During the exhibition game last year between San Beda and Ateneo, at least Membrere showed deference to his former school when we were singing the Bedan Hymn, even Arao, etc who were a bit "diyahe" but still they showed deference. Unlike someone, who's a major player for your school right now, did not- and we were a bit insulted with that.
i wasn't present during that game pero allow me to defend that player:
baka naman he just didn't feel too good considering we lost that game. hindi naman siguro nya intensyong mang-insulto. kung mapapansin mo kasi, that player HATES LOSING. kahit siguro former alma matter nya yon. baka na-depress sa pagkatalo namin... anyway, i just couldn't imagine him na mayabang because according to reports and from my good friend na dating tutor nya, sobrang humble daw ng player na to...
Well I'll take your word for it. He might just seem "maangas" on court. Regarding what he did, it was talked about in school because no one was expecting he would do that, so people perceived it as negative.
i am inclined to think he was just too drained and pissed-off after the san beda loss, yet i also understand animo red's misgivings about his acute turncoatism as if his stint as a former red cub was deleted from his memory like it was done in the movie "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind." based on the accounts i've read here in this thread, what rankled was the sight of magnum singing heartily his former alma mater song while the other didn't, di ba?
i was at that Ateneo-San Beda game. actually, some Ateneans were a bit insulted by Magnum and Ford heartily singing their alma mater song. but tinangap naman. after all, they matriculated there. but while i understand the Bedans feelings re: LA, sa akin, dapat, for whatever team you're playing for, sana, just out of respect, wag na lang magpakita ng kung ano sa former school. can you imagine how we would have felt if Eric Reyes uttered the words, Hail, hail, alma mater ..."
QUOTE(Bleachers King @ Aug 31 2004, 07:20 AM)
i was at that Ateneo-San Beda game. actually, some Ateneans were a bit insulted by Magnum and Ford heartily singing their alma mater song. but tinangap naman. after all, they matriculated there. but while i understand the Bedans feelings re: LA, sa akin, dapat, for whatever team you're playing for, sana, just out of respect, wag na lang magpakita ng kung ano sa former school. can you imagine how we would have felt if Eric Reyes uttered the words, Hail, hail, alma mater ..."
i dunno... i never really got pissed when "he-who-shall-not-be-named" (bj manalo
) never sang our alma mater whenever he played us...
I was also in that game. Allow me to express my perception.
When the game started, LA was even horsing around with the Bedans. I felt he was taking the game lightly. However, the Bedan guards were rough on him; parang talo talo. I could understand every guard in the collegiate league trying to put one over LA. But LA, it seems, felt he should not have been treated that way. Mukhang medyo masama din ang loob niya.
My two cents worth.
When the game started, LA was even horsing around with the Bedans. I felt he was taking the game lightly. However, the Bedan guards were rough on him; parang talo talo. I could understand every guard in the collegiate league trying to put one over LA. But LA, it seems, felt he should not have been treated that way. Mukhang medyo masama din ang loob niya.
My two cents worth.
Any Atenean who watched or saw the game this afternoon against PCU?
I watched the game at the Rizal yesterday with my bedan friend. Beda lost big time. Ncaa in my opinion is really in a soorry state of affairs. They don't sing their alma mater after their games. I think beda is just one of the few schools that sing their alma mater. When the bedans were singing their hymn, the PCU people were chanting..."Uwi na kayo!" but the worst part is...the bedan players themselves were running to their dug-out and not even listening to their schoolmates sing!! The only cheer that PCU has is just chanting P-C-U (just like feu's chant of F-E-U!). The cheering of San Beda is in a sorry state as well. They did their vaunted indian yell, but I only heard the drums and none of the students were mouthing the cheers. No little indians at half time as well, because their grade school is now in Rizal province. They also copied the "Lets go archers lets go" cheer of DLRT and replaced it with "Lets go beda lets go," apart from that cheer I could distinctly hear the drumbeats from another DLSU cheer. (whats going on with Beda???!! I thought they had lots of traditional cheers???!). As an added bonus -Beda chanted "ISKWATER ISAKWATER."
Beda's last championship was in 1978!!
I was really sad for them. Maverick was right...Beda is wasting away in the NCAA.
Beda's last championship was in 1978!!
I was really sad for them. Maverick was right...Beda is wasting away in the NCAA.
Another disappointing season for the Red Lions, especially for King Lion Arjun Cordero. The story could have been different for them had they won a few of those games where they collapsed in the last quarter.
I hope they can transfer to the UAAP sooner rather than later.
Take heart, Bedans.
I hope they can transfer to the UAAP sooner rather than later.
Take heart, Bedans.
They can take heart in knowing that the big boys of the red cubs are probably staying home for a change. They will still need a center and a point guard. Racela should try to retain the top six red cubs and add Al-Hussaini from PCU. Kaso, 2 of the guards may be off to Taft for next year.
QUOTE(a70 @ Sep 2 2004, 06:56 AM)
I watched the game at the Rizal yesterday with my bedan friend. Beda lost big time. Ncaa in my opinion is really in a soorry state of affairs. They don't sing their alma mater after their games. I think beda is just one of the few schools that sing their alma mater. When the bedans were singing their hymn, the PCU people were chanting..."Uwi na kayo!" but the worst part is...the bedan players themselves were running to their dug-out and not even listening to their schoolmates sing!! The only cheer that PCU has is just chanting P-C-U (just like feu's chant of F-E-U!). The cheering of San Beda is in a sorry state as well. They did their vaunted indian yell, but I only heard the drums and none of the students were mouthing the cheers. No little indians at half time as well, because their grade school is now in Rizal province. They also copied the "Lets go archers lets go" cheer of DLRT and replaced it with "Lets go beda lets go," apart from that cheer I could distinctly hear the drumbeats from another DLSU cheer. (whats going on with Beda???!! I thought they had lots of traditional cheers???!). As an added bonus -Beda chanted "ISKWATER ISAKWATER."
Beda's last championship was in 1978!!
I was really sad for them. Maverick was right...Beda is wasting away in the NCAA.
Beda's last championship was in 1978!!
I was really sad for them. Maverick was right...Beda is wasting away in the NCAA.
I did not watch the games, since I'm not really fond of watching the NC. Well, you saw it first hand how the schools insult each other? hehehe It's part of the NC. Well it has been our "tradition" to insult some of them if they get a bit rude. But I was surprised that there was an overwhelming support from the community, and they did not even leave when we lost (another stupid thing you see in the NC). in the NC, there's no such thing as gracious losers.
Regarding our cheers, well you have to understand, the school is in transition. Who would really want to cheer if your opponents are with the likes of PCU or Letran? And no Little Indians (yet) As what Maverick said, when Ateneo was the only NC school in the UAAP (and there was no La Salle), you guys also had a hard time uplifting your school spirit. We did not have that copied cheer, "Let's Go Archer's Let's Go-ish" beat during my time (and that wasn't long ago). But there's only one cheer that is similar to DLSU (and we do not say we copied it from them, just like the word "animo"), the "wooooaah..... Go San Beda Fight" similar to their, "Animo La Salle" that's all. Well a lot of Bedans are complaining about our PEP Squad anyway, but we will let your opinion be known as well. Don't get disheartened, the mere fact we revived our fighting spirit even if we were on the losing side is a big change. Besides, it's only basketball in a stinking league, life goes on.
We will leave the NC, I just hope they could speed things up for us. hehehe kiddin
QUOTE(BLUE HORSE @ Sep 2 2004, 09:19 AM)
They can take heart in knowing that the big boys of the red cubs are probably staying home for a change. They will still need a center and a point guard. Racela should try to retain the top six red cubs and add Al-Hussaini from PCU. Kaso, 2 of the guards may be off to Taft for next year.
So there are no Cubs being courted by Ateneo this year?
animo_red:
There seems to be no serious attempt to recruit a Red Cub at this time. If ever there would be one, my vote goes to Martinez. He is an ambidextrous and upright dribbler with a deadshot. He plays the 2 now but he can easily play the point. He should give Jai Reyes a run for his money. I think La Salle is after Martinez.
As for Ateneo, we are too loaded in all positions. We also have so much talent in Team B and we have a couple more hidden. What we can use now is an additional and very tall off guard to create mismatches at the perimeter. This should have been the role of Zach but he failed to take his vitamins.
However, if Uichico and Barracoso step up, this role may be filled.
There seems to be no serious attempt to recruit a Red Cub at this time. If ever there would be one, my vote goes to Martinez. He is an ambidextrous and upright dribbler with a deadshot. He plays the 2 now but he can easily play the point. He should give Jai Reyes a run for his money. I think La Salle is after Martinez.
As for Ateneo, we are too loaded in all positions. We also have so much talent in Team B and we have a couple more hidden. What we can use now is an additional and very tall off guard to create mismatches at the perimeter. This should have been the role of Zach but he failed to take his vitamins.
However, if Uichico and Barracoso step up, this role may be filled.
QUOTE(a70 @ Sep 2 2004, 06:56 AM)
As an added bonus -Beda chanted "ISKWATER ISAKWATER."
Bedan-Atenean here. About the chanting of "ISKWATER", we were trying to avoid chanting that the whole game. It's just that the opponent's crowd was sooo rude to yell "BASURA" repeatedly while we were singing the Bedan Hymn.
Well, that's NCAA for you...
QUOTE(TryCatchFinally @ Sep 2 2004, 02:45 PM)
QUOTE(a70 @ Sep 2 2004, 06:56 AM)
As an added bonus -Beda chanted "ISKWATER ISAKWATER."
Bedan-Atenean here. About the chanting of "ISKWATER", we were trying to avoid chanting that the whole game. It's just that the opponent's crowd was sooo rude to yell "BASURA" repeatedly while we were singing the Bedan Hymn.
Well, that's NCAA for you...
were you at the NCAA game wherein baste students lit up a "sawa" firecracker in the bleacher's section of the rizal coliseum?
^ uuuuhh... no. but i've read about it. that was in the 70's right?
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