Wasn't Chito Loyzaga a Blue Eaglet before being a Red Lion? I have always thought that Chito played highschool ball for Ateneo.

chito and joey loyzaga went to san beda after graduating in ateneo grade school.

Thanks gas.

The Guzman twins originally wanted to suit up for Loyola after playing high school ball in Iloilo. Unfortunately, the ACET stood in their way. A decade later, a younger brother briefly played for the senior squad. This was around the time of Jolas and Chot Reyes. Coach Black should be familiar with those twins. The twins ran a hot rod shop after their PBA days in the mid-80s, which serviced the high octane needs of clients that included a PBA "who's who" list that included Coach Black.

Another colorful character from that 77 San Beda team was Abe King. Boy, was he something else. He was Charles Barkley even before Sir Charles became Sir Charles. No wonder he was one of Jawo's storm troopers.

The nice thing about those Loyzaga boys is that they remain close to their Grade School roots decades after moving to Mendiola. Chito plays in the ABL and I think does charity work for Fr. Reuter's Caritas. Joey was a classmate of mine in the AGS. Fifteen years later a couple of friends of mine and I were in a bar in the Greenhills area. Joey was in the same place but was standing at the other side of the room. When he saw us he yelled out "Classmates!". Apparently he had forgotten our names but he still came over and made small talk. We parted ways when his then movie personality-girlfriend emerged from the powder room and they had to leave. Nice of him to go out of his way considering this was during the peak of his pro career.

personal reminiscence: i used to ride the same goco school bus with joey loyzaga when he was already in 7th grade. because i live near ateneo, i was among the last to be picked up by the bus and also among the first to be driven home. owing to that circumstance, we hardly had any interaction except when he would time to time razz us young kids, although good-naturedly.

i remember one friday afternoon when the driver thought i wasn't on the bus as he was motoring out the campus, so instead of being the third kid off, i had a grand tour of all the stately homes of ateneo grade school students by accident. i had a blast because the ride was pleasurable (remember this was in the mid 70s, and traffic wasn't a problem at all) and i got to go to scenic places in the east side of metro manila for the first time. and that's when i saw where the loyzagas lived: at a grand house in rural antipolo up and down country roads. all i can say at the time to him was: "ang layo niyo pala sa ateneo." he just smiled.

A sad day in Mendiola...

What a heartbreaker! Oks lang yan Animo_Red you did not expect to go this far but you overachieved.

Arjun is San beda's chris tiu

IT WAS A DARN GOOD FIGHT!!!

ANIMO SAN BEDA!

...and btw i don'think a non blue-blooded guy bashing la salle means trying to please the Ateneo... hell you don't need to be an atenean to bash la salle. hehehe sorry just wanted that ouT..

im a Bedan as much as i am an Atenean! Best of Both Worlds!!!

It's ok even if we lost. I was surprised that the people sang the Bedan Hymn even, a few years ago, it was so unthinkable, we bowed down with grace.

See ya sa Bantay Bata games!!!!! I'm still smiling since we will be facing a helluva better opponent there. Good luck with your tourney!!!!!

Agree. You can actually be a La Sallite and still bash La Salle!

Maverick, please check your PM in bedista.com... everyone's in mourning over there. hehehe

animo_red,

sayang talaga! was watching your game on television.Was really hoping that San Beda will win. Sayang talaga! there is always next year for you guys!

Animo San Beda!

w/ just one more basket.. we cud have continued our crusade.. but kuya animo_red, they wer sayin that there's a battle 4 3rd match to watch? pls inform me bout this.. ty

Calvin,
Yeah i think we are going to fight for 3rd place. I just dunno when.

blue_reaction,
yeah i know it sucks hehehe but surprisingly I still managed to smile. i don't want to hang around in our message board because people there are just so freakin depressed, i'll leave them be for a while I accepted the loss with grace, ok lang I mean... hello, no one really watches that league anyway. Let's just leave them with their 5 min of fame.

The reason why i still manage to be happy, is I am surprised with the outpouring of support by the Bedan community, finally we have learned to bow down with grace and dignity. We were not like this a few years back. So this is a win in itself. We are indeed suited for better things, and it's not in the NCAA. We will strive for that.

I like this one. hehehe

"every great achievement in life was once considered impossible."

I did not watch the game live, but i saw on TV that kamuntik magkaroon ng rumble. Which added more reason why we need to leave the league, hooliganism.

Another note,
my friends who watched the game today said that the "other" side were holding really big posters, posters containing insults like, "oo university kami, kayo COLLEGE! walang progress!" and take note, these were really big na feeling namin pinaggastusan ng said school, I mean would students bother make those stuff? Carefully painted in cloths at malinis ang pagkakagawa? With wooden sticks to hold them up even.

Believable, I bet you would never see that in the UAAP.

Animo Red,

Nash Racela just proved that he was the right coach for the team. Kinapos lang talaga sa materyales. Next year, the team should be better if the red cubs do stay at home. It will mean a deeper bench. Kaso the guards may not stay at home as Hermida, Martinez and Victorino are being scouted heavily by UAAP teams other than Ateneo.

Sad that this is the last year of Arjun Cordero. He at least leaves knowing he played in a final 4 game for SBC.

animo red,

how does your school feel about transferring to the UAAP? what % of your school is in favor of this move? do you think entry into the UAAP will stop the bleeding i.e. the migration of cubs to other universities?

just curious

What's the overall feel of us going to the UAAP? Well I've noticed that a lot of Bedans are open to the thought already- from the alumni, admin to the students- i would say 90%.

Our culture is as unique and colorful as Ateneo and La Salle, that it's better to be shared to a much bigger audience.

We feel we are better off to move out of our current league. I cannot accurately answer if it will stop our REd Cubs from transferring, but I think it's a huge possibility. Like the previous posts have said, if we are in the UAAP, you can't imagine the REAL pouring of support our alumni and students will give out, right now it's not that much... heck is there really an impact competing with "never been heard" schools like PCU, JRU or Perpetual etc?

Our Cubs transferring to the UAAP is a sign, a sign for us to follow them.

No, our competitors here just resort to their usual "Tuition fee nyo, baon namin!" style...

I watch more UAAP games than NC, and I hardly even hear the, "tuition fee" jeer. It's a whole lot more peaceful here.

AR, it was part of the exchange between UST and DLSU in the 90s. The La Salle side arrogantly but stupidly flashed that during one of their heated games.

To USTs credit and as testament to a measure of Thomasian wit, they countered with "Exams nyo, quiz lang namin." This, I believe, hurt the La Sallians more than the "tuition" remark insulted the Thomasians.

But still it's a whole lot subtle compared to the signs my friends saw yesterday. Though when my friend from DLSU tagged me along during their FEU DLSU Championship back in 1997, we saw a sign from the greenies, "LET'S TALK ABOUT JOB APPLICATIONS NALANG."

To rebut yesterday's signs, my schoolmates made impromptu signs like, "Libagin" and "Driver ko Alumnus niyo." hehehe But were taken down by the monks.

Because you will never know what they say about us when they are on the other forum. Its plain and simple.

ei kuya animo_red,

they say that there's no coming battle for 3rd match.. we're alredy in 3rd place as we had a greater lead in the quotient against letran. but i think it wud be more fun to play for 3rd rather than get it w/o a fight. and of corse, wat wud the letranites tell us agen, dat we were just gracious losers? hay.. we wer dat close from bringin the crown back to mendiola!

go san beda fight! 3x.. ready! 1! 2! 3!

Animo San Beda!

Coach Nash texted last night sayang maybe not God's plan yet. I congratulated him for a great season.

Then I saw some of the players like Bombeo chilling at GB3 after dinner.

AR,

glad to hear beda is so much different now than in the 70's. badtrip talaga mga pinsan ko sa inyo dahil sa mga rumbles. i hope you'll be afforded the University accreditation soon. here's looking forward to renewed rivalry.

mike jarin a.k.a jamike (ako nagbigay ng pangalan niya) is from beda. don't know kung hanggang HS. when i was coaching him during our little baranggay summer leagues i remember the kid adoring ato for his leadership. jamike stood tall, the proud little beda. dala na niya hanggang sa pag-coach sa eaglets.

of the proud 1999 red cubs champion team, only magnum and LA of Ateneo are still playing.

exhausting their college eligibility are cordero, bombeo and gandarosa of adamson.

still eligible to come back next season are magnum, LA and penson of UP (who, incidentally was also part of the 97 rico-wes blue eaglet champion team).

tama ba?

was lino tabique part of that team also? he would have only been a high school sophomore then. sana makalaro uli yung batang yun.

The news from UP is that Tabique is still under treatment, but has started to practice with Team B. Penson is still recovering from an injury and played less than five minutes this whole Season '67.

Beda has really been prime hunting ground for UP and Ateneo. But I heard that Beda has wised up and will reportedly be elevating its juniors to the seniors' level to stop other schools/universities from poaching their boys. Is this true? Can anyone confirm this?

The San Beda now is no longer the San Beda your cousin's knew back in the 70's.

Marooned in Blue,

The rumor mill is a buzz about the future of the red cub players. Suffice it to say that none of them may be headed Ateneo's way because of the UAAP requirements that will be enforced next year. A school can only have 14 players on varsity and all can play. Since Ateneo has only 3 players who will use up their eligibility, it then leaves only 1 sure opening. Membrere is rumored to be coming back to the team to be the captain together with LA. Add to this the larger number of team B players waiting in the wings. If there is a player Ateneo should be recruiting among the red cubs it would be Martinez, a pure shooter who can go strong on either side.

The SBC administration is suppose to have made a commitment to Nash Racela that they would do as much as they can to keep their "hugot" players. Best bet to remain are Taganas and Menor but schools like UP and UST may go after them. Should they play in the UAAP, they will have to play a different position. To small to be playing center or power forward in the UAAP college division. The guards are getting the once over by the recruiters. LaSalle would love to sign 2 of their guards, a pg and a sg. Yung matirang guard sa UP na lang daw! Heh heh heh .

This are all rumors with some leg to it. If SBC wants to win a championship, they must try to keep their players. Will they keep all of them at home? Probably not, coach Badolato will not prevent them from exploring better opportunities in other schools.

One of the main measures to prevent Red Cubs migration is joining the UAAP. Definitely, UAAP membership would seal the lid somewhat on Bedan HS going to UAAP schools.

I suppose the fact that the SBC Red Lions got ousted from the NCAA finals this season will force the SBC administration to re-evaluate a lot of things about its basketball program. No doubt, SBC has an excellent HS basketball program, but if it keeps losing its players to other schools, its championship hopes will keep getting dimmer and dimmer. AnimoAteneo92 is right. Joining the UAAP just might stop the exodus of Red Cubs to other schools.

The NCAA isn't really a league that promotes good sportsmanship and camaraderie. There's no such thing as respect there.

actually, the SBC basketball program has been under review for some time now. why else do you think they got a new practice facility to help their players? that's just one step in the direction they hope to take.

time was, San Beda got a lot of their high school players, but when other schools started recruiting heavily from the south, they felt that they needed to get bigger players to compete sa NCAA. they've had some pretty good players over the years like Victoria and De Joya to compete for a title, but to no avail. so now, they've been trying to mix their Red Cubs with the southern recruits. SBC would love nothing more than to keep their HS line-ups, but mind you, not all. lots of factors here, such height, position and potential recruits. even if a program were in place, some Cubs will not or might not want to stay in San Beda. if you had a chance to start for another team, wouldn't you want to there? if you had an oportunity to go to a high-profile program, will you not want to avail of that? SBC, if they do enter the League (c'mon, there's only one, right?), will bolster their chances of keeping their HS players within the system, but not neccessarily so. but let me be clear on that, they do stand a better chance of retaining their Cubs.

if you look at the UAAP schools, how many other teams field line-ups that have players from their HS? Not too many save for Ateneo, UST, Adamson.

but a word of caution, UP has taken notice of the implications of losing their Bedan recruits. so they've been developing their HS system. in a few years time, they could be another hotbed of collegiate talent. they've been tapping and scouting the undiscovered backlots of Marikina, QC, and the Antipolo area.

why do i say this? there's a San Beda being put up (or is it up already) somewhere in the Antipolo area. kids today, with their parents keeping an eye on their pro stock worth, will may not neccessarily want to place their kids there with a hoops career in mind. there can't be two San Beda competing in one league. the type of player that UPIS is trying to recruit is of the same strata/background as those who go to SBC Mendiola and LSGH. remember, they've tapped into the same "market."

^ San Beda Taytay is already up and running, the original HS Dept in Mendiola has only two years left before it completely gets phased out (ouch). Since i live in the south I really dunno where that campus is located actually.

wat i know is its near club manila east in taytay.. going to antipolo or binangonan i think..

BK,

Even when Ateneo and LaSalle were still in the NCAA, SBC was a breeding ground for LaSalle recruits. Ateneo did recruit the Rius brothers in the mid 60's but Ateneo relied more on their home grown talents. I do not know if Ateneo tried to bring back the Loyzaga brothers after they transfered to SBC.

UP has instituted a VAAS program for their high school. Since UPIS can not rely on a steady stream of good players from their grade school, former UPIS team captain JP Paz worked with the administration, alumni and coaching staff to bring in players from other schools. Jacob Manlapaz was the first big time "hugot" from another school. UPIS has recruited 2-3 players from AGS and I heard they offered a AHS freshman a scholarship when he graduated from grade 7 to play right away for UPIS. Nothing wrong with their plan, you make do with what will keep the school competitive.

It is not only UPIS who stepped up their high school recruiting. LSGH recruiting net goes as far as Yugoslavia and as close as Xavier and Lourdes. Ateneo is doing the same thing but not to the same scale as other school because AHS has a ready pipeline courtesy of AGS. Heh heh heh ... ., ask the other die hard supporters of team B for some recruiting war stories.

To the guys from Katipunan,
Mendiola feels your loss

Menor and Taganas are said to play for the RED LIONS next year although this is just a rumor but one thing's for sure, the Nash Racela-mentored squad will do everything to cut the lines from Mendiola to other places like Katipunan, Taft and Diliman just to see the RED CUBS grow as RED LIONS.

however, from a reliable source, Martinez is said to have been chased by La Salle because of what he can do for the Green and White. If Ateneo would go after Martinez, putting him in the Team B would be a better option because of the bulk of guards the Blue and White squad has in their Team A, more so in their Team B, which has quality players in all positions.

above all these, I'm one of the many Bedans who want not only the top prized Cubs to stay but all of them in the Lions' Den

Did anyone here saw JV Casio embrace Yuri Escueta (#4 Ateneo) after the game?

I really hope to see San Beda in the UAAP para may panibago akong tito na aasarin at mang aasar sa akin. hehehe. Pero seriously, San Beda has provided quality players. From my alma mater, it was Renren who may have done the biggest impact. The best player I have seen Although Lim Eng Beng is being regarded as the best green archer ever I still believe that Ritualo is on the Same level of Lim Eng Beng. Such player as Ritualo is a big lost to the Red Lions. This team has lost a lot of key players from the Red Cubs that they could have put together and buid their own dynasty in the NCAA. For me, it is a big frustration.

I envy the Red Cubs because of the quality their team has. That kind of Quality lured away Tenerio from my HS alma mater. I dont blame him though because the basketball program in DBTI-Makati is very poor.

Now, I'm in Lasalle. I envy now Ateneo because they have a solid basketball program. Somehow the recruiting of players for Ateneo is easy because the players they have in the Seniors will definitely include quality players from their juniors. La Salle definitely rely on heavy recruiting from other schools. As far as I know is that only Mike Gavino in the current line-up came from a De La Salle System School. That means that Lasalle lost a lot of money with the recruitment.

Fortunately, I heard that Lasalle will strenghten its grass-roots team. Maybe in the near future the Green Archers will be composed of true green blood players.

It would be nice to see teams compete against each other in the UAAP with players in their line-up came from their own high school.

San Beda would be envied if this happens

Peace Out!

Animo Lasalle!

Simulation Green,

I have no reason to doubt you are a true La Sallian. Your posted sentiments demonstrate your roots and genuine affinity for your school. May all our battles remain solely in the field of athletic competition.

One Big Fight!

The quality of ball games the UAAP is giving to its audience will certainly increase when San Beda transfers from the NCAA. With that, Studio 23 will definitely extend the contract of televising UAAP games. We can all just imagine the crowd making the Araneta Coliseum rock in two hours when San Beda meets Ateneo and La Salle.

Thanks!

I just hope that this battle between Ateneo and Lasalle stays on atheltic competition only.

I just hate it when some Ateneans look down on Lasallian just for the fact they are from lasalle and not of what these persons are and i think this happens to Ateneans too. I just hope when i graduate in a few months time I would not encounter such experience. I dont looked down on Ateneans (except during UAAP hehehe) because there is no doubt that the school produces quality graduates. I guess all this bashing will stop if both sides would rather shut-up and let their work speak up for who's better. Although one's achievement is not the reflection of all it's still fun to take pride on them.

Peace Out!

Animo Lasalle

^ though I noticed the crowd of La Salle isn't that solid compared to Ateneo's- when it comes to cheering i mean.