What do you think of the first-ever Honors Class in Filipino-- 2-M?

Ows? Totoo? DETAILS!!!

Klaseng Pandangal para sa Filipino.

Ito nga ba ito? Nakita ko lang 'tung concept paper nito in-the-works last April. Never heard of any developments about this though.

Please post any information pertaining to this. Salamat.

funny, we never talked about it when i was there last year... i heard rumors, theories, but never any decisions. curious.

Really? How...interesting?

Thus far all of us seem to be simply saying really and asking for details. Is anyone going to provide any? This is just so...erm...fascinating I guess.

Filipino honors. Hrm. That means may tracking na ang Filipino? Yikes!

[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: qwertyu ]

tiga 2M ka no?

hahahahahahahahahaha..

o dili kaya'y isa kang fan..

2m...kakaaliw ang mga yan.galing.
they won the dulang panradyo this year, sweep lahat.

best director si christian baluca
best script by kevin marin.

pugad members yang mga yan! (i'm so proud... )

ung first year classes last year kasi, rine-shuffle to form the current classes ng second year people.if i'm not mistaken, 2A yung honors, 2B parin yung math. 2M yung semi-honors filipino tapos 2N yung semi-honors english. correct me na lang if i'm wrong.

kuwento sakin ng mga teachers ang kakaaliw daw ng 2m - diretsong tagalog makipag-argue

i'm so pleased na ipinagbubunyi na ang mga makata ngayon sa high school!

Galing nun ah.

But i hope those guys who are also proficient in Filipino in spite of being in A, B and N aren't missing out. Di mo naman kasi mapagkakaila na mga sobrang husay na bilingual.

Ye-he-hees naman, si Ven talaga o. Hahahaha. Kung teacher mo siya, please tell him naman that you met a former student of his on the net who said:

"O sir, buhay pa kayo?" He'll understand.

ang lakas naman mag fish nitong thread na to.. heheh lang lang.

PACULAN?!?!?!?!



Astig, hehehe. Sira ulo mga lalabas sa klase na yan, hehe

Original quote:"currently, the class is under mr. paolo paculan (2nd year filipino teacher)"
Just to clarify, Mr. Paolo Ven Paculan, or Ser Pao, is the Filipino teacher of 2-M but not their moderator. Ser Pao is moderating and teaching Filipino in 2-A. Mr.Buboy Marcelo is the moderator and Math teacher of 2-M. Also, 2-A, B and M have the same Filipino teacher so the A and B dont miss out on anything.

What do I think of the 2m class?

Well they do have many achievements na...

but also they do have a notorious reputation in second year for being...well, ask any 2nd year student and they'll tell you... :confused:

that would be a waste of time..
instead, just use this thread to share what you know about them..
don't you think?

come on now. don't be shy.

well, im not from 2m but i knw some people in 2-m nd im jus quite fascinated wd der class...

To: hskid :mad:

I highly disagree with what you've posted last December 04, 2002 at 09:28 PM! Well, 2-M is a well-rounded class, unique and very diversed. Their chemistry is perfect not like the other classes I've seen. And regarding their reputation as...[hs kid, you know what is it, and what you think about the class is that]...well, no class can ever avoid some students who have a feminine touch in their personality as a person. Anyway, all have their own feminine touches, whether you're a male or a female. Well, I just think that you(hs kid)'re so shallow about bringing up this matter... If you're a student, you're just jealous of the said class in putting up this message; if you're a teacher, be ashamed of yourself, you're being so silly and insubstantial! Whatever people say against the 2-M Filipino Honors Class aren't true. For sure, having the gift of intellegence and true understanding, the students of 2-M will not let themselves be affected by the negative criticisms people blurt out antagonistic to them. I firmly believe that they will just take in the positive comments and remarks given to them by their teachers, fellow students and other people who know how to appreciate and consider...

To bluemoon:
Anyways, what's wrong if the class excels academically and physically, particularly in volleyball? Is it wrong to contribute some banners for their class? I mean, they've already got 2 champion banners for volleyball for their class. I think, bluemoon, that there's totally nothing wrong about that? Well, another jealous person/student from the AHS...tsk³! You better organize with your class ASAP in order to attain and follow the line of achievements being enjoyed by the 2-M boys! LoL!

"Truly, envy leads to evil..."

(revised)

To: hskid :mad:

I highly disagree with what you've posted last December 04, 2002 at 09:28 PM! Well, 2-M is a well-rounded class, unique and very diversed. Their chemistry is perfect not like the other classes I've seen. And regarding their reputation as...[hs kid, you know what it is, and what you think about the class is that]...well, no class can ever avoid some students who have a feminine touch in their personality as a person. Anyway, all have their own feminine touches, whether you're a male or a female. Well, I just think that you(hs kid)'re so shallow about bringing up this matter... If you're a student, you're just jealous of the said class in putting up this message; if you're a teacher, be ashamed of yourself, you're being so silly and insubstantial! Whatever people say against the 2-M Filipino Honors Class aren't true. For sure, having the gift of intellegence and true understanding, the students of 2-M will not let themselves be affected by the negative criticisms people blurt out antagonistic to them. I firmly believe that they will just take in the positive comments and remarks given to them by their teachers, fellow students and other people who know how to appreciate and consider...

To bluemoon:
Anyways, what's wrong if the class excels academically and physically, particularly in volleyball? Is it wrong to contribute some banners for their class? I mean, they've already got 2 champion banners for volleyball for their class. I think, bluemoon, that there's totally nothing wrong about that. Well, you are just another jealous person/student from the AHS...tsk³! HAHA! You better organize with your class ASAP in order to attain and follow the line of achievements being enjoyed by the 2-M boys! LoL!

"Truly, envy leads to evil..."

maingay ang 2M

madalas maglaro ng volleyball sa harap ni rizal!

mahusay yung radio play nila! impressive!

Ahaha...2-M is still under probation if it will be approved by the Filipino Department as a formal Honors/Semi-Honors class in the High School. Well, according to a woman teacher, 2-M (batch 2005) has a big, big chance or possibility of being accepted because they have proved themselves academically, physically...and that, most importantly, they please their teachers.
So, good luck to 2-M batch 2005 - PIONEERS -Sana magtuloy-tuloy na 'yan sa mga susunod pang batches.

blue-moon's not from ahs coz she's from stc. she's just criticizing 2-m coz her bro's from 2-m. you know how siblings are...

[ December 05, 2002: Message edited by: [sais] ]

Ohh..geeez! thanx for the clarification... but, i guess that she doesn't have the right to brand them as such...

oo nga.

well, that's her problem

wla

i just spoke with former fellow faculty last night about this. yes, there will be a Semi-Honors Filipino class, but there has been no official announcement as to whom the pioneer class will be. and from what i'm told, the particulars of the curriculum are still being worked out. most certainly, it won't be implemented this SY; i don't know if their target for implementation is next SY or the SY after that.

not to say that 2M is undeserving; given the statements all around i'm sure they would very well fit the role of SemiFil Pioneers. but based on experience, it is more likely that they will start the formal SemiFil class from among the 2nd year classes, at the time the program is fully implemented. (this assumes that they're following the "no honors section" strategy in 1st year.) that way kasi they get to shuffle in the students whom they think can comprise a good Semi-Fil class, rather than work on one that is already "gelled together," so to speak.

Isn't it bad thing to have too many "honors/semi-honors" sections? Kasi pag ganoon, kita mo talaga yung sino yung alam mong may utak sa wala. Kahit ba sabihin mong "sa Filipino lang", or "sa Math" lang magaling yung isang klase, na-eemphasize sa ibang klase na "ah itong section na ito hindi honors sa kahit ano." And sometimes it's unavoidable for people to generalize. Plus, baka isipin pa nung mga purely-regular classes na olats sila. I'm not saying that they will, but you know how insecure teenagers are sometimes.

No honors section in first year? Haaay, kawawa naman si Mr. Pagsi kung ganon.

Saka forever na ba yung "reshuffling" ng freshmen? As in every year? Hindi naman lahat ng batch may mga grabeng issues para i-reshuffle.

raggster,

Alinsunod sa isang taong malapit sa akin, isang kaklase, isa ka raw guro dati sa Mataas na Paaralan ng Ateneo de Manila. Nandirito ka raw sa AHS nuong nakaraang taon, nguni't ngayon ay wala na. Kaya nga kami nagtataka kung bakit anlakas ng loob ninyong maglahad ng inyong opinyong (na wala namang kapararakan) ukol sa bagong Klaseng Pandangal sa Filipino - ang 2-M batch 2005. Napakalakas naman ata ng inyong apog upang bigyan ng mga punang hindi naman kayo gano'n kasigurado kung yun nga. Isa pa'y pakiusap lamang po'y itago na lamang ang inyong kagustuhang mangyari sapagka't hindi naman po kayo sa Ginoong Ron Capinding na siyang nagdedesisyon ng lahat para sa Klaseng Pandangal. Kaya wala kayong karapatang magbitaw ng hinaing nang basta-basta. Basta ang alam ng 2-M batch 2005 na sila na ang PIONEERS dahil napatunayan na nila ito hindi lamang sa PALIG nguni't maging sa kabuuan ng kanilang abilidad mapa-isports o mapa-akademika. Malaki rin ang pag-asang ma-aprubahan ang 2-M batch 2005 na maging PIONEERS bunga na rin ng mismong klase, napaka-maabilidad, matatalino, at higit sa lahat, masayahin at ISA kumbaga, UNITED sa Ingles.
Basta ang masasabi lang namin sa inyo'y hindi tama ang nakalap ninyong impormasyon sa kaninuman... Mayroon nang Klaseng Pandanggal sa asignaturang Filipino at ito'y sumusunod sa panutong Pandangal. Mas mahirap ang inaaral at ang ginagawa ng 2-M sa kanilang Klase sa FILIPINO. Idagdag pa, hindi kami umaasang kami ang magiging PIONEERS ng Klaseng Pandangal sapagka't alam na naming kami na nga ang magiging kaunaunahang KLASENG PANDANGAL SA FILIPINO, alinsunod sa aming guro sa Filipino.
At kung sino pa ang nagbabalak tumutol sa Klaseng Pandangal, ay 'wag n'yo nang balakin pa dahil wala na rin kayong magagawa kasi wala kayong magagawa; 'di n'yo na mapipigilan angpagtutuloy nito, na siyang gustong pagtagumpayan ng Kagawaran ng Filipino. Maligayang Pasko sa inyong lahat!

Whoa. Mas mabagal talaga ako magbasa ng Filipino kesa English.

This is turning out to be another one of those fish-and-praise threads. Oh well.

To those involved in that little scuffle, particularly with an "I talked to so and so" sense, please... NAME the contact you spoke with. That should settle things.

I've yet to talk to Ron Capinding about this. But anyway, here's my two cents on the matter:

In order to determine an "honors" or "semi-honors" class, the Ateneo must be able to devise a rigorous screening process. The "honors" class will no doubt be those that get high in the entrance test and in their elementary academics. Semi-honors classes are those who ought to be in the honors section, but did not meet the cut or were placed in another section for other reasons.

How, then, to select a Semi-Honors class? For Math and English, it's quite easy-- use the entrance test. As for the Filipino semi-honors class, you have to resort to a diagnostic test or some other screening process (I would highly encourage oral examination). Quite surprisingly, the Atenean is quite horrible when it comes to Filipino (almost quite as bad as he is in English), too caught up in an in-between state of using English and Filipino. Therefore, the objective of the semi-honors Filipino class is to take those that already show talent in this subject.

Now, you CANNOT just take a section, screen it, and then declare it THE semi-honors class in Filipino. To do so would be to discount the fact that Filipino is a language subject that demands a special level of talent, especially for a semi-honors class. Students can suffer if subjected to a rigorous subject that isn't really their forte. And no, there can be no class with everyone who has Filipino as his forte. Not with the kind of system that the high school has.

I think that the best bet is to have the Semi-honors Filipino class as a pull-out block section, which will last from 2nd to 4th year. That way, proper screening can be done for all sections in the batch.

[ December 24, 2002: Message edited by: qwertyu ]

RAGGSTER AND TESSERACT: CAN YOU LIKE PLEASE READ THE MESSAGE BELOW. 2-M IS NOT ASSUMING THAT THEY ARE THE HONORS FILIPINO CLASS BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE THE HONORS CLASS.. THEY WERENT JUST APPINTED OR CHOSEN TO BE PART OF THE CLASS, THEY UNDERWENT SERIES OF TEST AND DELIBERATIONS TO GET THERE. CAN YOU JUST LIKE PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT ALL YOUR INFOS ARE ACCURATE BEFORE POSTING..

well, there is already one.. they started implementing it this year (2-M).. at the end of skul year 2001-2002, they took 80 students who are proficient in filipino from the 1st year regular classes.. these students were those who were excelling in filipino nd were recommended by their filipino teachers to be a part of the said honors class.. these students took a test nd went under intensive deliberations.. the 80 was then narrowed down to 50, then to 42, thus, 2-M was born..
primarily, the said honors class is to be a class which promotes the filipino language, literatue nd culture.. these students are to master the said matter nd promulgate it schoolwide to inculcate in students the love for filipino..

currently, the class is under mr. paolo paculan (2nd year filipino teacher) wd d direct supervision of mr. bernie santos.. the filipino department hopes that this endeavour of creating such a class would be a sucess..

as of date, the following are the accomplishments of the class:
>first place-biglaang pagtatalumpati-individual contest-linggo ng wika
>first place, dulang panradyo, palig.. (SINAG MG ARAW, ANINO NG BUWAN)
>together wd d first place accomplishment, the class swept all the awards for the play. namely:
>best script
>best music
>best SFX
>best director
>best actor
*also, the class won 1st place for volleyball in both the year level family sportsfest nd 2nd year sporstfest.. also, 3rd place 4 cheering n d family sportsfest..

well, lets just hope for the best this class...

Ah. Would you care to clarify "tests and deliberations?"

I know Bernie Santos personally. I'll also ask him about it.

And qwertyu, before you even muster the gall to tell me to recheck my info, please try and UNDERSTAND what I've posted first. Nowhere in my post did I presume and assert that I did have any info. I simply gave my opinion based on what's been posted in this thread so far. And did I ever accuse 2-M of "assuming," as you so put it? Why are you so touchy on this subject?

And for the love of God, can you, like, quit trying to act pa-conyo you know? It's so... kaka-inis eh. Guh-rabeh. Nyeta.

tesseract: i addressed the message to you and RAGGSTER! duh! can u just like read the whole message first before reacting.. nd, hell do u care if i speak dis way?

Precisely. To raggster and to ME. So unless you want to pick little tussles, I suggest you learn how to address your posts properly. Basic high school communication.

Do I care? Yes. Quite philantrophic on my part.

Lintek. Mag-Tagalog ka na nga lang.

hahahahahaha..

taena..

bago kasi iclick ang "add reply" sa message na nakikipagtalo sa iba, tignan muna lahat ng pwedeng magpahiya sayo..

ang yabang sobra...

Maaari bang humihahon kayo't huwag nang pag-awayan ng masyado ang isyu ukol sa 2-M. Napakababaw naman kasi ng kalalabasan nito kung gayon. Ang gusto lamang kasi naming ipahiwatig na mayroon nang Klaseng Pandangal para sa asignaturang Filipino. Ngayon taon ito nasimulan kaya't masasabi naming kami, ang 2-M batch 2005, ang PIONEERS ng nasabing Klaseng Pandangal.

Nasa ilalim pa rin kami ng isang probisyon ngayong taon at isasaalang-alang dito ang aming ipinamalas na kagalingan sa asignaturang Filipino sa loob ng SY 2002-2003 upang maaprubahan o hindi man ng Departamento. Kung kami'y naaprubahan ngayong taon (2003), itutuloy-tuloy na ang programang Pandangal sa mga susunod na henerasyon ng Klaseng Pandangal sa Filipino. At kung hindi nama'y, hindi na itutuloy ang programa't gagawin na lamang regulár ang dating Klaseng pandangal sa asignartuang Filipino.

Maraming salamat sa pag-unawa niyo, sana'y magsilibing kaliwanagan ang aking ipinosteng mensahe sa lahat ng nagugulumihanan ukol sa bagong-silang na Klaseng Pandangal sa asignaturang Filipino. Maligayang Pasko't Manigong Bagong Taon!

S'ya nga pala, bago ko makalimutan, pinasasalamatan ng buong 2-M ang suportang ibinibigay ni qwertyu sa aming klase... Maraming salamat, nawa'y pagpalain ka ng Diyos sa kabaitang ipinamamalas mo para sa amin...

grabe kayong managalog...todo na 'to!

Wala pa ring nagbibigay ng hinihingi kong impormasyon hinggil sa pagsasala at paninimbang na ginawa para sa 2-M, kung sila nga ang "pioneers" gaya ng inilalahad nitong mga mag-aaral na ito.

[ December 25, 2002: Message edited by: tesseract ]

tesseract,

Paki basa na lamang po ang ipinosteng mensahe ni qwertyu noong ika-dalamawpu't apat ng Disyembre. Nakasaad lahat doon kung bakit kami napadpad sa 2-M ngayon. Nandoon na nakalahad ang lahat ng kailangan niyong malaman. Ewan na lang po namin kung hindi niyo pa maintindihan yo'n. Napakaliwanag ng pagka-eksplika ni qwertyu kaya hindi na namin kayo inaasahang magtanong muli kung paano kami napunta sa 2-M. Maraming salamat. Maligayang Pasko'y Manigong Bagong taon sa iyo.

Maraming Salamat eXec+90!

chavigny: hehe la lang. nakakatuwa naman kasi ang tindi ninyong managalog! sobra akong humahanga sa inyo, as in! kinukuwento nga ni sir bernz sa akin na pag nag-aaway kayo higit pa kayo kay balagtas kung magsagutan...

well, congrats 2-M! sana patuloy niyong itaguyod ang kagalingan ng wikang pambansa at nawa'y maipamalas niyo sa buong komunidad ng Mataas na Paaralan ng Ateneo de Manila ang kagandahan ng wikang Filipino sa pamamagitan ng pagiging pambihirang ehemplo sa ibang mga mag-aaral.

mag-iingat palagi!

Marami pong salamat sa mga papuri niyo. Hindi po namin akalaing may mga taong namamangha sa amin katulad n'yo... Hayaan n'yo po, patuloy po naming itataguyod ang wikang Filipino hindi lamang sa Mataas na Paaralan kundi pati na rin sa labas ng paaralan. Sana'y magsilbing patunay ang aming kagalingan sa Pamimilipino upang maniwala ang mga taong patuloy na nagugulumihanan ukol sa paksang ito - Ang Klaseng Pandangal para sa asignaturang Filipino.
Paalala lamang, ayaw naming itaas ang aming sarili, sinasabi lamang namin ang buong katotohanan, ang aming mga nalalaman, bilang panangga sa mga mensaheng wala namang kapararakan. Masasabi n'yong anlakas ng loob naming magsalita at ipaglaban ang 2-M batch 2005, ang unang Klaseng Pandangal sa Filipino, sapagka't kami ang klaseng nakaluklok ngayon, na siyang ring mas higit na nakaaalam sa mga nangyayari... Maraming salamat muli sa pang-unawa...

Or huwag ka na lang makipag-away sa Internet.

Hinihingi ko ang tiyak na proseso. Kumbaga sa Ingles, I want the specific process.

Alam ninyo iyan, diba? Magaling kayo sa wika. Ngayon, sa pagpapalinaw naman ng ideya.

tesseract, tulad nga ng aking nasabi noong nakaraan, hindi biro ang prosesong pinagdaanan ng bawat indibidwal sa 2-M upang maluklok sa kung saanmang pedestal sila naroroon ngayon. kung nais mong palawigin ko pa ang aking nailathala dati rito, sige..

nabanggit ko no'n na ang bawat kasapi ng 2-M ay dumaan sa mabigat na proseso ng pagpili noong sila'y nasa unang taon pa lamang. bago matapos ang taong pampaaralan 2001-2002, ika-8 ng Marso, 2002 upang maging payak, ang kagawaran ng Filipino ay nagpamahagi ng liham sa higit kumulang 100 mag-aaral mula sa mga klase sa unang taon. sa liham na ito, nakasaad na kaugnay ng malawakang pag-aayos ng mga mag-aaral sa unang taon tungo sa mga klase sa ikalawang taon (reshuffling, sa ingles..) ay minabuti ng kagawaran ng Filipino na isabay ang paglulunsad ng pangkat para sa Programang Pandangal sa Filipino (Filipino Honors Class). Ang klaseng ito ay bubuuin ng mga mag-aaral na nakahihigit ang kahiyangan at katatasan sa Filipino kaysa sa ibang mga mag-aaral, at may naangkop na pag-uugali at pag-iisip para sa higit na nakahahamong pangangailangan ng programang ito. dahil sa asal at kakayahang ipinamalas sa asignaturang Filipino ng mga estudyanteng nabigyan ng liham na ito, na makikita sa kanilang mga marka at buong pagsang-ayon ng kanilang mga guro sa Filipino, sila ay ipinagkakapuring mapabilang sa mga kandidato para sa nasabing klase. ang grupo ng mga mag-aaral na ito ay kumuha ng isang pagsusulit noong ganap na alas-9:45, miyerkules, ika-13 ng Marso, 2002 sa silid aklatan ng paaralan. matapos ng pagsusulit nito ay lubos na pagtatasa ang naganap upang piliin ang siyang mapapabilang sa nasabing klase. kung nais mo pang paliwigin ko ang naganap na pagtatasa, ang bawat kandidato ay masusing pinag-aralan ng kagawaran na kabilang ang mga guro sa filipino. ang bawat isa ay tinasa sa pamamagitan ng kanilang ipinamalas na kagalingang pang-akademiko, asal at pag-uugali, maging ang resulta ng pagsusulit na kanilang kinuha. ang listahan ay binabaan sa 80, na naging 50 hanggang sa maging 42, ang siyang kabuuan ng bilang ng mga mag-aaral sa 2-M ngayon.

tesseract, naandyan na lhat ng kailangan mong malaman. kung ika'y nagugulumihanan pa rin at 'di mapakali, hindi ko na alam sa'yo. nasasa-iyo na ang problema n'yan. ang tanging nais lamang ng 2-M ay ipaliwanag lamang at ipahayag na tunay ngang mayroong klaseng pandangal sa Filipino at ito ang
2-M. hindi layon ng klase na magyabang o purihin sa anumang paraan. ang tanging nais na pangkat ay maliwanagan ang bawat isipan ng mga taong pilit pa rin binabatikos ang nasabing pangkat. mula dito ay nais ko ng wakasan itong aking mensahe. maligayang pasko sa iyo at nawa'y maging masagana ang taong darating para sa iyo.

*nais ko lamang liwanagin na ako'y hindi kabilang sa nasabing klase bagkus ay isang indibidwal na syang naniniwala sa mga layon ng nasabing klase.