why would you want us to remain there? Sorry but majority of the Ateneans who post here feels the same way and want us to transfer.

Pwede po bang malaman kung bakit ayaw nyo lumipat ang San Beda?

animo red, kaya nga opinion ko eh. if the other ateneans are in favor of beda moving then that's theirs, capish?

kindly state your reason why? I sense some bitterness...

bitterness? no. in the scheme of things, it's best that San Beda remain in the NCAA. iwan na natin dyan. while students may be enamored about reviving an old rivalry, some schools are not.

as you say so

and those schools are? and why not?

And I'm sure San Beda isn't transferring just to "revive old rivalries." One reason maybe to prevent (or at least lessen the number of) Cubs who transfer to La Salle and Ateneo.

BK and animo red,

Glad to see the two of you have met. However, let me not be remiss in my manners and do the formal introductions:

Animo red, meet Bleachers King -- ASSOC Founder, soldier of Ignacio de Loyola, Blue and White Fanatic, keeper of Ateneo lore, Loyola Center and Cov Courts denizen, all-around great guy and the kind of person you wouldn't mind being stuck with on a long plane ride.

BK, meet animo red -- son of Mendiola, avid old-school traditionalist and NCAA hater who, I hope, will return all the goodwill and fellowship being shown to him on these Blue and White fora by supporting the Ateneo against UP, La Salle and all other schools in the UAAP.

As BK said, these are free expression fora where there is no pressure to conform. However, in case you decide to express an unpopular opinion, be prepared to defend your ideas without resorting to ad hominems. The free fire zone was a hallmark of the Ateneo classroom and we try to keep that characteristic in this forum. At the end of the day, it's not the position that's important but the way you marshall your arguments in defense of that opinion.

Regards to you both, and my two cents worth on this is still the same -- I would rather see lions in the UAAP rather than falcons or bulldogs. Let the discussions begin.

Hi Mav,

We are all generally hospitable over here, right? Glad to see a number our Bedan friends have been visiting of late.

Unfortunately, we just lost a freakin' game that took the wind out of our sails somewhat. In other words, no offense intended. I hope no offense was taken as well.

Good luck to the Beda boys in their own Final Four struggle!

Ateneoooo!!!
One Big Fight!!!

animo red, bakit walang cup si St. Benedict doon sa facade ng St. Benedict's Hall sa San Beda? I know that he's usually depicted with a raven and a cup.

Ah, well, baka sa Benedictine medal lang yon required.

Great discussion. I have questions and I hope the experts will answer.

1. What would San Beda bring to the UAAP that the UAAP does not already have?

2. I read in other websites that the current 8 member UAAP is already ideal. Is this really so? Is there a ban or a moratorium currently in place in the UAAP on accepting new members?

3. Hey I am in favor of UAAP expansion (2 more teams I think) but realistically speaking, when do you think will we see San Beda (or other new schools) in the UAAP? Or is this really not possible?

4. How do you become a member of the UAAP? Is there a website or other materials we can refer to regarding this matter?

Thanks in advance.

Any interested schools will have to go proper channels and the UAAP board eventually votes on it.

The board finds it easy to schedule the basketball games because eight is the perfect number. Going to 12 is the next progression but that will mean a longer season or the UAAP will have to increase their playing dates from 3 days a week to 4. If it goes to 12, that may be the death knell for the NCAA because ABS-CBN may not want to televise a league that has very low ratings should 2 or more current NCAA teams move to the UAAP.

The next question is which school will move from the NCAA to the UAAP? Ok, SBC is one. I do not the other UAAP schools will agree to accept Benilde given that the school is the step child of LaSalle. Other schools will question Letran being another Dominican school to go with UST.

Yup.... STAY IN THE NCAA......

Nothing personal but I am not a fanatic of reviving anything that is related to San Beda COLLEGE.

maybe it is right that San Beda is just wasting time in the NCAA (duh! no offense meant but schools there are pathetic!)

i respect the other Ateneans' opinion that San Beda should just stay in the NCAA

what school do you think will vote against San Beda? hmmm...UST perhaps?

^ And Ateneo. ( I guess )

Well, now that some have picked up on why hindi dapat, it's like this...

San Beda joining the UAAP is cool for sentimental reasons. Who wouldn't want to revive a rivalry? For today's students, it sounds ok. But for those who've been around, it's not. San Beda is one of the reasons why the Ateneo fled the NCAA. But again, that's just the emotional side of the arguement.

If you have Beda joining the UAAP, the focus will be on the three schools. UST which is already mightily peeved at ADMU (for too many reasons) will not take this standing down. As will the other schools (if you think NU is happy at being the perrenial cellar dweller, you think they'd be even more happy at being No. 9? You have another thought coming!). Remember the rumours about bolting the league and forming a new one last year? There is a lot of truth to that despite whatever denials you may hear. Even if they wanted, who the hell wants to watch the UST Tigers on TV; not too many people. The thing is, the other schools need ADMU & DLSU even if there is no love lost. The spotlight has fallen on ADMU & DLSU; moreso when ADMU's basketball program rose out of the doldrums. The UAAP is doing fine without San Beda. San Beda needs the UAAP, not the other way around. San Beda in the UAAP will bolster its basketball program. San Beda inclusion will be sufficient justification for their alumni to spend more money on their programs. It will also make the arms race a little more tighter in terms of recruitment.

And because of the high profile UAAP, players would rather play there than the NCAA coz its better chances of bolstering their pro stock.

As for the other schools, they will not neccessarily want to share the revenue or spotlight.

another reason... if you have San Beda join the UAAP, it will seriously curb the recruiting program of many schools. This being ADMU, DLSU and UP among others. Yes, UP, a lot of Red Cubs have been going there for time immemoriam. So, if you lose this breeding ground of talent, where will you look to? PCU? PHCR? Ang takbo nito ay sa south and to the great white north.

Some see the addtion of Nash Racela to the San Beda program (despite his clearcut creds) as a form of appeasement to ADMU. Well, hindi natin alam if that will have any effect. But IMHO, no. Racela is there coz he's a damn fine coach.

If San Beda leaves the NCAA, that's like signing the death warrant of the league most especially sa TV ratings. As it is, the only NCAA school that consistently sends its players to the pros is San Sebastian, it's not in the best interests of the league for Baste to rule year in and out.

Ultimately, its more than just a game. It's a business and a big one at that. The UAAP and it marketing savvy has changed the landscape of sports so much so that the pro league has followed its formula for success. Now why would they want to share it with a school that has a very good chance of reaping the success of the coño schools like ADMU & DLSU?

But you'll never know. The big-ups just might find it in their heart to share. and that might be the biggest surprise of them all.

I think if San Beda really wants to bolt out of the NCAA, they have one very powerful ally... ABS-CBN. It can make a case to the media giant that they are as viable a product as Ateneo and La Salle. They can even pitch to the powers that be that they can produce the same fan base and alumni loyalty as these two schools. ABS-CBN, seeing the financial potential of it all, might just as well pitch it to the UAAP since if this happens, they will just be maintaining one league instead of two.

Two years later after San Beda gets accepted, Letran will start knocking real loud on UAAP doors.

I don't think Letran will ever be a university, the Dominicans have UST already. Besides, their proximity to each other is quite near, it won't look good for them to be competing.

I just saw this post in some thread and it's an interesting read.

what a hypocrite! don't believe a word he says, animo red. he's full of cow dung!

^I know it was a La Sallista who wrote this, but I just found it as an interesting read. Though I'm not taking sides on this.

looks like it was written by a greenarcher.net regular....

Animo red, I believe you to be a sensible person with enough gray matter between your ears.

Just one question, given the evident bias in this post, why even quote this in an Atenean site?

No offense intended, AR.

cager, animo red just wants to hear our opinions or reactions lang siguro. ok yan si animo red. magpapa-inom pa yan.

wonderboy, saw AR's reply a little bit late.

AR, here's to both our teams!

Go San Beda Fight!

Go Ateneo! One Big Fight!

1. What would San Beda bring to the UAAP that the UAAP does not already have?

I will try to answer this, the best way I can.

What can we bring to the UAAP that the UAAP doesn't have? Well, more glamour and added revenue I guess. I mean SAn Beda could bring a lot of drawing power that schools like FEU, Adamson, UE and NU could only dream of. I mean are people interested watching those teams? Well maybe with FEU, but only when they're facing you guys and DLSU, and might include UP as well. This would be more beneficial for both UAAP and ABS.

And I've noticed that Bedans are more passionate with their school compared to the La Sallians with theirs, you might say the same kind of passion as you guys with Ateneo- so more emotional drama. It's rather obvious when you two guys face, your crowd and shouts are solid, while the greenside doesn't even come near to that.

No offense taken.

Here is my take.

San Beda's entry into the UAAP marks the resurrection of the triad rivalry. In the old days, San Beda was a certified heckler known for many Ateneo jeers. (No need to name all of them)

Inclusion into the UAAP means attrition of Red Cubs stalwarts. Had San Beda been in the UAAP, I highly doubt if Tenorio, Casio, Membrere and others would switch sides. It was easier for these players to move due its separate home league.

UAAP is also a league afraid of risk, especially safety issues due to discipline. Including San Beda in the UAAP team roster will surely make this safety issue surface again. UST, FEU, UE and NU will not take San Beda's entry smoothly and therefore making a majority vote very unlikely. This is not to mention that San Beda was the MAIN reason why the Ateneo bolted out of the NCAA.

Sorry for the term but I agree with BK that the UAAP does not need San Beda but rather San Beda needs the UAAP to swing the school back to limelight. Short of stating that it is a move bordering on "social climbing".

Stay in the NCAA. That league is where you belong.

Honestly, I do not welcome La Salle jeers in the Ateneo forum unless it comes from someone who lives and die bleeding Blue and White. Other school bashing La Salle here is seeking acceptance. Sorry, but I do not buy that.

I don't think the younger generation of Bedans would resolve to hoolaganism. In the NCAA we're the only school, aside from CSB that doesn't engage in brawls- both players and students. This is today, times has changed.

Social climbing as you say? Then we know when we are not wanted here anymore. Goodluck with your tourney.

Though I applaud the Ateneans here who have welcomed us with open arms inspite of our differences. You are truly men for others.

cant believe you guys acused us of "socail climbing" or we were just tryin to fit in.

we had our own identity.
we dont need to be "conos" as we speak.
we are BEDANS,
we're true to ourselves.
we never spoke-ill about you.
but not because we had nothin to say about you..

oh, yes. we were not expecting that you would do the same for we were ONLY BEDANS.

note: please refrain from calling SAN BEDA as BEDA only. its demoralizing the institution. you were already down-grading our identity. and let me remind you of what BEDANS truly were, we are not into brawls or fistfights. we are even more afraid of our own security.

have you watched San Beda games, did you observe what we do after games.
if we lose, the winning team sings their alma mater hymn 1st. what do we do? we listen atentively and we show RESPECT. we dont shout nor make noises. it wouldnt make any changes if we would turn violent.

things change.

we internalize the BENEDICTINE VALUES and we still keep it..

San Beda doesnt need UAAP.

San Beda engineered great men, not ball players...

we dont brag anything about us except our success. yes, maybe not in basketball. but who cares. basketball wont feed you in long term. our knowledge does.

UAAP is all yours. we dont need it to bring back the glory of the MIGHTY RED SCHOOL.

we dont need to "fit in" with you guys, the MIGHTY BLUE EAGLES..

basketball isn't everything..

OLD-SCHOOL SAN BEDA ROCKS!
ANIMO SAN BEDA!

Great arguments have been offered by BK and others on the non-inclusion of the Lions in the UAAP. Though each argument is well thought out and would indeed justify the exclusion of San Beda in the UAAP, here's a few of my thoughts:

1) On the violence - It's a fact that we moved out of the NCAA ultimately because of the rumbles with the Beda boys. However, if we use this argument, then we also should have moved for the exclusion of La Salle when we had a chance. If we count them all up, our school's history is just as littered with skirmishes with the Greenhills and Taft boys as much as the Mendiola boys. However, that did not stop Ateneo from approving La Salle's inclusion in the UAAP. Sure the Jesuits imposed conditions on La Salle's membership, but, ultimately, they voted for inclusion. If the Jesuits were so minded, they may impose conditions to curb the incidence of violence. However, that should not change the ultimate vote.

The violent incidents with SBC alluded to happened almost thirty years ago and I am optimistic enough to hope that times and temperaments have changed. As pointed out, aside from an on-court skirmish a few years back where they turned out to be the aggrieved party, SBC has not had a reputation for rumblers. The years and the advent of co-education have cooled down the flames. One only has to observe an Ateneo-La Salle game to conclude that the present generation has become a more peaceful sort. Clapping during the singing of alma mater songs, party-like atmospheres and games where you could bring your kid sister to were unheard of in Ateneo-La Salle matches in the seventies. This will probably be the route we will drive down if ever the Ateneo-SBC rivalry is resumed.

2) On the drying up of the Red Cub pipeline - No one will dispute that the Red Cub system has produced some of the better basketball players playing for Ateneo today. The argument goes that if San Beda joins the UAAP, then Cubs would grow into Lions and the pipeline from Mendiola to Loyola would be cut. This assumes that Cubs would want to be Lions automatically.If you think about it, this is not necessarily so. By joining the UAAP, San Beda's handlers would just have another argument to use in convincing their juniors to progress to San Beda's college department. However, recruiting is not an exact science and this alone (UAAP membeship) will not prevent the Cubs from migrating somewhere else. There are myriad reasons a person can use to transfer schools -- better athletic opportunities, academic advancement, change of environment, etc. The athletic history of Ateneo and La Salle is littered with examples of students switching sides from high school to college (let's not get into side arguments on this). If anything, this development adds an element of competition into the mix. We would be forced to be more efficient in our use of our resources and upgrade our existing athletic program (and recruitment efforts) in order to snare so-called prized recruits from Ato Badolato's stables.

On a more selfish note, by adding SBC as a possible college destination to the Cubs, just as it may tend to dry up the pipeline to Ateneo, it would also cut in other ways and dry up the pipeline to our other rivals in the UAAP. This development may actually be more of a concern to those other schools because unlike Ateneo, they don't have the benefit of having a superior grade school and high school basketball program. They would then be forced to compete on their own terms, which, in the end, they would lose.

3) On television revenue - The inclusion of SBC in the UAAP would actually make it more sellable to the TV networks. Finally, all the glamor schools of the old NCAA and all the major universities in the country are in one league. Advertising money is all about reaching a particular class of consumer with huge disposable income. As far as marketing the league is concerned, it would be an advertisers' wet dream. Not only do you attract a huge student fan base, you also tap into their die-hard alumni. So, on a purely pesos and centavos analysis, including SBC in the UAAP would make good business sense.

Because of this, the NCAA will resist it. When SBC leaves, the NCAA would probably be grouped along with the rest of the alphabet soup of leagues that come up every year. As far as I am concerned, the NCAA died in 1977 and it's just being waked too long. Get on with the funeral and bury the darn thing. Symptomatic of the NCAA's dire straits is the fact that they keep pointing out that it's the oldest league, trying to equate oldest with the best. They even had this strange ceremony years back about the glory days of the NCAA by trotting out their old stars composed of ex-Ateneans and La Sallites, conveniently forgetting that none of these schools are in the NCAA.

And UST, well, the Dominicans have always been the right wing of the Church and have a very strange attitude towards change of any sort. I think if we had it their way, we'd still be speaking Spanish and going on Crusades. Anyway, they're always miffed at the Ateneo for stealing their thunder. Never forgave us for making Rizal love the Ateneo (so his UST days suffered in comparison) and will probably always complain about our notoriety in the UAAP. Face it, UST is still miffed about its loss of standing in the world. It will always rub in our faces that it is the oldest school -- facetiously claiming that it's even older than Harvard (Note to Dominicans: Ever heard of a historical accident? There were no settlers in New England before 1632!) -- and argues about its own hoariness in the same manner as the NCAA. See the parallel?

Just my two cents on the matter. I will always have a soft spot for good schools jumping ship from the NCAA to the UAAP. We were in the same situation 27 years ago, and I can only be sympathetic to their plight.

Guys,

Let's put a lid on this social climbing comment. It's pretty unwarranted. Let's argue the points and the ideas. No need to have extra remarks that will turn this into a heated and pointless discussion. There's been a good rapport between students and alumni of both schools (which is refreshing, for a change, since I've seen too many discussions with students from other schools turn into mush) and let's keep it that way.

ATENEO!
ONE BIG FIGHT!

Dude, easy on your words. Bedans NEVER try to climb whatever social ladder there is. We know where we stand, and that's where we stay. Even if I'm in Ateneo right now, I still bleed red and white. If you're the epitome of an average Atenean, then I guess I could never be an Atenean. Not now, not even in my next life. Because I know for sure that there's something between my ears other than hot air.

Thanks Maverick for the warm welcome. I hope more Ateneans can be like you.

TryCatch,

Thanks. Like I said, let's put a lid on this and move on.

Just a note on the cono remark. It amuses this old-timer no end that the present generation of college students has equated the word cono with sosyal. In my time, cono kids referred to people of Spanish descent. You had to be totally tisoy in order to be a cono kid. No matter how sosyal you got, if you didn't have Spanish or caucasian blood in you, you were never referred to as cono.

By that score, in a previous generation, the original tisoy and therefore cono schools were De La Salle and San Beda. Ateneo, in fact, was known as the school of "los indios bravos," perhaps because of the Rizal connection. La Salle had a disproportionate number of tisoys because of all the tisoys living in the Malate area while San Beda had a lion's share (pun intended) because the Benedictines there were mostly Spanish, having come from the mother house in Barcelona. In my dad's time, the tisoys in SBC referred to each other as "Jake" -- a popular way of referring to tisoy boys even up to my time. So, let's set the historical framework in perspective, San Beda was among the original cono boys schools.

Cono was an expression used by the tisoy boys just as "put@n& ina" was used by other Pinoys. And, boy, if you actually knew what a cono was, you'd really hate being called one!

remember the la sallite article posted by ANIMO RED? guess who the author is... the lovely FGT.

to Animo_Ateneo92:

geez, nice going man. now you've upset the nice SAN beda boys. maybe we should try to ease up on the words. i've noticed kasi that in the ateneo (at least in my time), we don't mince words and speak our minds freely, sometimes blurting out things that could be considered offensive. sa totoo, "opinionated" lang talaga tayo. hehehe. all's fine when it's the hard-core ateneans (those from the AGS, AHS, etc. or those who have adapted) you're talking to. matitigas na kasi ang mga balat nyan and we usually just laugh off even below the belt hirits. pero keep in mind that even back then, those who come from other schools almost always do get offended. i'm sure nagkaroon ka na rin ng kaklase noong high school na naging sensitive to the peculiar way ateneans talk to each other. minsan kasi talagang may mga sensitive guys na hindi agad masakyan yung usapan ng mga atenista. because face it, kahit paano, talagang may "kayabangan" tayo makipag-usap, especially with each other. but you eventually find out that it's all just friendly banter. sanayan lang talaga. before you know it, malalakas na rin silang humirit.


anyway, the point is: let's watch our words.

feez.

Something popped up, Coach Ato Badolato is a perfect example of a Bedistang Mestizo/Coño. When i see him in school, he has an over bearing presence, so Spaniard looking.

Mav,
agree with your points. for me, okay naman din kasama San Beda sa UAAP, but from the cold logical counterpoint, hindi. who says that business decisions are based on being kind-hearted? there is no such thing as a freebie in the cold hard world. laging may kapalit.
and yes, pinahirapan din yung DLSU sa pagpasok sa UAAP.
and why wouldn't the UAAP want to accept ADMU then? it was the NCAA which was the premier league. they needed some high profile program into their game. and tho it took years for the Ateneio Seniors to get their game going. DLSU's inclusion helped push the Ateneo-La Salle rivalry into the forefront of UAAP theater. Something the other schools are not exactly fond of.
San Beda would add more fire into the UAAP game and hype. which is why the other schools might not want that.
kahit ano naman sabihin natin, it's all up to the UAAP Board. we've seen them all make a lot of prejudiced decisions against ADMU & DLSU over there years. kahit walang katuturan sige. But then again, who knows .... as i said in another post prior to this, stranger things have happened.

I still see San Beda eventually joining the league in a few years time. If only the people of ABS-CBN (I think there are some out here) can read the posts in this thread they will start thinking on how to convince the UAAP to adopt San Beda. If this happens then maganda din ang Letran kasi may history sila ng La Salle. ABS-CBN got a glimpse of this in last year's Bantay Bata Tournament.

Ok ok I got carried away.
My apologies for being abrasive maybe due to yesterday's game.

But let me point out a few more points without the harsh and direct statements.

When people talk about values (like what calvin flores mentioned) we do not heckle and make derogatory remarks of a rival especially in an arch rival forum like Atenista.net. Sure, Ateneans can do it because it is OUR forum and it is our rivalry. Trying to whack some punches meant to degrade another in a forum not of your own is simply..... (well.... I promised right?)

Secondly, its not the San Beda people who I do not welcome here in our forum but the conduct and how they try to please Ateneans by bashing others. I welcome wholeheartedly their presence and contribution to our forum.

bluewing. Thanks for the constructive statements. I have been taught to speak my mind and exercise tact in issues and comments that do not breach sensible lines. However, I also believe in speaking my mind and putting things into proper perspective regardless of the personal issues. That is what I learned in the Ateneo.

Mav - you are right. Lets put a lid on this issue.

Lastly, San Beda's dilemma was a result of their own conduct. Rumbles between Ateneo and San Beda did not end in the NCAA but even in games that involved the 2 teams in the post NCAA period. Some of them were in the 90s.

The real score behind the UAAP is that the crowd behavior and peace level has slowly deteriorated lately starting from our fracas with UST involving Rich and the cocky Valeriano. This was followed by our successive encounters with La Salle. San Beda's entry would definitely increase the league intensity to new heights.

I have read in the archives on the fateful Ateneo - San Beda championship that had to ensue behind closed doors because simply the crowd was unruly. While the game was halted due to the commotion, San Beda crowd displayed their wares and values by shouting their "basura and basurero" cheer. And this was already the umpteenth time this happened.

The real question is do we want this in the UAAP? Do we want an extension of school roster and run the risk of having rumbles in the end and schools bolting out one after the other? I had the priviledge of talking to Fr. Holscher about the UAAP and San Beda..... but I would rather keep this in the fold for the meantime.

To my fellow Ateneans... I did not mean to offend anyone with my statements.

To all Bedans..... well...... personally, i have nothing against you but I am quite apprehensive about your eventual inclusion in the league. Of course your inclusion is better than NU or Adamson but the UAAP is also running into the risk of its key members bolting out once this race turns out to be Ateneo, La Salle and San Beda in most of the seasons. Its true that the comments about the new league being formed by the University belt is NOT as baseless as it seems. UST has issued statements about recruitment and other schools are not as pleased with the developments.

animo_ateneo92,
thanks for those points of clarification.
matagal na yang application ng Beda sa UAAP. it will probably take a few more years, if ever. but for all the arguements we've posted, there are a few more things that happen behind the scenes.
again, we'll see.
BTW, i was happy that DLSU entered the league. They surely raised the level of competition what with their pool of national athletes (you have to hand that to them). B

^ With all due respect to you sirs, I will try answer this the best way I can again.

"The real score behind the UAAP is that the crowd behavior and peace level has slowly deteriorated lately starting from our fracas with UST involving Rich and the cocky Valeriano. This was followed by our successive encounters with La Salle. San Beda's entry would definitely increase the league intensity to new heights."

A UAAP crowd, even if they say the crowd behavior is deteriorating is way way better than a typical NCAA game. Like what I said in my previous post, San Beda does not engage in brawls and we just find it amusing that a certain player from another school got suspended because he "kicked" the crotch of another player. I don't think this happens in the UAAP in recent times. Actually these small brawls aren't sensationalized because no one pays attention to the NCAA, but what I've noticed this season is that there are a handful of players who got suspended.

If San Beda does engage in brawls then we would have been in the news by now. And it does take a lot of will power in our part to keep our composure inspite surrounded with hooligan schools in the NC. If you look at it, they can really heckle and some are indeed scary, but we do not engage in fist fights, we just diss them back then laugh at it. That's it.

I hope we have cleared everything up, that the San Beda now is no longer the San Beda back in the 70's. I won't passionately love my school if it has a bad image.

don't worry, animo red. even if the application has slowed to a crawl, like i said, things just might change. maraming factors kasi dyan, hindi lang yung na-express so forum so far. maraming behind the scenes movement dyan.
as it is said, when the moment arises, then it will be worth the wait.

by the way, who was the last Red Cub to have moved up to the seniors ranks to give the Red Lions a championship?

We're not really in a rush anyway. We know that San Beda isn't ready yet for now, the only thing we can do is prepare for that day. Though it does feel good to dream.

Our last championship? That was against you guys... hehehe I wouldn't know. But for now, the last Red Cub who grew up to be a Lion, is our King Lion Arjun Cordero, Magnum's batchmate. We haven't won yet, but his leadership is greatly felt. We wouldn't be in the final four if not for him.

animo red, we were hoping to meet up with you sa Team B game ng ADMU against San Beda sa school niyo. maybe next time as all the games are held at Arellano, San Beda and UE anyways.
you'll know us kasi kami yung maiingay dun. and when you see the laban o bawi halftime routine .....

Ah ok. We will try to drop by if i can. Actually I'm looking forward more to the Bantay Bata games against you guys, our schools haven't met in an event this big since 1977. That's why I'm a bit excited.

Yo Red, we'll hand you your ass in the Bantay Bata. You know that right?

(Sorry, still in trashtalk mode after the shit I witnessed for 37 minutes last night.)

Before we even think of the Bantay Bata match, San Beda needs to kick some school ass that's seperating us from the Championships. hehehe

That would probably be Chito Loyzaga, JV Yango, the De Guzman twins, Brill perhaps and whoever else crossed over from the Cubs to the Lions on the 77 team.

BK raised an interesting point about the UAAP Board. With the popularity of the league, there's a greater need to professionalize that body. As things stand now, it's more like an ad hoc committee composed of professors, administrators and academics from the member schools. Imagine having your favorite Math professor suddenly turned sports maven -- he probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a pick-and-roll from an Eskimo roll.

The ad hoc and amateur nature of the UAAP Board can be blamed for the inconsistent and random manner of their decision-making. This would be fine for a pick-up league in the boonies but not for the prime time league that the UAAP has become. Reminds me of how the English ran their FA selection committees to decide the English football teams -- it was fine while the English were kicking everyone's behind but not when the rest of the world got serious about the sport. Time to get a permanent and professional group to run the UAAP. Maybe this can lead to more consistent decisions which will level the playing field.