Thanks for the support, animo red. It is appreciated.

Anent your PM -- I actually had written a very long essay in reply. As I was sending it, I lost my internet connection and the essay went to hell. Anyway, let me recollect my thoughts and I'll get back to you.

^ awwww dang... was really looking forward to them thoughts of yours. hehehe

Animo Red,

Be careful what you wish for. You just might get them.

Actually, I noticed that too and sometimes i feel dissapointed. Me and my friends cheer our hearts out to the extent that we rest even during cheering in the 4th quarter but the people around us just seem to stand and just watch. The last time I saw the Lasalle crowd a solid cheering group was during the 2nd round encounter with Ateneo.

I just hope that Lasallians will discover anew the animo in them and find the joy of cheering for our team.

Although you can't blame the crowd if they are not cheering if they are behind in the game BUT if your team is in the lead and you are not cheering then why the f**k are you doing in the venue? That kind of people should stay at home and let those who want to cheer watch the games live.

Peace Out!

Animo Lasalle!

simulation green,

We can never be prouder of our Sixth Man last Sunday. If you were in the venue, you would have noticed that we never stopped cheering even if our team was losing. Such is the heart of an Atenean.

Congratulations, man. It's nice to see unbiased views coming from your side. More power to you.

+amdg

off topic:
it's good to be back online.

anyway, when I watch a DLSU ADMU game with my friends from the green side, kakatawa mas memorize ko pa Rektikano kaysa sa kanila (that's how many times I watch the games with them). When I'm in the greenside mahina nga ang sigaw, but across the stadium solid nga Ateneo. REminds me of my own school crowd.

Hey Mav,
Since this is your territory, what can you say of that drunken loon who has been running awol in the other forum. Even hitting on you guys...

i agree!

Animo Red,

I have seen the post you are alluding to. I don't think it would be good form to comment on the statements made in another forum. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Such maturity manifested despite repeated contrasting remarks.

Being objective (as usual) we did cheer our hearts out in game 1 of the Final Four (or game 2 in reference to the virtual best of 3), but I can also not comment positively about my fellow Ateneans who were there in the Upper B section. Unfortunately, as the clock was winding down in the 4th canto and the game result almost carved in stone, the gallery was shocked and a cloud of gloom of an early season exit prevailed over the will to cheer.

No problem. Its just normal and its hard to cheer on when the result is irreversible and the our season's end is just a few game minutes away.

Just one question..... why such statements to uplift yourself like "mas memorized ko pa cheer nila kesa sa kanila" or "kakatawa sila talaga" or these trash or such reminds you of your old school.

With all due respect, I find SBC cheering lousy too but this would be the only time I would publicly criticize it. All I heard during the games were drums and the same halftime antics all the time. Cheering? If thats your operational definition, then fine with you but definitely not even near UAAP level.

And your opinion about the other school? I don't care what you think..... because it does not count for us. Confine your comments to your own NCAA school.

And if all Bedans act like you and subsequently join the UAAP? Never mind....
With that attitude, you will never know what you are posting on the green forum about us.

hay.. let me remind you animo_ateneo92, we "BEDANS" wer not tryin to fit in into UAAP or even dreamt of lining up w/ "elite schuls".. maybe its his own opinion.. im not sayin ur generalizin.. but pls refrain from it.. rmember, the very instinct of an individual was to make theirselves unique as it cud to form an identity.. so idea lng NIYA un.. hndi lahat ng bedans.. kill this thread.. nobody pays dat much atention to this anymore.. and wats the big deal bout SAN BEDA transferrin to UAAP? evrybody wants to be in the UAAP.. but not us..

off topic:

congrats to DLSU.. champions season 67..

I was there at the venue. Man! the game was so wild!!!

I want to say that your 6th man never gave up and so was ours. Although I can see from both sides that there still spectators around that doesnt care to cheer.

Now Season 67 is over with my school coming out victorious after a lousy 4-4 start, I wish to defend our title next year against Ateneo. The most deserving school to go against with. Next year I will be cheering as a graduate and that means i'll be wilder than ever because I am already true green. How sweet to start and end my college years being UAAP Champions.

Congrats to the Women's team! I cheered for them!

See You in Season 68!

Peace Out!

Animo Lasalle!!!

^ Congrats to you guys. but I can't help notice a pattern, DLSU always wins when there's a Bedan in the team, and surprisingly he played a major role for that win.

i can't disagree with you.

Casio is forming into someone that lasalle deply missed during the last two years. A shooter. someone who can shoot the dagger to win the game. A role that was last played by a bedan, my idol, Renren Ritualo. Bedan players know how to shoot down their enemy during the dying minutes.

Kudos to Coach Ato Badolato!(tama ba spelling ko?)

PEACE OUT!

ANIMO LASALLE!!

yup.. u spelld it right.. pro wat we wer thinkin.. it was ur gain and it was our loss.. no way cud we match up w/ d offers dat u give to ur players.. our bedan monks wont do anythin about d exodus of our red cubs if it wud involve offers aside frm quality education.. wat our father-rector told us.. "we cud jst ask these players to stay, w/o any conditions, just play for ur alma mater whole-heartedly.." wel indeed, he's right.. we shouldnt engineer dis kids w/ d wrong ideas.. we cnt just let them bargain for money.. tsk.. lets no be hypocrite.. we all knew bout dis..

wow, you heard our drums? that's new.

anyway, it's all good pare. chill.

Before I was still flattered when I see our Red Cubs turn out to be key players in their UAAP teams, now we I can't help but get irked already, our loss is your gain indeed. What we have toiled for, makikinabang lang ang iba.

One question for those close to the team. Who in the Red Cubs are the Blue Eagles eyeing for? I'm sure Menor is one of them but it looks as if Martinez is the hot item, considering that La Salle is on the run for him. Is it the reason why many claim that Menor and Taganas are staying in the Lions' Den or Ateneo is not really for Martinez and the other guards?

None at the moment. Martinez may be a good bet because he is a good shooter. However, he is still rather short and could easily be covered by a 6'3" athletic defender.

Plus, there is a guy from the South who is much better, taller, and athletic than him.

At the moment, the bias is for pure and tall shooting guards.

as far as i know, it is the team manager and other alumni that gives eye-popping offers to excellent high school players. The administration is just standing by and waits because waht can the administration do if loyal and die-hard alumni try to lure players to our school? if the administration has any intervention then i guess its just minimal

I guess the administration realized that even though their minimal intervention they are still losing a lot of money. Thats why they revived the La Salle Athletic League(LSAL), where i play for my batch, so that they can discover possible players who are already in La Salle. The admin will offer a spot at the roster to quality players in the LSAL and that's it. No scholarship because these players are already enrolled in La Salle so that means that they are capable to shoulder their tuition fee. Great Idea! So players that will come from LSAL will play with heart because they are playing for La Salle and not for the scholarship.

Well, i guess the alumni of San Beda should be more active in convincing their home grown players. Convince in a manner of talking to them.

PEACE OUT!

ANIMO LASALLE!!!

^ It's not our alumni's fault, our monks doesn't want us to interfere that much in influencing our Cubs what path to take after High School. The only thing we can do is to ask them to stay, even if the school doesn't offer much like a condo or a car, etc. if they agree than good for us. The school doesn't want to give them the wrong set of values like getting blinded with material stuff.

But in fairness, there's this growing awareness that our Cubs must indeed stay and there are a lot of Bedans in school making an effort even in small ways to get that message across to them. If they happen to see our prized Cubs, they don't hesitate to approach them and have a brief chit chat. They "make lambing" to our Cubs to stay, and by those gestures, our Cubs are getting the point.

as far as i know. casio wanted to go to lasalle and lasalle recruited him so it was a no brainer that he wil o to lasalle. Now, the exposure that the NCAA get I think the future cubs will decide to stay because they will be also exposed. Exposure is the main reason why players from NCAA high school teams crossover to the UAAP seniors team.

San Beda-Ateneo Trivia:

Just had dinner with my friend who's a Benedictine monk, and he told me this interesting story, the founder of the Jesuits, St. Ignatius of Loyola originally wanted to become a Benedictine. And when the time came he had to decide what his mission in life would be- where he received a vision to establish a new order, he was staying in a Benedictine Monastery.

And the sword he was holding- i think you have this statue of him in Ateneo- he was offering it to Our Lady of Monserrat, our Patroness.

cool...

animo_red great tidbit. Is this the reason why a San Beda-Ateneo rivalry existed (or is it still in the flesh up to now?)?

cackler who's this guy from the South? South what? Southern Philippines or South of the Metro like in DLSZ, San Beda-Alabang, etc.? I have to agree with the fact that Martinez is indeed small when you put him in the senior ranks. But wait, isn't it that JV Casio is also small? I think Martinez is a bit taller than him. So you're saying that the Ateneans are not yet going after the Cubs huh?

Young Lion,

Not yet the right time to reveal names. Don't worry, you'll know. The recruitment war is on and the best strategy is not to comment on anything - at least not yet.

A recruit from Bene? I highly doubt it. Major flop baskeball program nila dun.

I think that's not really why the Ateneo-San Beda rivalry started. My Dom friend also said that back in the 70's when San Beda needed some financial aid, since that was the time of nationalistic protest ata? Daming gulo sa Mendiola, the Spanish monks were ordered back to the Motherhouse in Barcelona (since they were targeting Spanish citizens), San Beda's enrollment flopped and the school almost closed. Ateneo offered financial aid. Let's say the Jesuits and the Benedictines had a special relationship, since their founder wanted to be a Benedictine nga. Quite a contrast from the basketball rivalry indeed.

Benedictine had a very good basketball team last year. Foronda shopped himself around and landed a spot in LaSalle's team B. He is the replacement for Gaco next year. I heard Mikey Victorino was the heart and soul of that team but he tried to sell his soul to other schools. LSGH alumni were able to entice him to transfer until Brother Bernie or one of the admin said no. There is a rule in LSGH and in AHS disallowing transfers from other schools for their senior year of high school. Victorino ended up playing for Badolato but struggled in learning the system.

LaSalle more than Ateneo is the likely home for any of this years Red Cubs. The scouts of LaSalle has carefully charted the progress of Menor, Martinez, Victorino and the other guard. Ateneo simply has to many players in team B waiting for a chance to make varsity and a couple of them have a very good chance this year including former Bedan Mike Baldos.

The top players of Zobel are all juniors unless one is refering to the womens team. Besides, the Zobel boys will have a hard time beating out the SBC or AHS players in team B.

Ateneo does not have to recruit an athletic shooter. Jai Reyes will eventually play for ADMU. Ateneo has 3 tall, athletic player from the south playing for team B in 6' 4" Estoesta from Cebu,6' 0" Solitaria and 6' 2" Hipolito from Davao. Hipolito was one of the last cuts of coach Sandy this past season.

Out_of_the_Blue So you're saying that Ateneo is laying low for now huh? Do you think Ateneo will have a tough time on recruiting the Red Cubs since San Beda is hellbent on retaining the Cubs and La Salle already on the run for the prized Cub guards?

animo_red So the San Beda-Ateneo rivalry was purely basketball am I correct? Or is it because of other things as well?

BLUE HORSE I thought DLSU is hot on getting Martinez, Hermida and Victorino and not Menor? Hmmmm...some sort of strategy, perhaps?

i am 10 mos late for this,anyways here goes.

with the permission of the moderators and their fellow ateneans.

I am a Bedan batch 92 CAS.
Animo_Red i share your good intentions for whatever it may be when you Quote an article from the Manila Bulletin. But i guess we should have left it there at the newspaper, they probably knew it anyways. and i think it is too much pat on our back to post a compliment that was already given. A simple thank you could have said it all. Peace.
Also, i share ______'s concern about us, posting articles eq. ,La Salle's bits on Ateneo's "refusal" for the UAAP membership of San Beda. It has no point. they were even gracious enough to PUt The team on their thread. It would be very arrogant for us to imply something from the La Salle news bit. Let us appreciate the generosity of the author of this topic. Or much better, we should have asked or implied to them straigth up that they would refuse our application anyways if that is what we think. that would have been more respectful, rather than use their rival's misgivings to solicit a reaction. Again Peace.
About Bedans being NC'ish eq., chanting iskwater, figuring in brawls. Yes, this things happen. I am not proud of it. But it does happen. Most of Bedans, at least back when it was still exclusive, are from within Metro Manila. This tiny city that unselfishly offers the streets for recreation and everything else, from being street smart to a brutal survivor. We breath the street of manila and everything that comes with it every time 24/7. We adapted by necessity. everyone and i mean everyone will at times defend, impose and assert that tiny little space of comfort and pride. But does that make us Bedans uncontrollable at the games? No. and i know you know that. Its hard enough being at the midst of a multitude of alpha males trying to sniff each others scents, forging a pact and evading clashes trying to live our own little lives in the den. good thing, we are social cats. we know better. and the kids from the country and from the uptown, you could imagine how difficult for all of us to keep our tails between our legs and hide our paws for peace in the pride. We know how hard it is. But it happens. and i'm proud of it.
Us at the UAAp? Yes there are rewards at the uaap, same as tbe rewards in the ncaa. Beda has been anonymously silent by choice for the longest time. Guided by the strict traditional ways of the institution of being conservative. Now it is merely breaking out and allowing itself once again to reach out to newer realms of endeavors. the rivalry is but a bonus if ever, the goal is to compete again with the best schools in all it's sense. Academically,in athletics and in tradition. Yes, Uaap has its members the crops of the best schools. that is given. the athletics is just coincedental.
either way, ncaa or uaap, we have everything to gain.
thinking about it, it is enough already to make a stir and create anticipation among the schools about the idea. The mere talk about it would do. thanks. peace.

U.I.O.G.D.

Welcome to atenista.net, toti_mendiola, and thank you for bumping up this thread. We seem to have missed this when we were doing our reorganization. I'll be moving it to the "UAAP Sports" forum soon as it has more to do with UAAP in general than basketball in particular.

~5FootCarrot, moderator and Benedictine Child

THANK YOU.

just a noob here in Atenista.Net -- but been in the Ateneo for 18 years...

Ironically I have absolutely no idea what dl"RT" means...

Any answers??

it's pure clever wordplay, nothing else it came about after the observation that the stairs of the LRT vito cruz station lead directly to the main gate of DLSU. in turn, we are now also being called ADMRT when the purple line became operational.

i dont think san beda will transfer to uaap. but i believe their blue chip players will transfer to the uaap. like admu

^^ just wait and see. for now, we have to contend watching the uaap. but its ok to play for other UAAP teams since the school can never accommodate all the players. Christian Calaguio was my classmate in high school. but since during that time wala syang position for san beda since ato morano and boybits victoria were still the best guards during those times for san beda. He opted to play for letran. Id rather see him play for letran than wait for 1-2 yrs in team B to be given the opportunity. sila nunag, bravo, jomalesa will neve have a slot in SBC kasi time nila ralph rivera yun kaya malabo. You can get tenorio and ren ren ritualo for san beda but not all. Masyado na anak ng dyos ang san beda. Besides, ONCE A BEDAN ALWAYS A BEDAN. More importantly, we have to respect the stand of the monks on the issue of offers or rewards. I think they have the better wisdom on that matter.

most of the time, i just read the opinions in this fourm but i decided to join mow. hehehehe..... i really would like to answer all those questions why we should be included in the UAAP. but for now, i am too busy answering that. hehehehe....

goodluck sa Ateneo!

I LOVE SAN BEDA!

We will. Speak for yourself.

To Magnum,

Even if you're no longer with the REd and White you still showed humility and simplicity like a true Bedan. Good luck whichever path you take, remember the Beda boys still support you all the way. We got you first.

my hats off to san beda for producing not only good players but more so good persons. not only for ADMU benefitting for magnum and LA for valiantly leading the eagles this year, but for your player alumni in general - ford arao, JV casio, jon tabique, toti almeda - for playing the game the way it's supposed to be played, with a lot of heart and letting actions speak for themselves instead of mouthing off vs. opponents. Even our team b boys - yuri escueta, mike baldos among them i think - are the same way.

even the Bedan player alumni in coach e (where my son enrolled) are like that - xavy nunag, eric altimirano, ronnie magsanoc, benjie paras. Kung tutuusin mo, sila nga ang may karapatan magyabang, pero napaka humble at simple lang sila. even chito loyzaga, who plays in the Ateneo alumni leagues is cut the same way.

may koy banal rejuvinate your program the way he did FEU's

I also hope the San Beda Team will rise next year. Kaya yan siguro next year.

ANIMO SAN BEDA!

it's been a long time since i posted in this thread. nagkalokoloko ung pc ko kasi at nakalimutan ko ung user name ko. so ito na ung "comeback" ko sa thread na to.

As you all know, we at La Salle are furious with the way the UAAP Board has been biased against La Salle. It has been running for the longest time. I can also say that the rivalry between La Salle and Ateneo continues in the Board Room. So, most of the time, Ateneo votes against La Salle. Enough of this. The UAAP Board has shown it's incompetency by declaring a rematch between La Salle and UE when they can just answer if La Salle did made a violation or not. Right after hearing/reading about this b.s. i quickly posted in ap.com or ga.net that La Salle should pull out of the UAAP and create a new Inter-school League. I proposed that La Salle should invite Ateneo, San Beda, University of Manila, University of the Visayas and St. Francis of Assisi to join the league and invite some deserving schools to join. I believe that this proposition of mine would prosper and attract Tv Coverage and sponsors. The La Salle-Ateneo-San Beda battles would be classic every game because of the history they have. University of Manila have a impressive win-loss record in thier league. University of the Visayas showed that they can battle the Manila teams. St. Francis of course produced the De Ocampo brothers and continues to win games.

Now, since san beda is part of my proposition, what do the bedans think of this league? I believe that this will be a legit and exciting league.

If my proposition would become a reality and Ateneo decided to join, would San Beda still prefer to join the UAAP or this new league?

nagtatanong lang po. c",)

Wrong.

Look, don't pretend that you're privy to what goes on in the board room.

It's a known fact that so far this season, the Ateneo rep has been voting FOR La Salle.

Back in the 80s, it was an Ateneo rep who paved the way for La Salle's entry into the UAAP.

All these can be found if you do your research properly and bother to read the newspapers and not rely on hearsay.

simulation green, please be reminded that this thread is about San Beda's possible transfer to the UAAP (even though this has sort of become the "Beda thread" of the forums and we seem to have digressed into discussions about Bedan players in the UAAP).

I suggest you try to present your proposition through the proper channels, not here in the forums.

5FootCarrot, my post is related on the threads topic. It may not directly talk about the possibilty of transfer but my post gave the bedans a choice, UAAP or a new league? Maybe i should have inject more details to completely relate my post to the thread's topic. I am sorry for this error.

atenean_blooded, i stated in my post "most of the time". I did not wrote "always". Maybe from time to time, Ateneo votes in La Salle's favor. For that I thank Ateneo. By the way, I read the broadsheets and from what I read in there is that, again, "most of the time" Ateneo votes against La Salle. This has been my observation for the past few years.

a survey has already been conducted among bedans whether to join the UAAP or this new super-league being mulled, and the overwhelming response is to go for the UAAP. the high school campus will be transferred to taytay, rizal, and they continue to fulfill and comply with the requirements for university accreditation. according to one bedan friend, they will not rush their petition for accreditation only to join an untested league.

Actually there's no need for a survey to know if we want to transfer. It's quite obvious already. Anyway, the Taytay campus is already open and functioning. This year will be the last year of the high school department in Mendiola sad to say.

The Alabang campus has been officially been named San Beda Alabang already, I dunno what's the role of Alabang in attaining University status but I think that school too will be crucial for San Beda as a whole.

simulation green:

Regarding the perceived bias of UAAP Board against La Salle: Maybe you may consider that La Salle also has a perceived bias against the UAAP Board in general and Joe Lipa in particular. Maybe you can dig in a little bit and find out the roots of this apparent animosity. Who knows, you may find some gambling issues as well as issues of integrity foisted by Lipa against some people. Then you maycome across anecdotes of near fistfights. Good luck.

Regarding perceived voting of Ateneo: My own perception is that Ateneo has, more often than not, voted in favor of La Salle.

Regarding a League With La Salle and Ateneo and San Beda:

My own opinion is parang hilaw. Medyo commercialized na masyado La Salle. The best commercial educational institution with probably the best marketing approach. Parang Mom and Pop with frachises all over. Trimester pa. Mas bagay siguro a league with La Salle, STI, AMA, etc. Madaming branches at mabilis ang graduates. Magaganda pa facilities.

I wonder, di ba korporasyon na kayo? Are the Brothers still running things in the De La Salle System or are they left to La Salle Greenhills?

On richness of tradition: I understand even your cheering was taught by a group of Ateneans. The deepest cheering tradition, of course, is arguably San Beda and Ateneo. The pre war (short lived) rivals were really UP and Ateneo. Then it was San Beda and Ateneo. Letran ang original rival ng La Salle.

Oh well, opinion ko lang naman po in response to your post.

Welcome back to atenista.net!

I don't know why but I want San Beda to transfer talaga to UAAP. By then, we will have 3 rivals na. Namely La Salle, our neighbor and San Beda.

I don't know why Bedans are also close to me. I have to trace my roots talaga if I have a Bedan blood.

Hey why not? I miss those little red indians with that one big fat indian dancing in the middle..."Beda, Beda, Beda, Beda, fight, fight, fight, fight, eya inkonkawa..." or something like that.

And while we're at it, I kinda miss the "Arriba Letran" cheer too.

You have lots of Bedan friends?

^^It's, "Hey-U Kim Kum Ka wa" I don't memorize the whole cheer myself. Not really fond in watching NC games but everytime I hear the Indian Yell, it gives me goosebumps.